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'Nineteen countries' shun Nobel

No one threatened you. The person who posted it changed the title. God! Read the thread before you post.

"China has threatened there will be "consequences" for countries that show their support for Liu by attending the event."

- Sounds like a ill advised attempt to threaten to me.
 
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Woohoo big f*cking surprise there.

Wow..Just Woooow..Indians here got you all riled up haa..taking your frustration out. Good for you.

But why would you expect outcome be any different than this? After all, Indian and Chinese don't have close relation with each other.

Its not even India vs China that's the real issue but India vs Pak supported by China is the root of all evil. Don't even bother replying that Pak is your all weather friend, we all know.
 
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Its not even India vs China that's the real issue but India vs Pak supported by China is the root of all evil. Don't even bother replying that Pak is your all weather friend, we all know.

Pakistan is our all-weather friend, didn't you know. :rolleyes:

Together we make up 80% of your land borders, what fools you guys were, to make enemies out of your two biggest neighbours. A standing round of ovation.
 
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Pakistan is our all-weather friend, didn't you know. :rolleyes:

Together we make up 80% of your land borders, what fools you guys were, to make enemies out of your two biggest neighbours. A standing round of ovation.

WoW we are so scared.

There are some other banana republics that God has created for you guys to threaten and boost your ego - Please spare India. :wave:
 
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WoW we are so scared.

There are some other banana republics that God has created for you guys to threaten and boost your ego - Please spare India. :wave:

Yeah you are scared. :lol:

I read your media from time to time, and I have seen your nation's China-phobia stemming from your utter failure in 1962.

So save your excuses, your own politicians talk about how Indians are too afraid of China. Everyone in the world can see it including the USA and Pakistan, it's just animal instinct. And cowardice.

Believe me I would prefer it if wasters like you guys focused your ridiculous media on someone else but that's life.
 
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Yeah you are scared. :lol:

I read your media from time to time, and I have seen your nation's China-phobia stemming from your utter failure in 1962.

So save your excuses, your own politicians talk about how Indians are too afraid of China. Everyone in the world can see it including the USA and Pakistan, it's just animal instinct. And cowardice.

Famous Hindi saying: It takes an age to earn respect, a moment to lose it.

Keep it up, CD!
 
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Famous Hindi saying: It takes an age to earn respect, a moment to lose it.

Keep it up, CD!

Losing respect from Indians is a blessing.

It's the quality of respect not the quantity that matters, if it was quantity maybe India would be worth something. :lol:

Losing respect from the Indians who do nothing but attack me regardless of whether or not I support them, that is a beautiful thing. Two-faced backstabbers aren't worth much in terms of respect.
 
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Yeah you are scared. :lol:

I read your media from time to time, and I have seen your nation's China-phobia stemming from your utter failure in 1962.

And I can understand your frustration in not being able to replicate it in 1967 and 1987 .

So save your excuses, your own politicians talk about how Indians are too afraid of China. Everyone in the world can see it including the USA and Pakistan, it's just animal instinct. And cowardice.

Oh the CPC twists the news like that o'ver there. I should have thought about that.

Believe me I would prefer it if wasters like you guys focused your ridiculous media on someone else but that's life.

why getting so frustrated and spilling your spleen ?? Why just only 19 countries responded to your threats. ?? I can understand it man - Not even third world countries listening to the high and mighty Chinese. :lol:
 
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Oh the CPC twists the news like that o'ver there. I should have thought about that.

Sorry to break your stereotype (how surprising) but I live in Hong Kong, there is no state media here. The CCP has no control over Hong Kong media whatsoever.
 
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All governments manipulate the media, no one is a saint here. If anyone thinks otherwise they're just deluding themselves.
 
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Nobel peace prize: Who is boycotting the ceremony? Liu

This year's Nobel peace prize was awarded this year to Chinese political activist Liu Xiaobo The move angered Beijing, which warned of "consequences" for governments attending the ceremony. The BBC's Paul Reynolds looks at which countries are not going, and why.

There are two major reasons why countries have decided to boycott Friday's Nobel ceremonies: firstly, that the prize went to a dissident and secondly, that the Chinese government has objected to the win.

That this year's prize went to a dissident has drawn criticism even in Norway. One historian of the prize, Fredrik Heffermehl, said that it diverged from Alfred Nobel's intention that the prize should go to the "champions of peace" to support their roles in the peace movement and in disarmament.

