NHK official: Japan will never forget US nuclear attacks

[Superboy]

You are absolutely wrong. Japs killed every one in their sights in China, no matter if they have weapons or not, and they raped any female from infants to 80's.

No they didn't. Stop lying. My grandfather fought on the side of the Japanese Empire. Chinese Japanese brotherhood forever. The Americans hide far away on their New World, trying to make everyone else fight each other. We ain't taking the bait. Chinese Japanese 1 race, 1 history, 1 culture, 1 people to Americans.

 

[IsaacNewton]

Atomic bomb was just to scare the Soviets. If USA didn't use atomic bomb, we would've used conventional bombs, and the results would have been almost the same.

USA told Japan to surrender or face complete and utter destruction many months ahead. Japan's leader should've known that their military has no more food/fuel, the ordinary citizens are starving, the economy is in ruined, their navy sunk. It was a fools errand to continue the war (a war that Japan started in 1937 or to a lesser extent 1931).

The leaders in Japan just wanted to use the atomic bomb to save face. It was better to tell the public that "hey, we were doing quite well until enemy developed the superweapon" rather than "we brought the country to ruined and killed 3 million+ citizens by entering a war that we had no chance of winning in the first place."

 

[Superboy]

Atomic bomb was just to scare the Soviets. If USA didn't use atomic bomb, we would've used conventional bombs, and the results would have been almost the same.

USA told Japan to surrender or face complete and utter destruction many months ahead. Japan's leader should've known that their military has no more food/fuel, the ordinary citizens are starving, the economy is in ruined, their navy sunk. It was a fools errand to continue the war (a war that Japan started in 1937 or to a lesser extent 1931).

The leaders in Japan just wanted to use the atomic bomb to save face. It was better to tell the public that "hey, we were doing quite well until enemy developed the superweapon" rather than "we brought the country to ruined and killed 3 million+ citizens by entering a war that we had no chance of winning in the first place."

Doubt it. The US lost tens of thousands of soldiers killed just taking a puny Okinawa. The Japanese mainland is hundreds of times the size of Okinawa. Even if every able bodied American man got killed, the US still wouldn't have been able to take the Japanese mainland. Remember, by that point, over 400,000 American soldiers already got killed after 3 years of fighting in WW2.

Battle of Okinawa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[IsaacNewton]

Doubt it. The US lost tens of thousands of soldiers killed just taking a puny Okinawa. The Japanese mainland is hundreds of times the size of Okinawa. Even if every able bodied American man got killed, the US still wouldn't have been able to take the Japanese mainland. Remember, by that point, over 400,000 American soldiers already got killed after 3 years of fighting in WW2.

Battle of Okinawa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Good point. The American military commanders would've continuously dropped bombs, destroy every working industry, and naval blockade japan into starvation until the leaders surrender.

 

[Superboy]

Good point. The American military commanders would've continuously dropped bombs, destroy every working industry, and naval blockade japan into starvation until the leaders surrender.

Japanese air force Ki-84 and later fighter planes would have made mince meat out of American bombers. With every bomber shot down, at least 10 American men die. The US cannot afford to lose thousands of bombers over Japan every month

 

[zxmint]

No they didn't. Stop lying. My grandfather fought on the side of the Japanese Empire. Chinese Japanese brotherhood forever. The Americans hide far away on their New World, trying to make everyone else fight each other. We ain't taking the bait. Chinese Japanese 1 race, 1 history, 1 culture. to Americans.

I don't mind your to Americans and I even agree that Chinese and Japanese should be friends in the future. But keep denying history does no help to achieving this. I know maybe you should not be blamed for ignorance on this part. You heard the story only from your own family and your education, but you need more sources to learn the true history. Actually you could easily find a lot from the internet:

I wish you have a wonderful dream tonight.

 

[Superboy]

I don't mind your to Americans and I even agree that Chinese and Japanese should be friends in the future. But keep denying history does no help to achieving this. I know maybe you should not be blamed for ignorance on this part. You heard the story only from your own family and your education, but you need more sources to learn the true history. Actually you could easily find a lot from the internet:

I wish you have a wonderful dream tonight.

