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Read central, cenral is typo in title

This is a thread specially made for trolls who love these topics:

1. Horse riding mounted nomadic warriors of Central Asia conquered India but when it came to present day Bengal, they were stopped in their tracks at the borders of Bengal by an invisible barrier created by Labong the great Hindu galactic empires Fort William based demigod, that extended back this barrier in time back to the year 1200 AD. So they bumped into this invisible pure energy barrier in frustration and turned back. But somehow magically the lowly Bengalis, Adivasi's, Shudra's and untouchable's dalit's out of spite for Brahman, kShatriya and Vaishya Hindu's became Muslim just to bother these noble Dharmic souls.

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2. Timur Lang had no connection to Mongols
800px-Amir_Timur_in_Samarkand.JPG

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Now please troll away here in this thread on these issues and please leave other threads alone. Thank you.
 
Read central, cenral is typo in title

This is a thread specially made for trolls who love these topics:

1. Horse riding mounted nomadic warriors of Central Asia conquered India but when it came to present day Bengal, they were stopped in their tracks at the borders of Bengal by an invisible barrier created by Labong the great Hindu galactic empires Fort William based demigod, that extended back this barrier in time back to the year 1200 AD. So they bumped into this invisible pure energy barrier in frustration and turned back. But somehow magically the lowly Bengalis, Adivasi's, Shudra's and untouchable's dalit's out of spite for Brahman, kShatriya and Vaishya Hindu's became Muslim just to bother these noble Dharmic souls.

287084871.jpg

mongol+warrior.jpg

l.jpg

Turkish_Steppe_Warrior_by_Khagan.jpg


2. Timur Lang had no connection to Mongols
800px-Amir_Timur_in_Samarkand.JPG

418px-Timur_reconstruction01.jpg

180px-Amir_TemurZoomed.jpg

timur2.jpg



Now please troll away here in this thread on these issues and please leave other threads alone. Thank you.

Very Funny !!!!
 
they were stopped in their tracks at the borders of Bengal by an invisible barrier created by Labong the great Hindu galactic empires

Ok my fault, I accept, Bangladeshis are mongolic(not Mangolic which demands to you to be married with trees) in origin. But according to Akmal chacha 80% of Syllet is Turk, 70% of Barishal is Persian and 75% of Noyakhali is Arab. So I'm pretty confused. :|

I ask Bangladeshis to present a district wise break up of their country of origin in below format :

Syllet - 80% Turk, 5% Persian, 15% Pathan
Barishal - 70% Persian, 20% Pathan, 10% Mongol

and so on ...

Thank you
 
On a serious note:
The Rise of Islam and the Bengal Frontier, 1204

Sometime in 1243–44, residents of Lakhnauti, a city in northwestern Bengal, told a visiting historian of the dramatic events that had taken place there forty years earlier. At that time, the visitor was informed, a band of several hundred Turkish cavalry had ridden swiftly down the Gangetic Plain in the direction of the Bengal delta. Led by a daring officer named Muhammad Bakhtiyar, the men overran venerable Buddhist monasteries in neighboring Bihar before turning their attention to the northwestern portion of the delta, then ruled by a mild and generous Hindu monarch. Disguising themselves as horse dealers, Bakhtiyar and his men slipped into the royal city of Nudiya. Once inside, they rode straight to the king’s palace, where they confronted the guards with brandished weapons. Utterly overwhelmed, for he had just sat down to dine, the Hindu monarch hastily departed through a back door and fled with many of his retainers to the forested hinterland of eastern Bengal, abandoning his kingdom altogether.[1]
This coup d’état inaugurated an era, lasting over five centuries, during which most of Bengal was dominated by rulers professing the Islamic faith. In itself this was not exceptional, since from about this time until the eighteenth century, Muslim sovereigns ruled over most of the Indian subcontinent. What was exceptional, however, was that among India’s interior provinces only in Bengal—a region approximately the size of England and Scotland combined—did a majority of the indigenous population adopt the religion of the ruling class, Islam. This outcome proved to be as fateful as it is striking, for in 1947 British India was divided into two independent states, India and Pakistan, on the basis of the distribution of Muslims. In Bengal, those areas with a Muslim majority would form the eastern wing of Pakistan—since 1971, Bangladesh—whereas those parts of the province with a Muslim minority became the state of West Bengal within the Republic of India. In 1984 about 93 million of the 152 million Bengalis in Bangladesh and West Bengal were Muslims, and of the estimated 96.5 million people inhabiting Bangladesh, 81 million, or 83 percent, were Muslims; in fact, Bengalis today comprise the second largest Muslim ethnic population in the world, after the Arabs.[2]
How can one explain this development? More particularly, why did such a large Muslim population emerge in Bengal—so distant from the Middle East, from which Islam historically expanded—and not in other regions of India? And within Bengal, why did Islamization occur at so much greater a rate in the east than in the west? Who converted and why? At what time? What, if anything, did “conversion” mean to contemporary Bengalis? And finally, between the thirteenth and eighteenth centuries, in what ways did different generations and different social classes of Muslims in Bengal understand, construe, or even construct, Islamic civilization? In seeking answers to these questions, this study explores processes embedded in the delta’s premodern history that may cast light on the evolution of Bengal’s extraordinary cultural geography.
Bengal’s historical experience was extraordinary not only in its widespread reception of Islam but also in its frontier character. In part, the thirteenth-century Turkish drive eastward—both to Bengal and within Bengal—was the end product of a process triggered by political convulsions in thirteenth-century Inner Asia. For several centuries before and after the Mongol irruption into West Asia, newly Islamicized Turks from Central Asia and the Iranian Plateau provided a ready supply of soldiers, both as slaves and as free men, for commanders such as Muhammad Bakhtiyar. Once within Bengal’s fertile delta, these men pushed on until stopped only by geographical barriers. Surrounded on the north and east by mountains, and to the south by the sea, Bengal was the terminus of a continentwide process of Turko-Mongol conquest and migration. It was, in short, a frontier zone.
In reality, Bengal in our period possessed not one but several frontiers, each moving generally from west to east. One of these was the political frontier, which defined the territories within which the Turks and their successors, the Bengal sultans and governors of the Mughal Empire, minted coins, garrisoned troops, and collected revenue. A second, the agrarian frontier, divided settled agricultural communities from the forest, Bengal’s natural state before humans attacked it with ax and plow. A third was the Islamic frontier, which divided Muslim from non-Muslim communities. A porous phenomenon, as much mental as territorial in nature, this last was the frontier that proved so fateful in 1947. Finally, all three frontiers were superimposed on a much older one, a frontier defined by the long-term eastward march of Sanskritic civilization in the Bengal delta. Characterized either by an egalitarian agrarian society organized around Buddhist monastic institutions or by a hierarchically ordered agrarian society presided over by Brahman priests, Sanskritic civilization in both its Buddhist and its Brahmanic forms had moved down the Gangetic Plain and into the Bengal delta many centuries before Muhammad Bakhtiyar’s coup of 1204.
After the establishment of Muslim power in Bengal, the political frontier was extended as the new rulers and their successors overpowered or won over centers of entrenched agrarian interests. As aliens occupying the country by force of arms, Muslim soldiers and administrators were generally concentrated in garrison settlements located in or near pre-conquest urban centers. This was natural in those parts of the delta where the conquerors encountered developed agrarian communities, for by controlling the cities they could control the agriculturally rich hinterland, linked to cities by markets and revenue-paying networks. The Turkish occupation of Bengal thus followed the settlement pattern found throughout the early Delhi sultanate, anticipating in this respect the cantonment city employed by the British in their occupation of India in the nineteenth century.

