Next war with opponents from Sangh pariwar will be different

[Rajeev_Anand]

So my questions are on a statement "Pakistan's next war may be fought with an opponent whose leader is from RSS lead Sangh pariwar unlike previous wars where opponents were lead by Congress, so we need change of strategy"

1. There are groups of people who read past data of 1947, 1965 and 1971 wars. During these wars civilian areas were minimally target if not target at all. So according to data they predict that in next war both armies won't target the civilians again. Modi expressing praise for Indian army and comparing their army with worst war criminals Israeli forces in his speech. Will Indian army follow Sangh pariwar or congress strategy ?
2. Will atomic bombs be used on cities and does Pakistan has any anti ballistic missile to protect citizens and deployed in cities?
3. What is Pakistan's answer to Brahmos missile ? I know Pakistan has missiles itself and tit for tat can be answer but I am asking with respect to protection of citizens.
4. 40 KM is range of artilerries/Howitzer deploying them near border. Whole Lahore will be in range. I know attack means full scale war but why Lahore is scaling towards India.
5. Upto 1971, there was a philosophy that Pak Army will protect east Pakistan from west Pakistan. But it never become successful. Is this concept dead or we are treating Sindh and Baluchistan in same line?

RSS ko chodo aur Pakistan par dhyaan do....

 

[Verve]

RSS ko chodo aur Pakistan par dhyaan do....

That's like saying 'ignore the Hitler and fascists in your neighbourhood'

 

[Rajeev_Anand]

That's like saying 'ignore the Hitler and fascists in your neighbourhood'

Do you really understand words like Fascist or Hitler?
Its a false drama, image, illusion etc to camouflage for the evil designs by **** rulers on their people so that they do not asks for their rights.

 

[Verve]

Do you really understand words like Fascist or Hitler?
Its a false drama, image, illusion etc to camouflage for the evil designs by **** rulers on their people so that they do not asks for their rights.

We are on streets asking for our rights and killer of Gujarat is ruling India. We can see it all. We don't need lectures of advice from compulsive Hindus liars on what is fascist and what's not.

 

[Rajeev_Anand]

We are on streets asking for our rights and killer of Gujarat is ruling India. We can see it all. We don't need lectures of advice from compulsive Hindus liars on what is fascist and what's not.

Actually you are very good at branding somebody with misinformation as a base. About your rights dont make me laugh.....

 

[Verve]

Actually you are very good at branding somebody with misinformation as a base. About your rights dont make me laugh.....

A Hallucinating Hindu telling me about my rights! Yeah!

 

[Rajeev_Anand]

A Hallucinating Hindu telling me about my rights! Yeah!

So you want to say Hindus are bad????

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

dont apply ur noora logik or this aayen baayen shaayen with me just tell me why dint musharraf used neuces as he threatenned in 1999 instead of deviating the topic

musharraf thaought he will get siachin and kashmir both with one stroke but your natiopn not only lost best friend USA to india but also the trust of so called kashmirir freedom fighters and there cause

Loosing the americans as an ally was good for Pakistan. It means we have less headaches in our independence.

If what you say is true then Musharraf is one of the bravest men of all time. Attempting to do what you said against a nation that is more than 7x bigger than us and has abundant access to all the world's most advanced weapons systems whilst we are denied this privilege.

Just like the Indians used to say that Pakistan won't last a week in 1947 and would be reintegrated back. And just like their mantra of failed state falling in hands of TTP (Indian sponsored scums). Every prediction of these hallucinating Hindus has not come true.

Btw, have Indians managed to develop Tactical Nuclear weapons yet?

Nehru and Lord Mountbatten both believed Pakistan would not last after December 1947. And that we would become a part of india. Their vision failed.

 

[JazbaatiHindustaani]

Firstly unlike you keyboard warriors I hope there is no war even a non-nuclear one, as the damage it could cause would be unfathomable.

Anyway a small comparison between the military might will show while the battle will be bloody and cost India a good deal they will prevail in the end.

And be sure if a war breaks out world powers will ensure Pak don't have the ability to press the nuclear button. Most probably your nuclear assets will be seized before outbreak of a war. How? Well, India is responsible country and will make sure to keep the powers like US-Russia and China in loop, And while they could trust India's word on non-use of nuclear weapons, they will feel more comfortable if Pakistan didn't have the option to begin with. And India wont hold back once the nuclear threat is out.

Anyway conventional war wise, it should take days, maybe a few weeks at max for India to neutralize the threat.

The real problem for India would be after the war. What would India do after the victory? While we'll have plenty of mess on our side to deal with, what has to be done with Pakistan will be a problem for India because

a) it has no expansionist agenda and
b) it will be a mess that can't be left alone.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

A big reason for that is the Congress rule for Majority of that period where they honored the deals with the British- Other political parties both the Socialists and Right Wing doesn't believe in the existence of Pakistan or honoring any deals made with the British-

India doesn't need tactical Nuclear weapons- although several tactical Nuclear devices were tested in 98 tests- one of which was based on Reactor grade plutonium- India could assemble over 2000 reactor grade tactical nuclear weapons by 2008-09-

It doesn't matter what the right wing or other indians think or believe in terms of Pakistan's existence. Pakistan will continue to exist whether they like it or not. And there's nothing they can do about it. Pakistan completely differs to india in terms of race, dna, culture, heritage and belief system so they have no right in concerning themselves with our us or our existence. Pakistan's existence is as relevant to indians as Turkey's or Lebanon's existence.

