Next Chief Of Army Staff - 2013 ?

[niaz]

Seniority is a consideration only in that it makes one eligible for promotion to very senior military ranks (Major General & above). It does not guarantee it; past performance and leadership potential are the most important considerations.

Leadership and man management capabilities as well as weaknesses show up during the time when a person commands a division (essentially a mini army) as a 2-star General. Therefore all those who attain a 3-star rank in the fighting branches (Infantry, Artillery & Armour) are assumed to be competent enough to command the army.

However, promotion to the COAS or head of any of the armed services always had political undertones. Outgoing chief may recommend but final decision always rests with the President (United States) or the Prime Minister (United Kingdom), same holds true in Pakistan.

Therefore it is not guaranteed that the future COAS of Pakistan Army will be from the 4 senior most Lt Generals.

 

[MuZammiL Dr. s[1]n]

While he was IG FC during the War of Bajaur his son got kidnapped and kidnappers demands were against the interest of the state but within his power.
His son returned in pieces.

what can i say i have got no words for this man of patriotism ...

Long L|||ve PakisTan army ... PaksiTan ZindahBaaD ...

 

[TaimiKhan]

1) Lt Gen Muhammad Haroon Aslam, HI(M), SBt, AK — Chief of Logistics Staff (CLS), GHQ. (Colonel Commandant of the Azad Kashmir Regiment). Due to retire on 9 April 2014.
2) Lt Gen Rashad Mahmood, HI(M), Baloch — Chief of General Staff (CGS), GHQ. Due to retire on 9 April 2014.
3) Lt Gen Tariq Khan, HI(M), AC — Commander, I Corps, Mangla. (Colonel Commandant of the Armoured Corps). Due to retire on 1 October 2014.
4) Lt Gen Muhammad Zaheerul Islam, HI(M), Punjab — DG Inter-Services Intelligence (DG ISI), ISI Dte, Islamabad. (Colonel Commandant of the Punjab Regiment). Due to retire on 1 October 2014.

List of serving generals of the Pakistan Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

All 4 general will be retired in 2014 right after Kayani then what would they need to be promoted as COAS to giving extension … It will be better if nominate some junior but competent generals who will be retired after 3 or 4 years ………..

Their retirement is not due to age factor, rather it happens when your service tenure in one specific rank is reached, so lets suppose if these 4 Lt Gens are getting retired in 2014 after having reached 33 years of service, a promotion to the rank of full Gen will most probably 3 more years in their service, thus extension is out of question then.

In army you serve as per the years reserved against each rank reached. An officer if reaches the rank of a captain, will retire after having done 20 years of service, a Major at 25, a Lt Col at 27, a full Colonel at 29, Brigadier at 31 and so on.

So if any of these 4 generals get promoted in 2013, it will automatically add 3 more years in their service tenure.

 

[Patriots]

Their retirement is not due to age factor, rather it happens when your service tenure in one specific rank is reached, so lets suppose if these 4 Lt Gens are getting retired in 2014 after having reached 33 years of service, a promotion to the rank of full Gen will most probably 3 more years in their service, thus extension is out of question then.

In army you serve as per the years reserved against each rank reached. An officer if reaches the rank of a captain, will retire after having done 20 years of service, a Major at 25, a Lt Col at 27, a full Colonel at 29, Brigadier at 31 and so on.

So if any of these 4 generals get promoted in 2013, it will automatically add 3 more years in their service tenure.

Thanx to sharing nice information ...........

 

[Last Hope]

What about the current X-Corp commander?

 

[Saleem]

Indeed!!!!!!


One of The BEST PA generals!

he is a traitor and needs to be weeded out....

 

[Alpha1]

he is a traitor and needs to be weeded out....

Kindly please elaborate!

 

[Haseebullah]

Their retirement is not due to age factor, rather it happens when your service tenure in one specific rank is reached, so lets suppose if these 4 Lt Gens are getting retired in 2014 after having reached 33 years of service, a promotion to the rank of full Gen will most probably 3 more years in their service, thus extension is out of question then.