Timur - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Timur was born in Transoxiana, in the City of Kesh (an area now better known as Shahrisabz, "the green city"), some 50 miles south of Samarkand in modern Uzbekistan, then part of the Chagatai Khanate. His father, Taraqai, was a small-scale landowner and belonged to the Barlas tribe. The Barlas was a Turko-Mongol tribe[19] which was originally a Mongol tribe[20] and was Turkified[21] and/or became Turkic-speaking[22] or intermingling with the Turkic peoples.[23] According to Gérard Chaliand, Timur was a Muslim Turk[24] but he saw himself as Genghis Khan's heir.[24] Though not a Chinggisid,[25] he clearly sought to evoke the legacy of Genghis Khan's conquests during his lifetime.[26]
Timur was a Muslim, but while his chief official religious counsellor and advisor was the Hanafite scholar 'Abdu 'l-Jabbar Khwarazmi, his particular persuasion is not known. In Tirmidh, he had come under the influence of his spiritual mentor Sayyid Barakah, a Shiite leader from Balkh who is buried alongside Timur in Gur-e Amir.[27][28][29] Despite his Hanafi background, Timur was known to hold Ali and the Shia Imams in high regard and has been noted by various scholars for his "pro-Alid" stance. Despite this, Timur was noted for attacking Shi’is on Sunni grounds and therefore his own religious inclinations remain unclear[30].
Timur is also known to have devout Muslim inclinations regarding his personal life and according to his followers he restricted himself to only four wives, while most Mongol rulers during that period did not. According to his famous descendant Babur, Timur is known to have kept fine copies of both the Quran and the Yassa (a Mongol code of honor introduced by Genghis Khan).

Yassa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Ok my fault, I accept, Bangladeshis are mongolic(not Mangolic which demands to you to be married with trees) in origin. But according to Akmal chacha 80% of Syllet is Turk, 70% of Barishal is Persian and 75% of Noyakhali is Arab. So I'm pretty confused. :|

I ask Bangladeshis to present a district wise break up of their country of origin in below format :

Syllet - 80% Turk, 5% Persian, 15% Pathan
Barishal - 70% Persian, 20% Pathan, 10% Mongol

and so on ...

Thank you

LOL time to rename Bangladesh to ArabDesh or PathanDesh :rofl:
 
Again, who the hell is Timur? I've never heard of that guy :blink:

Ok my fault, I accept, Bangladeshis are mongolic(not Mangolic which demands to you to be married with trees) in origin. But according to Akmal chacha 80% of Syllet is Turk, 70% of Barishal is Persian and 75% of Noyakhali is Arab. So I'm pretty confused. :|

I ask Bangladeshis to present a district wise break up of their country of origin in below format :

Syllet - 80% Turk, 5% Persian, 15% Pathan
Barishal - 70% Persian, 20% Pathan, 10% Mongol

and so on ...

Thank you

Wait? We are Mongoloids? :blink:

Now I'm extremely confused!
 
Farsi was official language of Bengal till 1838. What the f happen after that?
 
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