Nisar Khoro wins: another era of destruction begins

[fitpOsitive]

This guy was the one who sold all sorts of jobs to the people who even didn't know the alphabet completely. This destroyed overall Sindh from within. Now he is back.
I will congratulate dear Sindhis, you nailed it again. And on others' behalf, I can only say Inna lillah on this occasion.

One misconception by Sindhis: by bringing PPP we checkmate all outsiders.
Answer: Pathans don't need any political support. They are doing just fine without jobs. Punjabis are progressing in every walk of life, whatsoever. Urdu speakers who were the main target of PPPs politics are leaving the country at an unprecedented rate and doing perfectly fine in foreign countries.
So whatever Sindhis are doing through PPP, they are doing to themselves and to Sindh. The Sindhi language will anyway vanish and Sindhi culture will anyway die. Then why fight for something that will anyway parish? Better form policies like Punjab or kpk, and open up for progress.
Just a piece of sincere advice.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Let me give you a summary at history of how Sindhis were before and after the coming of PPP as a political force in power.

Before 1971, there was no Sindh province as Pakistan was under one unit system and Karachi was separated from Sindh before that. Sindhi language was banned in education and administration from 1948. Demographic changes in nearly every urban centre of Sindh during partition, where Karachi, Hyderabad, Mirpurkhas, Sukkur, Khairpur, Nawabshah, Tando Alhayar and Tando Adam became Hindustani Muhajir majority cities. Quota system for Hindustani Muhajirs which made their majority in bureaucracy of Sindh. Sindhi’s were basically orphans with not even a separate administrative unit to call their home.

After 1971 as soon as PPP came in power, it drafted a constitution where Sindh was made a separate province with Karachi as its capital.
Sindhi language was made official language of Sindh and revived in education and administration, where from 3 class to 12th class Sindhi is an compulsory subject in private schools, In 1998 there were 47,444 schools in Sindh out of which 36,750 had Sindhi as medium of instruction. There are billboards, documents such as FIR, CNIC, B-Form, Land papers etc can be made in Sindhi language. Language would only die if we let it die. All attempts of Hindustani Muhajirs failed at others from abandoning their language except for maybe Punjabis.
Urban-Rural quota system was introduced which ensured Sindhi majority in bureaucracy of province.
18th amendment was introduced which gave more autonomy to provinces and Sindh local bodies act took away most of powers of Hindustani Muhajirs.

We’ve come a long way.

Wow. What an achievement. Then do you have a single functional primary school in Sindh where Sindhi-only teachers are delivering a world-class, or maybe Sindh-class education to the locals? And any city, which is Hindustani-muhajir-less where you have world class manufacturing facilities or even Sindh-class?
You visit any govt office, you will see (I think you will not see that, it's beyond you) the plunder that has been done that office, the area, or the jurisdiction that has been raped to death.? Why you so-called well deserved sons of soil don't develop other cities of Sindh? Why every son of soil wants a job in big cities? Jo hain unki bhi maan bhen aik kerrahy ho...

Kab tak loot loot k kha logy Sindh ko? How many more years?

 

[Indus Pakistan]

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[WalterWhite]

Every household in Karachi has a sibling or abroad and hundreds are in queue. At this pace there will be no urdu speakers left in coming decade!

 

[MelloryOlephanto]

Let me give you a summary at history of how Sindhis were before and after the coming of PPP as a political force in power.

Before 1971, there was no Sindh province as Pakistan was under one unit system and Karachi was separated from Sindh before that. Sindhi language was banned in education and administration from 1948. Demographic changes in nearly every urban centre of Sindh during partition, where Karachi, Hyderabad, Mirpurkhas, Sukkur, Khairpur, Nawabshah, Tando Alhayar and Tando Adam became Hindustani Muhajir majority cities. Quota system for Hindustani Muhajirs which made their majority in bureaucracy of Sindh. Sindhi’s were basically orphans with not even a separate administrative unit to call their home.