In army you serve as per the years reserved against each rank reached. An officer if reaches the rank of a captain, will retire after having done 20 years of service, a Major at 25, a Lt Col at 27, a full Colonel at 29, Brigadier at 31 and so on.

So if any of these 4 generals get promoted in 2013, it will automatically add 3 more years in their service tenure.

A per the new policy the Major serves longer than a Lt Col and full Col. Correct me if I am wrong. I think they introduced this a few months back.

 

[Bang Galore]

I believe that it is important that Pakistan set the precedent of appointing the senior most Lt.General as the CoAS. While I'm aware that an argument is being made about merit v/s seniority, may I submit that is inherently contradictory. A person making Lt.General must be regarded as competent (unless proven otherwise) & someone distinguishing themselves well when commanding is necessarily an outcome of being the officer in charge of that action, i.e. no way to decide whether the other contenders are less competent or not (unless everyone participated in the same action).

I say seniority is important for the following reasons:

If that be made the criteria, jostling for position, including by cosying up to the rulers to be seen as a choice will largely be avoided. Even the perception of that is bad news. Secondly, any junior officer being promoted will, other than the inevitable bad blood, face an unsubstantiable but gossipable charge of being someone's favourite. That could go two ways, that someone so selected might have a chip in their shoulder & be eager to prove themselves tough (Musharraf comes to mind) or to show the Army that he is no pushover & a puppet of the establishment, would take a hard line against the government's position, whether warranted or not, to burnish his image.

The best course is to give the senior-most commander fitting all criteria the position & announcing that it is the way future appointments will happen. It works for the Indian army, this might be one practice that Pakistan might do well to borrow.

 

[A.Rafay]

Haroon Aslam is the best choice.

 

[Manindra]

In India , Senior most Lt. General promoted to COAS & serves at this position till their retiring age .
But here I see exact opposite some one say COAS service tenure is for 3 year in not context of their age & people guess who could become COAS not senior most .

 

[Zarvan]

in that case, what I have read, heard and seen, Tariq Khan inspired the officers and soldiers under his command, he is a good speaker and leader, he transformed the FC, served outside Pakistan during the Gulf war and got recognition, is from the main fighting arm, armor corps, for a change not a Punjabi (so wont give usual whiners another reason to cry foul). people who have served under him have only good good things to say about him.

thats as good as it can get when it comes to Pakistan army of present time, so thats my take re "right man for the job"

Among senior Generals is any one by the name of Janjuja too ?

