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You're going to lose. I would take the word of the Chinese. They know what they are doing. They are far more familiar with their own facts than you are.
Next Frontier of Supercomputer: China's Exascale in the Making
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You're going to lose. I would take the word of the Chinese. They know what they are doing. They are far more familiar with their own facts than you are.
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China will unveil a 100 petaflop supercomputer next month after investing $500 million to develop domestic chips after US ban on Intel Xeon exports to China
May 11, 2016
china, future, intel, petaflop, supercomputer
In 2015, the U.S. State Department blocked the further sales of Intel Xeon and Xeon Phi processors to Chinese institutions, most notably the Tianhe-2 supercomputer. The U.S. Administration also blocked the move in which a China-based investment fund would invest in AMD.
Tianhe 2 has been the world's fastest superconmputer since early 2013. Tianhe-2 has 32,000 Intel Xeon E5-2692 v2 processors, and 48,000 Intel Xeon Phi 31S1P co-processors. Tianhe-2 delivers a peak performance of 54.9 PFLOPS [petaFLOPS], and a sustained performance of 33.86 PFLOPS. What is little known is that Tianhe-2 is not a fully built supercomputer. In fact, Tianhe operated at a 50% capacity, as the original target for the system was 100 PFLOPS peak and 80 PFLOPS sustained.
According to VRWorld sources, China did not react in a way the current administration expected. China invested all the funds intended for Intel and other foreign vendors – into the development of in-house Alpha and ARM superprocessors, which have the potential to beat the traditional x86 architecture. In terms of funds, NUDT planned to buy 32,000 more Xeon processors (this time, based on Haswell-E) and 48,000 more Xeon Phi co-processors. Over $500 million was invested in bringing the Chinese silicon from a prototype phase to production-grade level.
At the 2016 Supercomputing Frontiers conference in Singapore, VRWorld learned the first details of the fully developed Tianhe-2 supercomputer, scheduled to debut in June 2016 during the 2016 International Supercomputing Conference in Frankfurt, Germany. This system is expected to deliver over 100 PFLOPS peak performance, and keep the crown of the world’s fastest (super)computer.
A new 64-core design will enable the system to reach its original performance targets. With the three million new ARM cores inside the Tianhe-2, its estimated Rpeak performance in the Linpack benchmark should exceed 100 PFLOPS.
When Tianhe-2 reach its full deployment of 32,000 Xeons, 32,000 ShenWei processor, and 96,000 Phytium accelerator cards, it could reach a range of 200-300 PFLOPS – if the building can withstand the thermal and power challenges associated with it.
There are several slides of Phytium Technology chips online.
Phytium Technology delivered motherboards with multiple processors and up to 256 GB per Mars processor.
Jiāngnán Computing Lab successfully developed a new multi-core Alpha processor. Considered a sixth generation design, ShenWei Alpha processors achieve more than 1 TFLOPS of compute performance.
SOURCES- VRWorld
http://nextbigfuture.com/2016/05/china-will-unveil-100-petaflop.html
May 11, 2016
china, future, intel, petaflop, supercomputer
In 2015, the U.S. State Department blocked the further sales of Intel Xeon and Xeon Phi processors to Chinese institutions, most notably the Tianhe-2 supercomputer. The U.S. Administration also blocked the move in which a China-based investment fund would invest in AMD.
Tianhe 2 has been the world's fastest superconmputer since early 2013. Tianhe-2 has 32,000 Intel Xeon E5-2692 v2 processors, and 48,000 Intel Xeon Phi 31S1P co-processors. Tianhe-2 delivers a peak performance of 54.9 PFLOPS [petaFLOPS], and a sustained performance of 33.86 PFLOPS. What is little known is that Tianhe-2 is not a fully built supercomputer. In fact, Tianhe operated at a 50% capacity, as the original target for the system was 100 PFLOPS peak and 80 PFLOPS sustained.
According to VRWorld sources, China did not react in a way the current administration expected. China invested all the funds intended for Intel and other foreign vendors – into the development of in-house Alpha and ARM superprocessors, which have the potential to beat the traditional x86 architecture. In terms of funds, NUDT planned to buy 32,000 more Xeon processors (this time, based on Haswell-E) and 48,000 more Xeon Phi co-processors. Over $500 million was invested in bringing the Chinese silicon from a prototype phase to production-grade level.