 

[Eminent Mainstream Media]

It doesn't matter what the right wing or other indians think or believe in terms of Pakistan's existence. Pakistan will continue to exist whether they like it or not. And there's nothing they can do about it. Pakistan completely differs to india in terms of race, dna, culture, heritage and belief system so they have no right in concerning themselves with our us or our existence. Pakistan's existence is as relevant to indians as Turkey's or Lebanon's existence.

It would matter in future- Congress is slowly but definitely diminishing Force- Actually It is amazing that It has lasted as long without a dedicated cadre base-

The Right Wing and Socialists hold the future- It would be interesting to see how they would go about Pakistan- It surely matters what 1.3 billion people hold an opinion on- And the OP shows It does matters a lot in Pakistan-

Situation would be far better If Pakistanis had got their acts together- I don't see much improvement in Pakistan in near future-

 

[Verve]

Firstly unlike you keyboard warriors I hope there is no war even a non-nuclear one, as the damage it could cause would be unfathomable.

Anyway a small comparison between the military might will show while the battle will be bloody and cost India a good deal they will prevail in the end.

And be sure if a war breaks out world powers will ensure Pak don't have the ability to press the nuclear button. Most probably your nuclear assets will be seized before outbreak of a war. How? Well, India is responsible country and will make sure to keep the powers like US-Russia and China in loop, And while they could trust India's word on non-use of nuclear weapons, they will feel more comfortable if Pakistan didn't have the option to begin with. And India wont hold back once the nuclear threat is out.

Anyway conventional war wise, it should take days, maybe a few weeks at max for India to neutralize the threat.

The real problem for India would be after the war. What would India do after the victory? While we'll have plenty of mess on our side to deal with, what has to be done with Pakistan will be a problem for India because

a) it has no expansionist agenda and
b) it will be a mess that can't be left alone.

Keep hallucinating as you will. China taking India's side after India becoming an American tool to kill CPEC!? Wow! Hallucinations are become more extreme with time.

 

[JazbaatiHindustaani]

Keep hallucinating as you will. China taking India's side after India becoming an American tool to kill CPEC!? Wow! Hallucinations are become more extreme with time.

Don't make up stuff, comprehend my post. I never said China will side with India. But everyone knows in a conventional war-fare India will over-power in weeks time and then Pakistan could well use the N-option. A chance no power would take.

If war becomes inevitable, it will be in China's best interest if it doesn't escalate to nuclear level. On its part it will show its muscle to India so that we're restrained in our attack but it can't stop us.

However the powers will ensure nuclear option is out of Pakistan's equation, it may well be spun to make it look like it is for your own benefit.

 

[Verve]

Don't make up stuff, comprehend my post. I never said China will side with India. But everyone knows in a conventional war-fare India will over-power in weeks time and then Pakistan could well use the N-option. A chance no power would take.

If war becomes inevitable, it will be in China's best interest if it doesn't escalate to nuclear level. On its part it will show its muscle to India so that we're restrained in our attack but it can't stop us.

However the powers will ensure nuclear option is out of Pakistan's equation, it may well be spun to make it look like it is for your own benefit.

In conventional war, we will use the tactical nukes on the Indian Army on our own soil.

And it's a Indian dream that Pakistan will loose its nukes. No power so far has been able to take away nuclear weapons from any nuclear state.

Neutralise Pakistan's nuclear weapons and army in a conventional war ... yeah right .. keep telling other hallucinating Hindus that stuff of bollywood.

And in this conventional war you speak of, Chinese air and sea power will be fighting alongside Pakistan. Wait and see.

Until then keep hallucinating

 

[ravi gupta]

Missile development is mature tech vs ABM which is sunrise tech, which means after a certain period, new developments will start to match the rate with which missile tech improves. Sure it is more expensive, that's why only the bigger economies are pursuing it. In India Pakistan nuclear scenarios, ABM will be untested in actual combat, but the missiles and their nuclear payloads will also be untested in actual combat. I believe I had made this point in previous posts also.




The more salvos you have to employ, the less the locations you can target. If you use 50 missiles, and use 10 salvos per attack you can target only 5 locations. Whereas India can target 50 locations with same number of missiles.



The same point, if you use 10 missiles per location, and both countries have 50 missiles, you can only target 5 locations, whereas India can target 50 locations.

The point all you guys are missing. The deterrence factor as explained in my previous posts in this thread. In layman's terms, India has a nuclear deterrent that Pakistan doesn't. You can argue the effectiveness of this deterrent till the end of time. I can say 90% effective, you can say 10% effective. But you're missing the point completely. Even a 10% effective deterrence of India is infinitely greater than a 0% effective deterrence of Pakistan. In the end neither will you launch a missile, neither will we employ ABM. The objective is to have strategic nuclear advantage.

And trust me, Pakistan's military establishment is very worried about India's ABM capabilities, both officially and unofficially. So is China.

And guys, I don't mind arguing but I feel I'm repeating points already explained in earlier posts in this thread, so please a small request, come up with new points, cause I don't want to argue only for arguments sake in endless circles. Thanks..

You need to also add India second strike capability from sea,after induction of INS ARIHANT in scene.
Its an another detterence in case of nuke strike..