American lies and propaganda. Japanese soldiers were incredibly disciplined. They did not kill anyone who did not cause trouble. When Chinese go to Japan, it is as if he / she has come to a province of China. The people are the same. The culture is the same. Heck, even the writing is the same.

Americans try to make Russians, Ukrainians, Belarussians kill each other. Americans try to make Chinese and Japanese kill each other. It is Americans who are the root cause of trouble in the world. The American people are good people. I have nothing against them. Heck, I have family who are Americans. It is the American government that is evil.

 

[IsaacNewton]

Japanese air force Ki-84 and later fighter planes would have made mince meat out of American bombers. With every bomber shot down, at least 10 American men die. The US cannot afford to lose thousands of bombers over Japan every month

Get your history right buddy. Japan had no working factories to build planes, not enough steel to make planes, no airfield to train pilots, no fuel to operate them.

USA had Japan in a complete naval blockade, the situation was hopeless

At its peak, the U.S. Navy was operating 6,768 ships on V-J day in August 1945, including 28 aircraft carriers 23 battleships, 71 escort carriers, 72 cruisers, over 232 submarines, 377 destroyers, and thousands of amphibious, supply and auxiliary ships. -Wikipedia

 

[Superboy]

Get your history right buddy. Japan had no working factories to build planes, not enough steel to make planes, no airfield to train pilots, no fuel to operate them.

USA had Japan in a complete naval blockade, the situation was hopeless

At its peak, the U.S. Navy was operating 6,768 ships on V-J day in August 1945, including 28 aircraft carriers 23 battleships, 71 escort carriers, 72 cruisers, over 232 submarines, 377 destroyers, and thousands of amphibious, supply and auxiliary ships. -Wikipedia

Bullocks. Had American soldiers dared to step on the Japanese mainland, Japanese people would have killed them with kitchen knives, Samurai swords, shred them to pieces using teeth and hands.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Japanese air force Ki-84 and later fighter planes would have made mince meat out of American bombers. With every bomber shot down, at least 10 American men die. The US cannot afford to lose thousands of bombers over Japan every month

Good point. The American military commanders would've continuously dropped bombs, destroy every working industry, and naval blockade japan into starvation until the leaders surrender.

They had already pretty much fire-bombed everywhere.
67 Japanese Cities Firebombed in World War II
Japanese Cities
City / % destroyed / size comparison to a US city
Yokohama / 58 / Cleveland
Tokyo / 51 / New York
Toyama / 99 / Chattanooga
Nagoya / 40 / Los Angeles
Osaka / 35.1 / Chicago
Nishinomiya / 11.9 / Cambridge
Siumonoseki / 37.6 / San Diego
Kure / 41.9 / Toledo
Kobe / 55.7 / Baltimore
Omuta / 35.8 / Miami
Wakayama / 50 / Salt Lake City
Kawasaki / 36.2 / Portland
Okayama / 68.9 / Long Beach
Yawata / 21.2 / San Antonio
Kagoshima / 63.4 / Richmond
Amagasaki / 18.9 / Jacksonville
Sasebo / 41.4 / Nashville
Moh / 23.3 / Spokane
Miyakonoio / 26.5 / Greensboro
Nobeoka / 25.2 / Augusta
Miyazaki / 26.1 / Davenport
Hbe / 20.7 / Utica
Saga / 44.2 / Waterloo
Imabari / 63.9 / Stockton
Matsuyama / 64 / Duluth
Fukui / 86 / Evansville
Tokushima / 85.2 / Ft. Wayne
Sakai / 48.2 / Forth Worth
Hachioji / 65 / Galveston
Kumamoto / 31.2 / Grand Rapids
Isezaki / 56.7 / Sioux Falls
Takamatsu / 67.5 / Knoxville
Akashi / 50.2 / Lexington
Fukuyama / 80.9 / Macon
Aomori / 30 / Montgomery
Okazaki / 32.2 / Lincoln
Oita / 28.2 / Saint Joseph
Hiratsuka / 48.4 / Battle Creek
Tokuyama / 48.3 / Butte
Yokkichi / 33.6 / Charlotte
Uhyamada / 41.3 / Columbus
Ogaki / 39.5 / Corpus Christi
Gifu / 63.6 / Des Moines
Shizuoka / 66.1 / Oklahoma City
Himeji / 49.4 / Peoria
Fukuoka / 24.1 / Rochester
Kochi / 55.2 / Sacramento
Shimizu / 42 / San Jose
Omura / 33.1 / Sante Fe
Chiba / 41 / Savannah
Ichinomiya / 56.3 / Sprinfield
Nara / 69.3 / Boston
Tsu / 69.3 / Topeka
Kuwana / 75 / Tucson
Toyohashi / 61.9 / Tulsa
Numazu / 42.3 / Waco
Chosi / 44.2 / Wheeling
Kofu / 78.6 / South Bend
Utsunomiya / 43.7 / Sioux City
Mito / 68.9 / Pontiac
Sendai / 21.9 / Omaha
Tsuruga / 65.1 / Middleton
Nagaoka / 64.9 / Madison
Hitachi / 72 / Little Rock
Kumagaya / 55.1 / Kenosha
Hamamatsu / 60.3 / Hartford
Maebashi / 64.2 / Wheeling