At the 2016 Supercomputing Frontiers conference in Singapore, VRWorld learned the first details of the fully developed Tianhe-2 supercomputer, scheduled to debut in June 2016 during the 2016 International Supercomputing Conference in Frankfurt, Germany. This system is expected to deliver over 100 PFLOPS peak performance, and keep the crown of the world’s fastest (super)computer.
A new 64-core design will enable the system to reach its original performance targets. With the three million new ARM cores inside the Tianhe-2, its estimated Rpeak performance in the Linpack benchmark should exceed 100 PFLOPS.
When Tianhe-2 reach its full deployment of 32,000 Xeons, 32,000 ShenWei processor, and 96,000 Phytium accelerator cards, it could reach a range of 200-300 PFLOPS – if the building can withstand the thermal and power challenges associated with it.
There are several slides of Phytium Technology chips online.
Phytium Technology delivered motherboards with multiple processors and up to 256 GB per Mars processor.
Jiāngnán Computing Lab successfully developed a new multi-core Alpha processor. Considered a sixth generation design, ShenWei Alpha processors achieve more than 1 TFLOPS of compute performance.
SOURCES- VRWorld
http://nextbigfuture.com/2016/05/china-will-unveil-100-petaflop.html
I look forward to it.
interesting these "Mars" accelerators can do 512 Gflop/s at 120 watts compared to Knights Landing 3+ Tflop/s
oh how interesting it would have been to see China swap out it's old Knights Corner 1 Tflop/s for Knights Landing 3+ Tflop/s though
the Mars accelators alone will consume 11 GW of power not including cooling for 50 Pflop/s which is peak theoretical probably will be more like 30 to 35 Pflop/s in Linmark
so that's 13/14 GW for 35 Pflop/s not bad
that alone would top the current Tianhe-2 and consume 3 MW of power less.
but how how many Pflop/s will the Xenon and Shinwei add to that??? would have to be at least 80 Pflop/s between the two + the 50 Pflop/s from Mars that's 130 Pflops theoretical peak and 100 Pflops Linmark, and I would bet the power consumption would be at minimum 40 MW
compare that to what we are cooking up in 2017!! 150 Pflops to 300 Pflops for less than 20 MW
Tianhe-2 will already be outdated and a power hog. to boot
you'll hold onto your crown til winter of 2017 though
you sounds like an indian, Will this will that, In 2017, In 20XX !!!
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China planning new supercomputer
Source: Xinhua 2016-01-22 19:26:01
TIANJIN, Jan. 22 (Xinhua) -- China is planning a supercomputer 1,000 times more powerful than its groundbreaking Tianhe-1A as it faces rising demand for next-generation computing.
Meng Xiangfei, head of the applications department of the National Supercomputer Center, said on Friday that the center will release a prototype in 2017 or 2018 of an "exascale" computer -- one capable of at least a billion billion calculations per second
Exascale computing is considered the next frontier in the development of supercomputers.
Tianhe-1A was recognized as the world's fastest computing system in 2010. Though it has since been superseded by Tianhe-2, Tianhe-1A is being more widely used. Computer scientists are finding it challenging to run contemporary applications at their optimum on faster supercomputers.
With its uses including oil exploration data management, animation and video effects, biomedical data processing and high-end equipment manufacturing, Tianhe-1A's capacity is being stretched, said Meng.
It is carrying out more than 1,400 computing tasks and serving about 1,000 users per day.
The exascale computer will be wholly independently developed by the National Supercomputer Center, according to Meng.
About a seventh of Tianhe-1A's CPU chips are Chinese.
Source: Xinhua 2016-01-22 19:26:01
TIANJIN, Jan. 22 (Xinhua) -- China is planning a supercomputer 1,000 times more powerful than its groundbreaking Tianhe-1A as it faces rising demand for next-generation computing.
Meng Xiangfei, head of the applications department of the National Supercomputer Center, said on Friday that the center will release a prototype in 2017 or 2018 of an "exascale" computer -- one capable of at least a billion billion calculations per second
Exascale computing is considered the next frontier in the development of supercomputers.