As described in Nobel's will, the peace prize was intended for "the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses".

This has opened the way for governments that are not sympathetic to dissidents to object and boycott the ceremony.

The second reason - the threat from China of the "consequences" of attending - is significant because China is reaching out across the world with economic muscle.

All 58 countries who have embassies in Oslo were invited to attend. A total of 18 countries, plus China, have said they will not be going:

Russia, Kazakhstan, Colombia, Tunisia, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Serbia, Iraq, Iran, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Venezuela, the Philippines, Egypt, Sudan, Ukraine, Cuba and Morocco. Some of their reasons are outlined below.

CHINA
In early November, China warned that there would be "consequences" if governments showed support for Liu at the award ceremony. The Chinese government apparently returned their own invitation unopened.

CUBA
The dissident factor looms large, here.

Fidel Castro, himself, wrote recently: "Let's hope to God this is just one of those ideological strikes that this once-prestigious honour has delivered over its long history, and not a new rule."

By "ideological strikes", he means that the committee is making a political point, to which he objects.

VENEZUELA
Venezuela has supported the Cuban position.

IRAQ
This is the China factor. Here, it is oil that is the key. China is an active investor in Iraqi oilfields and Iraq needs the income that produces.

The Associated Press noted earlier this year: "From among the most outspoken of critics of the 2003 US-led invasion to topple Saddam Hussein, China has emerged as one of the biggest economic beneficiaries of the war, snagging five lucrative deals.

"While Western firms were largely subdued in their interest in Iraq's recent oil auctions, China snapped up three contracts, shrugging off the security risks and the country's political instability for the promise of oil."

KAZAKHSTAN
Both the dissident factor and the China factor are at play here.

Kazakhstan shares a border with China and is close to it politically and economically. There is an oil pipeline from Kazakhstan into China. They are both members of the Shanghai Co-operation Organization (SCO), a mutual security grouping in Asia that includes China and Russia as well.

The SCO secretary general, Muratbek Sansyzbayevich Imanaliyev, from Kyrgyzstan, said the prize should have followed Nobel's instruction that it be given to those working for peace, and he captured the flavour of opinion in the SCO when he said: "It is very regrettable that the Prize was awarded to a criminal who is now in prison."

Kazakhstan itself is regarded by human rights groups as authoritarian. The World Assembly of Turkic Peoples is proposing Kazak President Nursultan Nazarbayev for the Peace Prize himself next year.

PAKISTAN
The BBC's Syed Shoaib Hasan in Pakistan says that the government would be eager to be seen as among the first to be standing with China, which enjoys a great deal of popularity among the general public and the ruling elite. The countries have strong economic and defence ties, and Pakistan sees China as its most important and resolute ally.

It might also want to be seen not to be taking a soft line on political dissent - something Pakistan has a lot of in its current state of crisis, our correspondent says.

MOROCCO
The dissident factor is key here. Morocco does not have vital economic ties to China, but it does have concerns over the principle that dissidents be awarded the Peace Prize.

In particular, Morocco might be worried about Aminatu Haidar, a campaigner for the independence of the Western Sahara which Morocco controls. Ms Haidar has herself served time in prison in Morocco for her activities.

RUSSIA
In early November, a spokesman for the Russian embassy in Oslo said the ambassador would not be in Norway at the time of the award ceremony.

"It is not politically motivated and we do not feel we are pressured by China," he told the Associated Press news agency.

Russia does not need to cosy up to China and is large enough to take its own decisions. But the dissident factor is important here as well.

Russia is in an authoritarian mode, although it argues that it is simply re-imposing the discipline that was lost in the immediate post-Cold War period. Either way, it does not approve of an imprisoned dissident being given such a reward.

Wow a wake up call for indians who think vietnam is our enermy and thanks every one else who supported us, and special thanks to pakistan the country we can rely on in time of need.
 
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Obama won the prize last year and liu this year.who will be the winner of the prize next year?Bush,Kim Jong or Lee Myung-bak?:what:
 
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Obama won the prize last year and liu this year.who will be the winner of the prize next year?Bush,Kim Jong or Lee Myung-bak?:what:

i think nowdays the credibility of nobel prize is under sucpicion. wonder why obama got peace prize.
 
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i think nowdays the credibility of nobel prize is under sucpicion. wonder why obama got peace prize.

Apparently being the first African-American President promotes world peace ;). Plus don't you just love his slogan - CHANGE!!!
 
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