General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, NI(M), HI, Baloch — Chief of Army Staff (COAS), GHQ. (Colonel-in-Chief of the Baloch Regiment). Due to retire on 28 November 2013'.[1]
General Khalid Shameem Wynne, NI(M), Punjab — Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee (CJCSC), JSHQ, Chaklala. (Colonel-in-Chief of the Punjab Regiment). Due to retire on 6 October 2013.
Lt Gen Khalid Nawaz Khan, HI(M), Baloch[2] — Commander, X Corps, Rawalpindi. (Colonel Commandant of the Baloch Regiment). Due to retire on 4 October 2013.
Lt Gen Muhammad Alam Khattak, HI(M), TBt, FF — Commander, XII Corps, Quetta. (Colonel Commandant of the Frontier Force Regiment). Due to retire on 4 October 2013.
Lt Gen Muhammad Haroon Aslam, HI(M), SBt, AK[3] — Chief of Logistics Staff (CLS), GHQ. (Colonel Commandant of the Azad Kashmir Regiment). Due to retire on 9 April 2014.
Lt Gen Rashad Mahmood, HI(M), Baloch[3] — Chief of General Staff (CGS), GHQ. Due to retire on 9 April 2014.
Lt Gen Raheel Sharif, HI(M), FF[4] — Inspector General Training and Evaluation (IGT&E), GHQ. Due to retire on 1 October 2014.
Lt Gen Tariq Khan, HI(M), AC — Commander, I Corps, Mangla. (Colonel Commandant of the Armoured Corps). Due to retire on 1 October 2014.
Lt Gen Muhammad Zaheerul Islam, HI(M), Punjab[5] — DG Inter-Services Intelligence (DG ISI), ISI Dte, Islamabad. (Colonel Commandant of the Punjab Regiment). Due to retire on 1 October 2014.
Lt Gen Salim Nawaz, HI(M), SBt, Baloch[6] — Inspector General Armaments (IGA), GHQ. Due to retire on 1 October 2014.
Lt Gen Khalid Rabbani, HI(M), Punjab[7] — Commander, XI Corps, Peshawar. Due to retire on 1 October 2014.
Lt Gen Muzammil Hussain, HI(M), Baloch[4] — Commander, XXX Corps, Gujranwala. (Colonel Commandant of the Northern Light Infantry Regiment). Due to retire on 1 October 2014.
Lt Gen Sajjad Ghani, HI(M), Engrs[8] — Quarter-Master General (QMG), GHQ. Due to retire on 1 October 2014.
Lt Gen Muhammad Ahsan Mahmood, HI(M), Engrs[9] — Chairman, Pakistan Ordnance Factories (POF), Wah Cantonment. Due to retire on 15 April 2015.
Lt Gen Muhammad Asif, HI(M), Sind[10] — DG Joint Staff (DG JS), JSHQ, Chaklala. (Colonel Commandant of the Sind Regiment). Due to retire on 15 April 2015.
Lt Gen Abid Pervaiz, HI(M), AC[11] — Commander, II Corps, Multan. Due to retire on 15 April 2015.
Lt Gen Javed Iqbal, HI(M), FF[10] — Adjutant General (AG), GHQ. Due to retire on 15 April 2015.
Lt Gen Nasser Khan Janjua, HI(M), Punjab[12] — President, National Defence University (NDU), Islamabad. Due to retire on 4 October 2015. this man is my uncle close friend he can become 4 star general in future
Lt Gen Syed Tariq Nadeem Gilani, HI(M), Arty[9] — Commander, Army Strategic Forces Command (Comd ASFC), Rawalpindi. (Colonel Commandant of the Regiment of Artillery). Due to retire on 4 October 2015.
Lt Gen Muhammad Ijaz Chaudhry, HI(M), Arty[5] — Commander, V Corps, Karachi. Due to retire on 4 October 2015.
Lt Gen Naweed Zaman, HI(M), Punjab[9] — Military Secretary (MS), GHQ. Due to retire on 4 October 2015.