Tianhe-1A was recognized as the world's fastest computing system in 2010. Though it has since been superseded by Tianhe-2, Tianhe-1A is being more widely used. Computer scientists are finding it challenging to run contemporary applications at their optimum on faster supercomputers.
With its uses including oil exploration data management, animation and video effects, biomedical data processing and high-end equipment manufacturing, Tianhe-1A's capacity is being stretched, said Meng.
It is carrying out more than 1,400 computing tasks and serving about 1,000 users per day.
The exascale computer will be wholly independently developed by the National Supercomputer Center, according to Meng.
About a seventh of Tianhe-1A's CPU chips are Chinese.
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Lets have a bet.
50 dollars donated to Diane fossey foundation for gorillas. Print the receipt on screen for the loser.
https://gorillafund.org/donate
I say China breaks the 100 pflops.
Yes or no?
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I look forward to it.
interesting these "Mars" accelerators can do 512 Gflop/s at 120 watts compared to Knights Landing 3+ Tflop/s
oh how interesting it would have been to see China swap out it's old Knights Corner 1 Tflop/s for Knights Landing 3+ Tflop/s though
the Mars accelators alone will consume 11 GW of power not including cooling for 50 Pflop/s which is peak theoretical probably will be more like 30 to 35 Pflop/s in Linmark
so that's 13/14 GW for 35 Pflop/s not bad
that alone would top the current Tianhe-2 and consume 3 MW of power less.
but how how many Pflop/s will the Xenon and Shinwei add to that??? would have to be at least 80 Pflop/s between the two + the 50 Pflop/s from Mars that's 130 Pflops theoretical peak and 100 Pflops Linmark, and I would bet the power consumption would be at minimum 40 MW
compare that to what we are cooking up in 2017!! 150 Pflops to 300 Pflops for less than 20 MW
Tianhe-2 will already be outdated and a power hog. to boot
you'll hold onto your crown til winter of 2017 though
China will keep getting greater, while you guys can keep chanting about "Vote Trump and make America Great Again!" lmao.
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I look forward to it.
interesting these "Mars" accelerators can do 512 Gflop/s at 120 watts compared to Knights Landing 3+ Tflop/s
oh how interesting it would have been to see China swap out it's old Knights Corner 1 Tflop/s for Knights Landing 3+ Tflop/s though
the Mars accelators alone will consume 11 GW of power not including cooling for 50 Pflop/s which is peak theoretical probably will be more like 30 to 35 Pflop/s in Linmark
so that's 13/14 GW for 35 Pflop/s not bad
that alone would top the current Tianhe-2 and consume 3 MW of power less.
but how how many Pflop/s will the Xenon and Shinwei add to that??? would have to be at least 80 Pflop/s between the two + the 50 Pflop/s from Mars that's 130 Pflops theoretical peak and 100 Pflops Linmark, and I would bet the power consumption would be at minimum 40 MW
compare that to what we are cooking up in 2017!! 150 Pflops to 300 Pflops for less than 20 MW
Tianhe-2 will already be outdated and a power hog. to boot
you'll hold onto your crown til winter of 2017 though
The US Department of Energy has funded 3 supercomputers with 150-300 petaflop performace under the CORAL initiative. Those 3 are Summit, Sierra, and Aurora, and should be operating by early 2018. As you can see by the timeline, the DOE plans to have an exascale supercomputer operating by 2023.
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The US Department of Energy has funded 3 supercomputers with 150-300 petaflop performace under the CORAL initiative. Those 3 are Summit, Sierra, and Aurora, and should be operating by early 2018. As you can see by the timeline, the DOE plans to have an exascale supercomputer operating by 2023.
yup, 3 monsters coming by late 2017 early 2018.
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20 MW would be better，but 35 MW is acceptable，for now。
May 11，2016
China is funding an exaFLOP supercomputer by the end of 2020 with a 35 megawatt power limit
Since 1996 Professor Professor Qian has served on the expert committee for the National High-tech Research and Development Program (the 863 program). Currently, he is the chief scientist of the 863 key project on high productivity computer and application service environment.
