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26/11: Nawaz Sharif told U.S. Senators that claim call to Indian TV channel was the clincher

While some influential Pakistanis believed that “south Indian” men had carried out the Mumbai attacks and lashed out at India for blaming Pakistan, former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif seemed to have no doubts right at the beginning that the attackers were Pakistani.
A cable (181951: confidential) sent by Acting Principal Officer Clinton Taylor of the U.S. Consulate in Lahore on December 9, 2008, describes how the Pakistan Muslim League (N) leader told a visiting delegation of U.S. Senators John McCain and Lindsay Graham that he had listened to the phone call made by one of the attackers to an Indian TV channel, and even though the individual claimed he was Indian, he had heard a Pakistani accent.
At that December 6 meeting, Mr. Sharif showed none of the ambivalence about the origin of the attackers that he later resorted to in keeping with the mood of denial in Pakistan.

“The people involved were from this country — I am convinced,” Mr. Sharif is quoted as saying. “We must take strictest action against those elements.” Once India produced concrete evidence, “we should proceed whole hog,” he declared.

In doing so, Mr. Sharif was perhaps also trying to clear the U.S. perception of him as a politician with links to Islamists, and therefore not a trustworthy partner in the “war on terror.”

The road to Islamabad goes through Washington, the saying goes in Pakistan. The former Prime Minister seems to have been only too aware that to secure his prospects as a future leader of the country, he needs to keep on the right side of the U.S.

He told the senators that his party had acted responsibly with the ruling Pakistan People's Party (PPP) to fight terrorism.

He recounted that former President Pervez Musharraf had exiled both him and PPP leader Benazir Bhutto, and he was “amazed when President Bush provided his support for a dictator.”

Mr. Sharif recounted that during his stints as Prime Minister he had offered Pakistan's support for the Gulf War and discussed in great detail with U.S. President Bill Clinton how to deal with extremist forces in Afghanistan. “Who could be more committed to fight against terrorism?”

He recalled his part in signing the Lahore Declaration with Indian Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee. On the other hand, General Musharraf had launched the Kargil operation, which Mr. Sharif described as “the biggest blunder he committed.”

His party had refrained from using India to score political points, he said, adding that the PML(N) had strongly condemned the Mumbai attacks, and if there was evidence to prove Pakistani links, “we must take action.”

The people responsible for Mumbai, Mr. Sharif said, “are also operating in Pakistan — we face those forces here.” He mentioned the assassination of Benazir Bhutto the year before, his own narrow escape from bullets fired at his election rally on the same day as her killing, the Marriott bombing in September 2008, and a ghastly bombing in Peshawar a day before his meeting with the senators.

Mr. Sharif underlined his commitment to help the government “eradicate this menace.”

However, some members of his party did not share the same views.

Bryan Hunt, principal officer at the U.S. Consulate, in a cable sent on December 3, 2008 (181158: confidential), detailed a conversation with Ali Haroon Shah, PML(N) member and a former legislator in the provincial assembly, who said Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has started a “blame game” before any evidence appeared. He said India had many insurgent groups, any of which could have carried out the attack.

Mr. Hunt wrote that he had met Lahore High Court Judge Bilal Khan. The judge welcomed the December 1 statement from the White House saying the U.S. had found no evidence to indicate that the Pakistan government had planned the attacks. The judge took this as absolving “all Pakistanis of responsibility,” Mr. Hunt wrote.

The diplomat clarified to the judge that while there was no indication that the Pakistan government had a hand in the attacks, groups operating in Pakistan, specifically in Punjab, were the most likely culprits.

A senior Lahore lawyer who was present at the meeting told him that from the photographs, the attackers “looked south Indian.”

With some foresight, Mr. Hunt commented that “the innocence felt by most Punjabis will make it difficult to crack down on Pakistani perpetrators.”
(This article is a part of the series "The India Cables" based on the US diplomatic cables accessed by The Hindu via Wikileaks.)
The Hindu : News / The India Cables : ‘No doubt that attackers were Pakistani’
 
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Finally.........affirmation. I wonder what sharif feels like now.
 
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nawaz sharif sits in his fkup fort how did he come to know they were Pakistanis unless he sent them on a special visit to hindustan. So how is it affirmation when the Govt in charge is suppose to investigate and know more details as nawaz sharif is not directly taking charge of investigations nor is he invited. It is as if an indian in the cricket stadium predicts in kamran akmal will bowl out dhoni lol, now I'll remind you go watch 2 stupid dogs cartoon : )
 
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I hear it's getting close to an election year.. ;)
 
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Oh boy still stuck on Mumbai incident a very tragic incident I condemn that but it's time to move forward let's make peace not war let's not plan to destroy eachother let's Try to build eachother

'you' said same after Kargil and see what you have done. you will do it again.
sorry, we can't trust you anymore.
 
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Oh boy still stuck on Mumbai incident a very tragic incident I condemn that but it's time to move forward let's make peace not war let's not plan to destroy eachother let's Try to build eachother

How can we make peace when you continue your 'immoral' support to the Kashmiri insurgents?
 
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sorry I reposted the thread. Here is my response in other thread.

I was reading the archived thread about Mumbai attack, and quite amusingly I found out many top brasses of the forum were putting forth same argument, that those guys look like South Indian(with photographic proof of how Punjabis, Baluchs, Pathans, Sindhis look different than Kasab!). :/

Seems Pakistani establishment believed in same canard! :

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...-were-pakistani-nawaz-sharif.html#post1599871
 
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I hear it's getting close to an election year.. ;)

Yeah, but how could he win with these rantings? Here's the thing and I don't think he's trying to appease Pakistani populace but we know Nawaz has too much of a financial business with India i.e. Cement, Steel etc and he's only trying to save his business by taking a side. He knows he can't win the coming election - they are doomed, and therefore trying to float in a safe boat for the future endeavors, if they were to take in Pakistan.

He did admitt this back in 2008 so why is he keep saying it again and again.
http://www.defence.pk/forums/curren...991-former-pak-pm-admits-kasab-pakistani.html
 
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I was reading the archived thread about Mumbai attack, and quite amusingly I found out many top brasses of the forum were putting forth same argument, that those guys look like South Indian(with photographic proof of how Punjabis, Baluchs, Pathans, Sindhis look different than Kasab!). :/

Seems Pakistani establishment believed in same canard

very sad state of affairs when you have different people coming out with different logics. for some it's the looks, some it's the accent & for some it's the colour. it's just shows how desperate people can get & go to any length to mislead their own public & rest of the world!!
 
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Why is this being treated by Indians as if something is new? I believe the Pak Government officially concluded after a deep thorough investigation that Kasab is a Pakistani, then what new revelation is Sharif bringing here?
 
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Nice.
We are gonna fight on years old tragic incident?

I still am not gonna agree that they were Pakistani,
but to look from the angle, Zardari said they were Bharti, N.Sharif said they were Pakistani.
Anything fishy?

Does he want to get Bharti fans?
 
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Why is this being treated by Indians as if something is new? I believe the Pak Government officially concluded after a deep thorough investigation that Kasab is a Pakistani, then what new revelation is Sharif bringing here?

But according to your former prime minster and current leader of the opposition, so are the rest of the attackers..this is new.
 
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But according to your former prime minster and current leader of the opposition, so are the rest of the attackers..this is new.

He is deeply unpopular man in Pakistan, one of the leading conspirators in Raymond's release, don't think that his words would mean the rest of the nation falls in line. Personally I didn't doubt that either, but since its Nawaz who is saying it, now I have my doubts :D.
 
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