Bullocks. Had American soldiers dared to step on the Japanese mainland, Japanese people would have killed them with kitchen knives, Samurai swords, shred them to pieces using teeth and hands.

Exactly. The US had already bombed enough. It didn't work. The worst option was invasion and that would be a horrible bloodbath for both sides and that was next. The bomb was an option that they tried first.

 

[terranMarine]

American lies and propaganda. Japanese soldiers were incredibly disciplined. They did not kill anyone who did not cause trouble. When Chinese go to Japan, it is as if he / she has come to a province of China. The people are the same. The culture is the same. Heck, even the writing is the same.

Americans try to make Russians, Ukrainians, Belarussians kill each other. Americans try to make Chinese and Japanese kill each other. It is Americans who are the root cause of trouble in the world. The American people are good people. I have nothing against them. Heck, I have family who are Americans. It is the American government that is evil.

American lies and propaganda? I guess the whole Chinese population in Mainland must have been brainwashed by the Yanks. You have Japanese ancestry that you need to defend their honor?

 

[Europa]

American lies and propaganda. Japanese soldiers were incredibly disciplined. They did not kill anyone who did not cause trouble. When Chinese go to Japan, it is as if he / she has come to a province of China. The people are the same. The culture is the same. Heck, even the writing is the same.

Americans try to make Russians, Ukrainians, Belarussians kill each other. Americans try to make Chinese and Japanese kill each other. It is Americans who are the root cause of trouble in the world. The American people are good people. I have nothing against them. Heck, I have family who are Americans. It is the American government that is evil.

its not that european discovery since the 15th century made the world and before that nothing had existed. ancient east asian civilizations like china, japan, korea etc had long been existing... interestingly, china and japan had no fights so far as historical records tell us, it all started with the european colonization, brothers became enemies of brothers, everywhere under the colonial yoke

 

[terranMarine]

its not that european discovery since the 15th century made the world and before that nothing had existed. ancient east asian civilizations like china, japan, korea etc had long been existing... interestingly, china and japan had no fights so far as historical records tell us, it all started with the european colonization, brothers became enemies of brothers, everywhere under the colonial yoke

Not correct, during the Yuan Dynasty the Mongolians tried to invade Japan.
Japan did try to invade Korea and China Japanese invasions of Korea (1592–98) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

I've said my peace in @TruthSeeker 's thread. Thank you for your kind consideration.

Nice way of skating away from get into controversal issue , you know that you dont hold any solid arguments against Americans for what Japan had done in WW2 in Asia.

 

[Aepsilons]

Nice way of skating away from get into controversal issue , you know that you dont hold any solid arguments against Americans for what Japan had done in WW2 in Asia.

You can read my posts on the thread that i had previously mentioned. What is the point of typing the same message when I've already said my peace? Go to the America thread and search for it. Use your beautiful, handsome Chinese eyes.