Professor Qian acknowledged that despite export restrictions on processor and software technology imposed by the US, work continues on two 100 petaflops (peak) systems: the next iteration of Tianhe-2, installed at the National Supercomputer Center in Guangzhou, and the upcoming Sunway system coming to the Jiangnan Institute of Computer Technology in Wuxi, China, near Shanghai. The official line is that these systems will be ready “by the end of the year,” but there have been rumblings that one or both of these systems will be introduced during the ISC’16 event in June.
The second 100 petaflops system (Sunway) will use the next-generation Chinese-made ShenWei chips and will be implemented together with a general purpose cluster system of 1 petaflops performance. This configuration is designed to meet a wide variety of application requirements.
Professor Qian provided an overview of China’s main weaknesses, the most significant being a gap in kernel technologies and the lack of a suitable accelerator for the Tienhe-2 upgrade on account of the US embargo. “Currently there is no available accelerator to upgrade the system and it’s a major issue from the point of view of the Chinese government,” he said. “We had to change our plan and rely on our own processors. We are in urgent need for the system software, for the domestic processor, for the tool software and also the application software. Without an ecosystem around the domestic processors, we will not succeed in this respect.”
At the ISC high performance conference, there will be a talk The New Sunway Supercomputer System at Wuxi on Tuesday, June 21, 2016
13th Five-Year Plan Targets Exascale
After updating the continued supercomputing progress being made under the 12th five-year plan, Qian walked through brand-new elements of China’s 13th five-year plan, which puts into motion one of the most ambitious exascale programs in the world. If successful the program will stand up an exaflops (peak) supercomputer by the end of 2020 within a 35 MW power limit.
China is in the midst of overhauling its national research system and restructuring 100 programs into five tracks: Basic research program; mega-research program; key research and development program; enterprise-oriented research program; research centers and talents program.
The new track that is being focused on in the session is the third one – the key research and development program. A proposal for the track-3 key project on HPC was submitted in September 2015 and launched on February 2016.
The primary pillars for the key project are developing exascale computers, promoting computer industry by technology transfer and a China-controlled HPC technology set. The major tasks are next-generation supercomputing development, CNGrid upgrading and transformation, and domain HPC applications development. A robust supercomputing program is seen as a critical for addressing grand challenge problems spanning the environment, energy, climate, medicine, industry and science.
http://nextbigfuture.com/2016/05/china-is-funding-exaflop-supercomputer.html
So two 100 petaflop machines from China in the next 2-8 months。
Pretty good。
May 11，2016
China is funding an exaFLOP supercomputer by the end of 2020 with a 35 megawatt power limit
Since 1996 Professor Professor Qian has served on the expert committee for the National High-tech Research and Development Program (the 863 program). Currently, he is the chief scientist of the 863 key project on high productivity computer and application service environment.
Professor Qian acknowledged that despite export restrictions on processor and software technology imposed by the US, work continues on two 100 petaflops (peak) systems: the next iteration of Tianhe-2, installed at the National Supercomputer Center in Guangzhou, and the upcoming Sunway system coming to the Jiangnan Institute of Computer Technology in Wuxi, China, near Shanghai. The official line is that these systems will be ready “by the end of the year,” but there have been rumblings that one or both of these systems will be introduced during the ISC’16 event in June.
The second 100 petaflops system (Sunway) will use the next-generation Chinese-made ShenWei chips and will be implemented together with a general purpose cluster system of 1 petaflops performance. This configuration is designed to meet a wide variety of application requirements.
Professor Qian provided an overview of China’s main weaknesses, the most significant being a gap in kernel technologies and the lack of a suitable accelerator for the Tienhe-2 upgrade on account of the US embargo. “Currently there is no available accelerator to upgrade the system and it’s a major issue from the point of view of the Chinese government,” he said. “We had to change our plan and rely on our own processors. We are in urgent need for the system software, for the domestic processor, for the tool software and also the application software. Without an ecosystem around the domestic processors, we will not succeed in this respect.”
At the ISC high performance conference, there will be a talk The New Sunway Supercomputer System at Wuxi on Tuesday, June 21, 2016
13th Five-Year Plan Targets Exascale
After updating the continued supercomputing progress being made under the 12th five-year plan, Qian walked through brand-new elements of China’s 13th five-year plan, which puts into motion one of the most ambitious exascale programs in the world. If successful the program will stand up an exaflops (peak) supercomputer by the end of 2020 within a 35 MW power limit.
