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Infact Pakistani Punjab and Sindh belong to India and under occupation by Islamists.
The people must revert back to India and Hinduism, their roots.
Nizam of hyderabad £80 million which belongs to pakistan
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The people must revert back to India and Hinduism, their roots.
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yes but where did it say he wanted it to go to india?
he froze it only after lot of pressure from indians….
the money doesn't belong to india….
i don't mind if his descendants get it over pakistan… but india has no part of the money..
no we punjabis are fine with pakistan….. we want to move forward not go backwards…
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Where in hyderabad do you stay?
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so ?
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India is the successor and inheritor of all of Nizam state and thereby fortune.
Nizam certainly did not want Pakistan to have the money else he would not have frozen the transaction being carried out by his Prime Minister.
By virtue of succession of the state, India reserves the right to that amount of money along with his biological successors. Though the amount is practically trivial for India, its a question of denying it to Pakistan.
Actually India is forward by all international rankings.
Though you must learn that some replies are only meant for trolls and in their very own language. Get the hint at times.
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Lol,India doesn't have any proof to connect itself to North-west india let alone Pakistan landmass.
Mainland india always was South india
Your land belongs to us.
Maurayan empire with its capital in Bihar is Indian and every source put Mauryas birthplace as Bihar:
Gupta empire:
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1. The British used to exploit the old Nizam for his wealth and at the same time churn out stories about his marriages and thrift. He was an Oxford educated man modern for his time. Always conscious of not flouting the Shariah, he married only four. There was hardly any institution in SA or Muslim world and the British Empire that did not receive heavy donation from him. Beside contributing troops to the Brits in WW II he had purchased for RAF few squadrons of fighters. ML and Muslim League's principal financier was the Nizam.
2. In the Nizam's realm,education and healthcare were free. Hyderabad state railway was comparable to the European's.It had it's sown airlines. Osmania Unv was a top center of education. Welfare of the people and justice were paramount concerns of the Nizam. While judiciary still remains subordinated the executive in SA, the Nizam had separated the two till the lowest level.
3. In India the old Hindu rulers/aristocrats are well off with their property intact. They still dominate Indian politics. But the situation is just the opposite for the Muslim rulers/aristocrats. Mukarram Jah was well educated and trained under the direct supervision of his grandfather preparing him for the throne.He was even commissioned in IA in the Corps of Engs. During the 1962 border war he had asked to be deployed in the front. But Nehru had overruled that.
4. Funds such stuck up whether in a Swiss Bank or Natwest are a major source of earning for the Western banks and Western nations. Therefore the money will remain in NatWest. However, if it is withdrawn then BD should also get it's share equal to Pakistan's.
2. In the Nizam's realm,education and healthcare were free. Hyderabad state railway was comparable to the European's.It had it's sown airlines. Osmania Unv was a top center of education. Welfare of the people and justice were paramount concerns of the Nizam. While judiciary still remains subordinated the executive in SA, the Nizam had separated the two till the lowest level.
3. In India the old Hindu rulers/aristocrats are well off with their property intact. They still dominate Indian politics. But the situation is just the opposite for the Muslim rulers/aristocrats. Mukarram Jah was well educated and trained under the direct supervision of his grandfather preparing him for the throne.He was even commissioned in IA in the Corps of Engs. During the 1962 border war he had asked to be deployed in the front. But Nehru had overruled that.
4. Funds such stuck up whether in a Swiss Bank or Natwest are a major source of earning for the Western banks and Western nations. Therefore the money will remain in NatWest. However, if it is withdrawn then BD should also get it's share equal to Pakistan's.
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nikku inkem bashalu telusu ????
If you are a hydrabadi guess you should be comfortable to speak in the above lang ....
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That Pakistani Punjab and Sindh were for most of history ruled from what is current day India is enough. Your land is historically ruled from what is modern India. Therefore the people of these areas must rejoin their original land and or accept subservience. This is only natural.
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Hyderabad: The descendants of the Nizam have appealed to Pakistan to reciprocate to India's offer of an out-of-court settlement over the wealth of the ruler of the erstwhile Hyderabad state lying locked up in a London bank for over 60 years.
The Nizam's heirs want the foreign ministers of both India and Pakistan to initiate a dialogue to resolve the issue at their meeting scheduled in September in Islamabad.
In a letter to Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari, the members of the erstwhile royal family urged him to reciprocate to India's offer of an out-of-court settlement.
Nawab Najaf Ali Khan, grandson of the seventh Nizam, Mir Osman Ali Khan, told IANS that he met Pakistani High Commissioner Salman Basheer in New Delhi last week and sent a letter to Zardari through the high commission.
"We sought President Zardari's intervention to find an early settlement to the case to help the members of Nizam family who are financially distressed," said Najaf, president, Nizam Family Welfare Association.
The family hopes that the governments of both countries would also involve them in the talks and hand them over the money, which is now estimated to be 30 million pounds (Rs.3 billion).
After partition and before the merger of the then Hyderabad state with India, Nizam Mir Osman Ali Khan's finance minister Moin Nawaz Jung had transferred 10,07,940 pounds sterling and nine shillings in the name of then Pakistan high commissioner in London HI Rahimtoola in the National Westminster Bank, which is now called the Royal Bank of Scotland.