Lt Gen Maqsood Ahmad, HI(M), FF[3] — Commander, IV Corps, Lahore. Due to retire on 13 January 2017.
Lt Gen Zubair Mahmood Hayat, HI(M), Arty[3] — Commander, XXXI Corps, Bahawalpur. Due to retire on 13 January 2017.
Lt Gen Syed Wajid Hussain, HI(M), AC[3] — Chairman, Heavy Industries Taxila (HIT), Taxila. Due to retire on 13 January 2017.
Lt Gen Najib Ullah Khan, HI(M), Engrs[3] — Engineer-in-Chief (E-in-C), GHQ. Due to retire on 13 January 2017.
Maj Gen Muhammad Farooq Iqbal, HI(M), Ord (superseded) — Commander, Logistics Area (Comd Log Area), Rawalpindi. (Colonel Commandant of the Army Ordnance Corps).
Maj Gen Abdul Qadir Khan Shahid, HI(M), AD[13] (superseded) — DG Army Air Defence (DG AD) at IGA Branch, GHQ.
Maj Gen Ausaf Ali, HI(M), Engrs[14] (superseded) — DG Operations and Plans at Strategic Plans Division (SPD), Chaklala.
Maj Gen Tariq Rashid Khan, HI(M), Arty[15] (superseded) — Additional Secretary at Ministry of Defence Production (MoDP), Rawalpindi.
Maj Gen Tahir Ashraf Khan, HI(M), Inf[16] (superseded) — DG Defence Export Promotion Organization (DG DEPO), Islamabad.
Maj Gen Obaid Bin Zakria, HI(M), EME[17] (superseded) — Commandant, College of Electrical and Mechanical Engineering (Comdt CE&ME), Rawalpindi.
Maj Gen Muhammad Khalid Rao, HI(M), Sigs[18] (superseded) — DG Special Communication Organization (DG SCO), Rawalpindi.
Maj Gen Kaleem Saber Taseer, HI(M), Arty (superseded) — DG Artillery (DG Arty) at IGA Branch, GHQ.
Maj Gen Ghulam Dastagir, HI(M), Punjab[19] (superseded) — DG Organization and Methods (DG O&M) at IGT&E Branch, GHQ.
Maj Gen Rehan Bashir, HI(M), SI, EME[20] (superseded) — DG Project Management Organization (DG PMO), Khanpur.
Maj Gen Junaid Rehmat, HI(M), Engrs[21] (superseded) — DG Welfare and Rehabilation (DG W&R) at AG Branch, GHQ.
Maj Gen Waqar Ahmed, HI(M), Sigs[22] (superseded) — Signal Officer-in-Chief (SO-in-C) at C&IT Branch, GHQ.
Maj Gen Ziauddin Najam, HI(M), Arty[23] (superseded) — DG Institute of Strategic Studies, Research and Analysis (DG ISSRA) at NDU, Islamabad.
Maj Gen Shahid Ahmed Hashmat, HI(M), Punjab (superseded) — DG Personnel Administration (DG PA) at MS Branch, GHQ.
Maj Gen Muhammad Tahir, HI(M), Avn[24] (superseded) — DG (Security) at SPD, Chaklala.
Maj Gen Muhammad Azeem Asif, HI(M), Engrs[25] (superseded) — Deputy Chairman, Earthquake Reconstruction & Rehabilitation Authority (ERRA), Islamabad.
Maj Gen Javaid Iqbal Nasar, HI(M), Arty (superseded) — DG National Guard (DG NG), GHQ.
Maj Gen Raza Muhammad, HI(M), Sind (superseded) — DG (B) at ISI Dte, Islamabad.
Maj Gen Khawar Hanif, HI(M), Punjab[26] (superseded) — DG Doctrine and Evaluation (DG D&E) at IGT&E Branch, GHQ.
Maj Gen Farrukh Bashir, HI(M), Punjab[17] (superseded) — DG Defence Security Guards (DG DSG), GHQ.
Maj Gen Syed Jamal Shahid, HI(M), EME (superseded) — DG Inspectorate of Technical Development (DG ITD) at C&IT Branch, GHQ.
Maj Gen Sajid Iqbal, HI(M), ASC (superseded) — .
Maj Gen Muhammad Farrukh Rashid, HI(M), Punjab[27] — DG Military Training (DG MT) at IGT&E Branch, GHQ.