After 1971 as soon as PPP came in power, it drafted a constitution where Sindh was made a separate province with Karachi as its capital.
Sindhi language was made official language of Sindh and revived in education and administration, where from 3 class to 12th class Sindhi is an compulsory subject in private schools, In 1998 there were 47,444 schools in Sindh out of which 36,750 had Sindhi as medium of instruction. There are billboards, documents such as FIR, CNIC, B-Form, Land papers etc can be made in Sindhi language. Language would only die if we let it die. All attempts of Hindustani Muhajirs failed at others from abandoning their language except for maybe Punjabis.
Urban-Rural quota system was introduced which ensured Sindhi majority in bureaucracy of province.
18th amendment was introduced which gave more autonomy to provinces and Sindh local bodies act took away most of powers of Hindustani Muhajirs.

We’ve come a long way.

My Sindhi brother who carries a lot of resentment in his heart as evident by him referring to people who fought for Pakistan as “Hindustani” needs to maybe go a little further more down the memory lane when Sindh was a part of Bombay Presidency and someone named Jinnah struggled really hard for Sindh to become a reality. Jinnah coming from a Gujarati family was himself born in Karachi, so tell me this, would you call an English/Urdu/Gujarati speaking Jinnah whose family has roots in Kathiawar, Gujarat, is he a “Hindustani Muhajir” too?

Sindh deserves better, better than PPP and MQM and I respect your opinion but the reality is, “Hindustani Muhajirs” have only ever had representation in Karachi and Hyderabad, or are “Hindustani Muhajirs” responsible for Tharis dying of hunger too? Are we responsible for the feudalism (oh-oh, this is gonna really piss some of you DHA chokras off) that goes on in interior Sindh?

You talk about the one unit system like it’s sole purpose was to deny Sindhis their right to have a separate administrative unit when in fact it’s purpose was entirely Bengal related and literally everyone can whine about not having a separate administrative unit under the one unit system, can they not? Including some particular “Hindustani” people who you really don’t want talking about a separate administrative unit. *wink wink*

 

[Indus Pakistan]

It's nice to read the Sindhi perspective on this. All I hear on these forums is cries of guests and not hosts. Any discussion should have two sides of the argumant - great that you provided your insight.

May I ask exactly why you have given me a minus for please? Did I break some forum rule? Is there use of vulgarity? Or what?

@HRK

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

Let me give you a summary at history of how Sindhis were before and after the coming of PPP as a political force in power.

Before 1971, there was no Sindh province as Pakistan was under one unit system and Karachi was separated from Sindh before that. Sindhi language was banned in education and administration from 1948. Demographic changes in nearly every urban centre of Sindh during partition, where Karachi, Hyderabad, Mirpurkhas, Sukkur, Khairpur, Nawabshah, Tando Alhayar and Tando Adam became Hindustani Muhajir majority cities. Quota system for Hindustani Muhajirs which made their majority in bureaucracy of Sindh. Sindhi’s were basically orphans with not even a separate administrative unit to call their home.

After 1971 as soon as PPP came in power, it drafted a constitution where Sindh was made a separate province with Karachi as its capital.
Sindhi language was made official language of Sindh and revived in education and administration, where from 3 class to 12th class Sindhi is an compulsory subject in private schools, In 1998 there were 47,444 schools in Sindh out of which 36,750 had Sindhi as medium of instruction. There are billboards, documents such as FIR, CNIC, B-Form, Land papers etc can be made in Sindhi language. Language would only die if we let it die. All attempts of Hindustani Muhajirs failed at others from abandoning their language except for maybe Punjabis.
Urban-Rural quota system was introduced which ensured Sindhi majority in bureaucracy of province.
18th amendment was introduced which gave more autonomy to provinces and Sindh local bodies act took away most of powers of Hindustani Muhajirs.

We’ve come a long way.

You wanted to get rid of hindus. It was obvious from day 1 that Indian muslims will migrate in their place. There was no conspiracy. Sindh was first province to come under Muslim League rule and support Pakistan. I cannot even imagine the demographics of Sindh under India rule.

Karachi barely had any Sindhi muslim population before 1947. As Indians from Gujarat and Bombay presidency migrated in mass numbers in newly build port.

 

[ghazi52]

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[El Sidd]

Let me give you a summary at history of how Sindhis were before and after the coming of PPP as a political force in power.

