Niger general appears on state TV as new leader following coup

[casual]

ECOWAS probably don't even need to send troop.

If the people that pull out this coup think it's a sure thing, they would have executed Bazoum already, This coup was launched by a small contingent of presidential guard (<2000), they simply seized the presidential palace and not everywhere else. Which mean they need Bazoum to issue a surrender if they want to pull this coup off or at least hold Bazoum hostage so nothing would happen to them.

The army is also behind the coup. This coup enjoys significant (popular?) support from Niger citizens. Pointless to argue now, everything will become clear in a week.

 

[That Guy]

Doesn't matter. No one will invade Niger to reinstall disposed president. If you think otherwise then maybe we can start betting pool.

Ecowas has intervened militarily in the past, so it's not off the table.

I'm pretty sure they're serious.

 

[jhungary]

The army is also behind the coup. This coup enjoys significant (popular?) support from Niger citizens. Pointless to argue now, everything will become clear in a week.

The Army was not, and the Army is small, you need the national guard and Gendarmerie to pull off this coup, they are the one controlling internal security.

Again, if this guy thinks this is a sure thing, he would have executed Bazoum already, why he is holding him for? Especially when he already declared military junta government. Plus, they didn't take over anything outside the presidential palace.

 

[That Guy]

The army is also behind the coup. This coup enjoys significant (popular?) support from Niger citizens. Pointless to argue now, everything will become clear in a week.

There's no evidence of this being a popular coup.

There's been rumors floating around since the beginning that the army itself was against the coup but didn't stop it because they were afraid of it spiraling into a bloody civil war.

 

[jhungary]

If you think otherwise then maybe we can start betting pool.

You sure you want to bet? You don't really have a good track record on these thing.

Remember you said the Sudan Coup would end in couple of weeks when RSF force took the captial back in April? They are still fighting now.....You really want to start a bet on this??

 

[casual]

There's no evidence of this being a popular coup.

There's been rumors floating around since the beginning that the army itself was against the coup but didn't stop it because they were afraid of it spiraling into a bloody civil war.

If there is risk of civil war then it means the coup enjoys significant support right? I believe in logic.

 

[jhungary]

There's no evidence of this being a popular coup.

There's been rumors floating around since the beginning that the army itself was against the coup but didn't stop it because they were afraid of it spiraling into a bloody civil war.

It's not.

If there is risk of civil war then it means the coup enjoys significant support right? I believe in logic.

You do know the reverse is then also true, if Civil war mean the coup enjoy significant support, then the coup would have chosen that route instead of a peaceful take over.

Coup cannot start without support, so there is element in Niger Government to support this coup, problem is, if this is a overwhelm support, again, this would A.) be over and Bazoum be deposed already B.) If not they would already had started a civil war.

 

[casual]

You sure you want to bet? You don't really have a good track record on these thing.

Remember you said the Sudan Coup would end in couple of weeks when RSF force took the captial back in April? They are still fighting now.....You really want to start a bet on this??

I admit I was wrong with Sudan. Didn't realize government forces was so weak even with air support. But I'm open to betting coup leaders will stay in power in a month.

 

[jhungary]

I admit I was wrong with Sudan. Didn't realize government forces was so weak even with air support. But I'm open to betting coup leaders will stay in power in a month.

I seriously doubt that. This came from Tass

UN Security Council calls for immediate release of Nigerâs Bazoum

The Security Council members strongly condemned July 26, 2023, attempts to unconstitutionally change the legitimate government of the Republic of Niger, says the joint statement, adopted after the Friday meeting

tass.com

Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said in a statement calling on "all parties to the conflict to refrain from the use of force and resolve all disputes through peaceful and constructive dialogue

It's something here if the Russian themselves don't want this to progress into a civil war..........even they know it's not going to be good if they go the war path......

 

[That Guy]

If there is risk of civil war then it means the coup enjoys significant support right? I believe in logic.

A civil war between military forces, not civilians vs military.

Your logic is flawed.

 

[casual]

I seriously doubt that. This came from Tass

UN Security Council calls for immediate release of Nigerâs Bazoum

The Security Council members strongly condemned July 26, 2023, attempts to unconstitutionally change the legitimate government of the Republic of Niger, says the joint statement, adopted after the Friday meeting

tass.com

It's something here if the Russian themselves don't want this to progress into a civil war..........even they know it's not going to be good if they go the war path......

So you betting or not?

 

[Ich]

Would be a good thing if Niger can get some nuclear plants from Russia and also get help for educating the needed specialists ect.

 

[casual]

A civil war between military forces, not civilians vs military.

Your logic is flawed.

Even by your logic, the coup enjoys significant support in the military. It's pointless to argue about civilian support since since there has not been any polls.

 

[jhungary]

So you betting or not?

I only get off my bed for a 5 digit bet otherwise I am not interested

 

[casual]

I only get off my bed for a 5 digit bet otherwise I am not interested

Bet for bragging rights then