Maj Gen Ishfaq Nadeem Ahmad, HI(M), AK[10] — DG Military Operations (DG MO) at CGS Branch, GHQ.
Maj Gen Noel Israel Khokhar, HI(M), Arty[23] — Chief Instructor, A-Division (CI A-Div) at NDU, Islamabad.
Maj Gen Tahir Masood, HI(M), AD[28] — DG Military Lands and Cantonments (DG ML&C), Rawalpindi.
Maj Gen Changez Dil Khan, HI(M), AC — DG Armoured Corps (DG AC) at IGA Branch, GHQ.
Maj Gen Zamir Ul Hassan Shah, HI(M), TBt, AD — Commander, Army Air Defence Command (Comd AAD Comd), Rawalpindi.
Maj Gen Javed Iqbal, HI(M), Sind[23] — Chief Instructor, B-Division (CI B-Div) at NDU, Islamabad.
Maj Gen Qamar Javed Bajwa, HI(M), Baloch[29] — Commandant, School of Infantry and Tactics (Comdt SI&T), Quetta.
Maj Gen Sahibzada Isfandiyar Ali Khan Pataudi, HI(M), AC[5] — DG (Analysis) at ISI Dte, Islamabad.
Maj Gen Khalid Asghar, HI(M), Engrs — Inspector General Communications and IT (IG Comm&IT), GHQ.
Maj Gen Shaukat Iqbal, HI(M), Arty — .
Maj Gen Muhammad Saad Khattak, HI(M), AK — Deputy Inspector General Armaments (DIG Arms) at IGA Branch, GHQ.
Maj Gen Sajjad Ali Khan, HI(M), FF[17] — DG Quartering and Lands (DG Q&L) at QMG Branch, GHQ.
Maj Gen Khalid Mahmood, HI(M), AK[30] — DG Infantry (DG Inf) at IGA Branch, GHQ.
Maj Gen Mazhar Jamil, HI(M), Arty[17] — Vice Chief of General Staff (VCGS-A) at CGS Branch, GHQ.
Maj Gen Faiz Muhammad Khan Bangash, HI(M), Ord — .
Maj Gen Muhammad Zahid Latif Mirza, HI(M), AD[19] — DG Personnel Services (DG PS) at MS Branch, GHQ.
Maj Gen Abid Hasan, HI(M), Baloch — DG Operations and Plans (DG O&P) at JSHQ, Chaklala.
Maj Gen Ikram Ul Haq, HI(M), AK — .
Maj Gen Nasrullah Tahir Dogar, HI(M), FF — .
Maj Gen Allah Ditta Khan, HI(M), Arty[19] — GOC 21st Artillery Division, Pano Aqil.
Maj Gen Imtiaz Hussain Sherazi, HI(M), SE, ASC[31] — DG Remount, Veterinary and Farms Corps (DG RV&FC) at AG Branch, GHQ.
Maj Gen Muhammad Tauqeer Ahmad, HI(M), ASC[32] — Managing Director, Pakistan Agricultural Storage and Service Corp. (MD PASSCO), Lahore.
Maj Gen Agha Masood Akram, HI(M), FF — .
Maj Gen Inam Ul Haque, HI(M), FF[33] — DG Foreign Military Cooperation (DG FMC) at JSHQ, Chaklala.
Maj Gen Sohail Ahmad Khan, HI(M), Punjab[34] — Commandant, Command and Staff College (Comdt C&SC), Quetta.
Maj Gen Muhammad Imran Zafar, HI(M), Engrs[35] — DG Housing at AG Branch, GHQ.
Maj Gen Obaid Ullah Khan Khattak, HI(M), Arty[36] — IG Frontier Corps (IGFC Balochistan), Quetta.
Maj Gen Naveed Ahmed, HI(M), Arty[19] — Commander, Logistics Area (Comd Log Area), Karachi.
Maj Gen Sohail Abbas Zaidi, HI(M), Sigs[35] — DG (Technical) at ISI Dte, Islamabad.
Maj Gen Naushad Ahmed Kayani, HI(M), Punjab[37] — DG Military Intelligence (DG MI) at CGS Branch, GHQ.
Maj Gen Rizwan Akhtar, HI(M), FF[5] — DG Rangers (Sindh), Karachi.[38]
Maj Gen Shahzad Sikander, HI(M), Engrs — DG Works and Chief Engineer (DG W&CE) at E-in-C Branch, GHQ.
Maj Gen Mian Mohammad Hilal Hussain, HI(M), Arty[39] — DG Rangers (Punjab), Lahore.
Maj Gen Tariq Javed, HI(M), AK — .
Maj Gen Ghayur Mahmood, HI(M), TBt, FF[17] — IG Frontier Corps (IGFC Khyber Pakhtunkhwa), Peshawar.[40]