China is in the midst of overhauling its national research system and restructuring 100 programs into five tracks: Basic research program; mega-research program; key research and development program; enterprise-oriented research program; research centers and talents program.
The new track that is being focused on in the session is the third one – the key research and development program. A proposal for the track-3 key project on HPC was submitted in September 2015 and launched on February 2016.
The primary pillars for the key project are developing exascale computers, promoting computer industry by technology transfer and a China-controlled HPC technology set. The major tasks are next-generation supercomputing development, CNGrid upgrading and transformation, and domain HPC applications development. A robust supercomputing program is seen as a critical for addressing grand challenge problems spanning the environment, energy, climate, medicine, industry and science.
http://nextbigfuture.com/2016/05/china-is-funding-exaflop-supercomputer.html
So two 100 petaflop machines from China in the next 2-8 months。
Pretty good。
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https://defence.pk/threads/is-tianhe-2-overrated.423087/
let's hope these two 100 Pflop and future Exaflops aren't just White Elephants
I have read Tianhe-2 is exteremly difficult to code for and mostly sits idle collecting dust like a lot of Chinese supercomputers.
all that power but it's a sickly dragon.
let's hope these two 100 Pflop and future Exaflops aren't just White Elephants
I have read Tianhe-2 is exteremly difficult to code for and mostly sits idle collecting dust like a lot of Chinese supercomputers.
all that power but it's a sickly dragon.
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April 22, 2016
Huazhong University of Science and Technology Crowned the ASC16 Champion
SPONSORED CONTENT BY INSPUR
ASC Student Supercomputer Challenge 2016 (ASC16) concluded in Wuhan on April 22. The co-host Huazhong University of Science and Technology won the championship and the e Prize with its extraordinary performance. Shanghai Jiaotong University was runner-up, and Zhejiang University won the Highest Computing Award. In addition, Nanyang Technological University, Beihang University, National University of Defense Technology and Sun Yat-sen University won the Application Innovation Awards. The most popular team prize was won by Hong Kong Baptist University and Nanyang Technological University.
ASC16 is the largest supercomputing contest in the world, participated by 175 university teams from six continents. After preliminary matches, 16 teams were selected to attend the finals held in Wuhan, China this week. The finals required participating teams to design their own supercomputing system within the constraint of 3000 watt and apply it to various frontier scientific and engineering projects, such as optimized benchmark test, ocean simulation, material science, life genes and in-depth learning.
In the e Price challenge, team Huazhong University of Technology designed a outstanding indepth neural network optimization solution addressing the in-depth learning DNN intelligent voice recognition, which achieved highly precise training model for around 600,000 voice data involving English, Chinese Mandarin and Sichuan Dialect, improving the computing performance by 108 times the highest.
Team Zhejiang University used highly optimized isomer accelerating supercomputing system to run the internationally accepted HPL benchmark test, and made the new world record with a floating point computing speed at 12.03 trillion times per second.
Jack Dongarra, Chair of ASC Expert Committee, one of the sponsor of Top500 list in the world, and professor of Oak Ridge National Laboratory and University of Tennessee said in the interview: “So many students gathered together in the contest. The energy inspired is truly meaningful to the development of supercomputers. The contest will influence the students’ future and guide their career development. This type of contest is fantastic.”
Hu Leijun, Vice President of Inspur Group, the sponsoring organization of the contest, believed that the computing capability had become a new production element along with the rapid development in information technology, bringing more changes to the society, production and life. With this trend, supercomputers were no longer a cost, but an investment. Its development would become one of the important element symbolizing the overall strength of a country.
Chen Jianguo, Vice Chancellor of the host Huazhong University of Science and Technology commented that ASC16 closely followed the latest development of information technology and linked the technological innovation with practical needs in social life. Its commitment to the education of young students in supercomputers would help to cultivate a group of high-quality supercomputing talents with international visions.
ASC16 was co-organized by ASC Community, Inspur and Huazhong University of Science and Technology. Initiated by China, ASC Student Supercomputer Challenge aims at promoting exchanges and cultivation of young supercomputing talents among countries and regions, improving the application and R&D in supercomputing and promoting technological and industrial innovation through supercomputing.