India raised an objection to the transfer, saying the Nizam was not an independent ruler and prevailed upon the bank to freeze the account. Since then the matter is hanging fire.
The Indian government in 2008 decided to pursue an out-of-court settlement with Pakistan and the heirs of the Nizam.
The cabinet took the decision after Nizam's descendants met Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and then foreign minister Pranab Mukherjee
The Nizam's heirs are now planning a visit to Pakistan next month to take up the issue with the authorities and to request them to initiate a dialogue with the Indian government.
"Since we are the legal heirs of Nizam and this amount has no will or trust deed, we want the money to be distributed among us as per the Sharia (Islamic law)," he said, but hastened to add that they are open to all options.
The family does not anticipate any legal hurdles. "Both the governments can claim the money but considering the present financial condition of the family, we request them to give up their claim if they have any such thing in mind and permit us to take the money."
Muhammad Safiullah, cultural adviser to the Nizam's Trust, had estimated in 2008 that Nizam's heirs may get 20 percent of the money while the lion's share will go to India.
Of the Nizam's 34 children, two sons and three daughters are still alive while there are a total of 104 grandchildren.
Najaf plans to set aside a part of the money to set up an educational institution to take care of the educational needs of the new generation of family members.
He pointed out that the family always had good relations with the Indian government after the Nizam's surrender in 1948. Referring to their relations with Pakistan, he said Nizam was the first person to give money to Pakistan for its first budget.
Since the Britain's House of Lords had ruled that the account could only be unfrozen with the agreement of all the parties, Najaf says, no progress is possible unless India and Pakistan arrive at some understanding.
Osman Ali Khan, who was the world's richest man of his time, died in 1967. The efforts to solve the dispute during his lifetime failed as Pakistan never came forward to help unlock the funds.
The Nizam had refused to accede to India after the country's independence on August 15, 1947. He wanted to remain an independent state or join Pakistan. The princely state finally merged with the Indian Union in September, 1948 after an operation by Indian security forces.
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The Nizam's heirs want the foreign ministers of both India and Pakistan to initiate a dialogue to resolve the issue at their meeting scheduled in September in Islamabad.
In a letter to Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari, the members of the erstwhile royal family urged him to reciprocate to India's offer of an out-of-court settlement.
Nawab Najaf Ali Khan, grandson of the seventh Nizam, Mir Osman Ali Khan, told IANS that he met Pakistani High Commissioner Salman Basheer in New Delhi last week and sent a letter to Zardari through the high commission.
"We sought President Zardari's intervention to find an early settlement to the case to help the members of Nizam family who are financially distressed," said Najaf, president, Nizam Family Welfare Association.
The family hopes that the governments of both countries would also involve them in the talks and hand them over the money, which is now estimated to be 30 million pounds (Rs.3 billion).
After partition and before the merger of the then Hyderabad state with India, Nizam Mir Osman Ali Khan's finance minister Moin Nawaz Jung had transferred 10,07,940 pounds sterling and nine shillings in the name of then Pakistan high commissioner in London HI Rahimtoola in the National Westminster Bank, which is now called the Royal Bank of Scotland.
India raised an objection to the transfer, saying the Nizam was not an independent ruler and prevailed upon the bank to freeze the account. Since then the matter is hanging fire.
The Indian government in 2008 decided to pursue an out-of-court settlement with Pakistan and the heirs of the Nizam.
The cabinet took the decision after Nizam's descendants met Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and then foreign minister Pranab Mukherjee
The Nizam's heirs are now planning a visit to Pakistan next month to take up the issue with the authorities and to request them to initiate a dialogue with the Indian government.
"Since we are the legal heirs of Nizam and this amount has no will or trust deed, we want the money to be distributed among us as per the Sharia (Islamic law)," he said, but hastened to add that they are open to all options.
The family does not anticipate any legal hurdles. "Both the governments can claim the money but considering the present financial condition of the family, we request them to give up their claim if they have any such thing in mind and permit us to take the money."
Muhammad Safiullah, cultural adviser to the Nizam's Trust, had estimated in 2008 that Nizam's heirs may get 20 percent of the money while the lion's share will go to India.
Of the Nizam's 34 children, two sons and three daughters are still alive while there are a total of 104 grandchildren.
Najaf plans to set aside a part of the money to set up an educational institution to take care of the educational needs of the new generation of family members.
He pointed out that the family always had good relations with the Indian government after the Nizam's surrender in 1948. Referring to their relations with Pakistan, he said Nizam was the first person to give money to Pakistan for its first budget.
Since the Britain's House of Lords had ruled that the account could only be unfrozen with the agreement of all the parties, Najaf says, no progress is possible unless India and Pakistan arrive at some understanding.
Osman Ali Khan, who was the world's richest man of his time, died in 1967. The efforts to solve the dispute during his lifetime failed as Pakistan never came forward to help unlock the funds.
The Nizam had refused to accede to India after the country's independence on August 15, 1947. He wanted to remain an independent state or join Pakistan. The princely state finally merged with the Indian Union in September, 1948 after an operation by Indian security forces.
Hyderabadi Muslims speak hyderabadi urdu ,
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The money will stay with us.
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