Maj Gen Asghar Nawaz, HI(M), Engrs[41] — DG National Logistics Cell (DG NLC), Rawalpindi.
Maj Gen Nadir Zeb, HI(M), AC[17] — DG Human Resources Development (DG HRD) at IGT&E Branch, GHQ.
Maj Gen Muhammad Iqbal Asi, HI(M), Sind[42] — Force Commander, United Nations Operation in Côte d'Ivoire (UNOCI), Abidjan, Côte d'Ivoire.
Maj Gen Nazir Ahmed Butt, HI(M), FF[43] — GOC 9th Infantry Division, Wana, South Waziristan.[44]
Maj Gen Jamil Rehmat Vance, HI(M), ASC — DG Logistics (DG Log) at CLS Branch, GHQ
Maj Gen Muhammad Ejaz Shahid, HI(M), Arty[45] — DG Weapons and Equipment (DG W&E) at QMG Branch, GHQ.
Maj Gen Amir Azeem Bajwa, HI(M), Sigs — DG C4I at C&IT Branch, GHQ.
Maj Gen Tariq Ghafoor, HI(M), FF — DG Joint Intelligence and Information Operations (DG JI&IO) at JSHQ, Chaklala.
Maj Gen Iftikhar Ahmad Wyne, AC — Chief of Staff, Central Command (COS CC), Kharian.
Maj Gen Naveed Mukhtar, AC[19] — DG (Counter-Terrorism) at ISI Dte, Islamabad.
Maj Gen Sadiq Ali, AC[17] — Commandant, Pakistan Military Academy (Comdt PMA), Kakul.
Maj Gen Maqsood Ahmad Abbasi, Arty — .
Maj Gen Farhan Akhtar, Arty[19] — DG (P), at ISI Dte, Islamabad.
Maj Gen Javed Mahmood Bukhari, Engrs[46] — DG Frontier Works Organisation (DG FWO), Rawalpindi.
Maj Gen Muhammad Abid Nazir, Inf[19] — Commander, Logistics Area (Comd Log Area), Peshawar.
Maj Gen Hidayat Ur Rehman, AK[17] — GOC 14th Infantry Division, Okara.[47]
Maj Gen Muhammad Arif Warraich, Inf[19] — GOC 16th Infantry Division, Pano Aqil.
Maj Gen Malik Zafar Iqbal, Inf[25] — DG Anti-Narcotics Force (DG ANF), Rawalpindi.
Maj Gen Anwar Ali Hyder, Inf — DG Staff Duties (DG SD) at COAS Secretariat, GHQ.
Maj Gen Sajjad Rasul, SBt, Inf — DG (Security) at ISI Dte, Islamabad.
Maj Gen Shahid Baig Mirza, Inf[48] — GOC 10th Infantry Division, Lahore.
Maj Gen Asim Saleem Bajwa, TBt, Inf[17] — DG Inter-Services Public Relations (DG ISPR), Rawalpindi.
Maj Gen Umar Farooq Durrani, AC[17] — GOC 1st Armoured Division, Multan.
Maj Gen Ahmad Mahmood Hayat, AC[49] — GOC 40th Infantry Division, Dera Ismail Khan.[50]
Maj Gen Muhammad Ali Cheema, Pakistan military School Faisalabad.
Maj Gen Tariq Masood Malik, Arty — .
Maj Gen Khan Tahir Javed Khan, SBt, Arty — .
Maj Gen Muhammad Saleem Raza, AD[13] — GOC 4th Air Defence Division, Malir.
Maj Gen Mazhar Saleem Khan, Punjab[51] — GOC 41st Infantry Division, Quetta.
Maj Gen Muhammad Jaffer, FF[52] — GOC 8th Infantry Division, Sialkot.
Maj Gen Syed Najam ul Hassan Shah, Sind[53] — GOC 12th Infantry Division, Murree.[54]
Maj Gen Ghulam Qamar, FF[55] — GOC 19th Infantry Division, Swat.[56]
Maj Gen Ali Abbas Hyder, SBt, Baloch[57] — GOC 7th Infantry Division, Miranshah, North Waziristan.[58]
Maj Gen Aamer Riaz, FF[59] — GOC 11th Infantry Division, Lahore.
Maj Gen Abid Rafique, Punjab[60] — GOC Special Services Group (GOC SSG), Cherat.
Maj Gen Muhammad Asif Khattak, CMI[17] — Commander, Logistics Area (Comd Log Area), Gujranwala.
Maj Gen Muhammad Junaid, TI(M), EME[17] — DG Defence Science and Technology Organization (DG DESTO), Rawalpindi.
Maj Gen Umar Farooq Barki, AC[61] — GOC 6th Armoured Division, Gujranwala.