Huazhong University of Science and Technology Crowned the ASC16 Champion
SPONSORED CONTENT BY INSPUR
ASC Student Supercomputer Challenge 2016 (ASC16) concluded in Wuhan on April 22. The co-host Huazhong University of Science and Technology won the championship and the e Prize with its extraordinary performance. Shanghai Jiaotong University was runner-up, and Zhejiang University won the Highest Computing Award. In addition, Nanyang Technological University, Beihang University, National University of Defense Technology and Sun Yat-sen University won the Application Innovation Awards. The most popular team prize was won by Hong Kong Baptist University and Nanyang Technological University.
ASC16 is the largest supercomputing contest in the world, participated by 175 university teams from six continents. After preliminary matches, 16 teams were selected to attend the finals held in Wuhan, China this week. The finals required participating teams to design their own supercomputing system within the constraint of 3000 watt and apply it to various frontier scientific and engineering projects, such as optimized benchmark test, ocean simulation, material science, life genes and in-depth learning.
In the e Price challenge, team Huazhong University of Technology designed a outstanding indepth neural network optimization solution addressing the in-depth learning DNN intelligent voice recognition, which achieved highly precise training model for around 600,000 voice data involving English, Chinese Mandarin and Sichuan Dialect, improving the computing performance by 108 times the highest.
Team Zhejiang University used highly optimized isomer accelerating supercomputing system to run the internationally accepted HPL benchmark test, and made the new world record with a floating point computing speed at 12.03 trillion times per second.
Jack Dongarra, Chair of ASC Expert Committee, one of the sponsor of Top500 list in the world, and professor of Oak Ridge National Laboratory and University of Tennessee said in the interview: “So many students gathered together in the contest. The energy inspired is truly meaningful to the development of supercomputers. The contest will influence the students’ future and guide their career development. This type of contest is fantastic.”
Hu Leijun, Vice President of Inspur Group, the sponsoring organization of the contest, believed that the computing capability had become a new production element along with the rapid development in information technology, bringing more changes to the society, production and life. With this trend, supercomputers were no longer a cost, but an investment. Its development would become one of the important element symbolizing the overall strength of a country.
Chen Jianguo, Vice Chancellor of the host Huazhong University of Science and Technology commented that ASC16 closely followed the latest development of information technology and linked the technological innovation with practical needs in social life. Its commitment to the education of young students in supercomputers would help to cultivate a group of high-quality supercomputing talents with international visions.
ASC16 was co-organized by ASC Community, Inspur and Huazhong University of Science and Technology. Initiated by China, ASC Student Supercomputer Challenge aims at promoting exchanges and cultivation of young supercomputing talents among countries and regions, improving the application and R&D in supercomputing and promoting technological and industrial innovation through supercomputing.
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http://www.pcworld.com/article/2909...0-petaflop-supercomputer-may-get-delayed.html
After U.S. chip block, China's plan for 100 petaflop supercomputer may get delayed
http://www.scientific-computing.com/news/news_story.php?news_id=2711
After U.S. chip block, China's plan for 100 petaflop supercomputer may get delayed
http://www.scientific-computing.com/news/news_story.php?news_id=2711
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most likely 100 petaflops will not show up next monthhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/2909...0-petaflop-supercomputer-may-get-delayed.html
After U.S. chip block, China's plan for 100 petaflop supercomputer may get delayed
http://www.scientific-computing.com/news/news_story.php?news_id=2711
Who says that? Western Sourgrape? Tianhe -2 is secretly aiding military project like HGV and DF-41, CZ-9 rocket.. Only Chinese insider knows all these. After all Tianhe -2 is owned by PLA.https://defence.pk/threads/is-tianhe-2-overrated.423087/
let's hope these two 100 Pflop and future Exaflops aren't just White Elephants
I have read Tianhe-2 is exteremly difficult to code for and mostly sits idle collecting dust like a lot of Chinese supercomputers.
all that power but it's a sickly dragon.
Then those sougrape American will come up self comforting theory like TianHe-2 is useless and only American is the best.
What a loser!
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