Before 1971, there was no Sindh province as Pakistan was under one unit system and Karachi was separated from Sindh before that. Sindhi language was banned in education and administration from 1948. Demographic changes in nearly every urban centre of Sindh during partition, where Karachi, Hyderabad, Mirpurkhas, Sukkur, Khairpur, Nawabshah, Tando Alhayar and Tando Adam became Hindustani Muhajir majority cities. Quota system for Hindustani Muhajirs which made their majority in bureaucracy of Sindh. Sindhi’s were basically orphans with not even a separate administrative unit to call their home.

After 1971 as soon as PPP came in power, it drafted a constitution where Sindh was made a separate province with Karachi as its capital.
Sindhi language was made official language of Sindh and revived in education and administration, where from 3 class to 12th class Sindhi is an compulsory subject in private schools, In 1998 there were 47,444 schools in Sindh out of which 36,750 had Sindhi as medium of instruction. There are billboards, documents such as FIR, CNIC, B-Form, Land papers etc can be made in Sindhi language. Language would only die if we let it die. All attempts of Hindustani Muhajirs failed at others from abandoning their language except for maybe Punjabis.
Urban-Rural quota system was introduced which ensured Sindhi majority in bureaucracy of province.
18th amendment was introduced which gave more autonomy to provinces and Sindh local bodies act took away most of powers of Hindustani Muhajirs.

We’ve come a long way.

Brilliant.

But why are Balouchis in Sindh being subjected to Sindhi imposition?

Rural Sindh is going through unprecedented levels of demographic changes as people from far flung provinces make enclaves throughout the interior. When will these realities of life take polity?

 

[El Sidd]

As Indians from Gujarat and Bombay presidency migrated in mass numbers in newly build port.

They were not Indians. They were greater Sindhudeshis.

From Gujjar-at to Jumnagarh, it's all Sindhi saqafat.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Brilliant.

But why are Balouchis in Sindh being subjected to Sindhi imposition?

Rural Sindh is going through unprecedented levels of demographic changes as people from far flung provinces make enclaves throughout the interior. When will these realities of life take polity?

In sindh, never. Corruption is all that is in fashion now.

 

[S.Y.A]

All attempts of Hindustani Muhajirs failed at others from abandoning their language except for maybe Punjabis.
Urban-Rural quota system was introduced which ensured Sindhi majority in bureaucracy of province.
18th amendment was introduced which gave more autonomy to provinces and Sindh local bodies act took away most of powers of Hindustani Muhajirs.

thank you for speaking the truth. basically you ensured continued tyranny. and now sindh is a global power with awesome tech. the quota system you are so proud of, ensured that language, and not merit is the basis of jobs. and the local bodies act ensured that cities, towns and villages remain enslaved by waderas in parliament. congratulations on your blind hatred. Alhamdulliah, through these steps PPP has turned Sindh into a super power.

btw, the one unit scheme affected all of Paksitan, and not just Sindh.

 

[El Sidd]

You wanted to get rid of hindus. It was obvious from day 1 that Indian muslims will migrate in their place. There was no conspiracy.

That's a generalization. Hindu population in Sindh is at most welcome. Industrialists had all motivation to stay and had largely been apolitical.

Conspiracy could be leaving behind millions from federal territory to provincial territory.

State of Pakistan had a policy of having displaced people shared across the country.

 

[S.Y.A]

But why are Balouchis in Sindh being subjected to Sindhi imposition?

most of the "Sindhis" are Balochis and not Sindhis at all, who came to Sindh when Kalhora dynasty employed them in their military, and then overthrew the actual Sindhi Kalhoras to form the Talpur dynasty, which caused more Baloch tribes to migrate to Sindh.

A vast majority of Sindhis are outsiders, and not originally Sindhis.

 

[El Sidd]

In sindh, never. Corruption is all that is in fashion now.

Sindh is no more corrupt than any other administrative unit of the country.

most of the "Sindhis" are Balochis and not Sindhis at all, who came to Sindh when Kalhora dynasty employed them in their military, and them overthrew the actual Sindhi Kalhoras to form the Talpur dynasty, which caused more Baloch tribes to migrate to Sindh.

A vast majority of Sindhis are outsiders, and not originally Sindhis.

Last time there was a politician named Mir Xa who claimed Kurdish ancestry while every other politician is somehow titled Syed.

Why are outside minority ruling majority in Sindh?