Maj Gen Muhammad Shafiq, AC — GOC 26th Mechanised Division, Bahawalpur.
Maj Gen Mussarat Nawaz Malik, Arty[62] — GOC 35th Infantry Division, Bahawalpur.
Maj Gen Naseer Ali Khan, Arty — Chief of Staff, Southern Command (COS SC), Quetta.
Maj Gen Muhammad Irshad, Arty — Commandant, School of Artillery (Comdt SoA), Nowshera.
Maj Gen Samrez Salik, Arty[63] — GOC 33rd Infantry Division, Quetta.
Maj Gen Akhtar Jamil Rao, Engrs — GOC 45th Engineers Division, Rawalpindi.
Maj Gen Sana Ullah Khan, Inf — GOC 17th Infantry Division, Swat.
Maj Gen Hafiz Masroor Ahmed, Inf — Commander, Force Command Gilgit-Baltistan (Comd FCGB), Gilgit.[64]
Maj Gen Nasir Dilawar Shah, Avn — DG (Counterintelligence) at ISI Dte, Islamabad.
Maj Gen Arshad Mahmood, ASC — DG Supply and Transport (DG S&T) at CLS Branch, GHQ.
Maj Gen Tariq Haleem Suri, Ord — DG Ordnance Services (DG OS) at QMG Branch, GHQ.
Maj Gen Omar Mahmood Hayat, Ord — DG Procurement (Army) at DG DP, Rawalpindi.
Maj Gen Rehan Abdul Baqi, EME — DG Military Vehicles, Research and Development Establishment (DG MVRDE), Rawalpindi.
Maj Gen Khalid Mehmood, EME — DG Electrical and Mechanical Engineering (DG EME) at C&IT Branch, GHQ.
Maj Gen Sarfraz Sattar, AC — .
Maj Gen Mohammed Naeem Ashraf, AC[19] — GOC 25th Mechanised Division, Karachi.
Maj Gen Hamayun Aziz, Arty[19] — GOC 2nd Artillery Division, Gujranwala
Maj Gen Qazi Muhammad Ikram Ahmad, Arty — .
Maj Gen Syed Shafqat Asghar, Arty — .
Maj Gen Muhammad Hamayun Saleem, Arty — .
Maj Gen Bilal Akbar, Arty — .
Maj Gen Farhat Abbas Sani, AD[19] — GOC 3rd Air Defence Division, Sargodha.
Maj Gen Muhammad Ajmal Iqbal, — .
Maj Gen Anwar Ul Haq Chaudhry, Engrs[19] — Commandant, Military College of Engineering (Comdt MCE), Risalpur.
Maj Gen Muhammad Afzal, — .
Maj Gen Faheem Ul Aziz, Inf — .
Maj Gen Nadeem Raza, Inf — .
Maj Gen Muhammad Tayyab Azam, Inf[19] — Sector Commander, ISI Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Peshawer.
Maj Gen Raja Aftab Khan, Inf[19] — Sector Commander, ISI Punjab, Lahore.
Maj Gen Sher Afgun, Inf — GOC 23rd Inf division,jhelum.
Maj Gen Amer Aslam Khan, TBt, Baloch[19] — GOC 15th Infantry Division, Sialkot.
Maj Gen Abid Ejaz Kahloon, Inf — .
Maj Gen Anjum Enayat — .
Maj Gen Iftikhar Aamir[19] — Sector Commander, ISI Balochistan, Quetta.
Maj Gen Mushtaq Ahmad Faisal[19] — Vice Chief of Logistics Staff (VCLS) at CLS Branch, GHQ.
Maj Gen Qaiser Anees Khurram — .
Maj Gen Mohammad Muazzam Ali, EME[19] — DG Heavy Industries Taxila (DG HIT), Taxila.

 

[Guest01]

You know why I said leadership? See General Musharraf after March 9, 2007. That when he got real challenge ot his rule after he dismissed CJ. Most of his decisions were blunders after that date.

The excuse put forth he was a General and not politician does not stick. He was willingly there. So he must have been equipped, by Army training to take tough and right decisions under pressure. He failed on this count.

So seniority to me is a lesser criteria than leadership. COAS is a leadership role. Not a seniority role. In Pakistan we stress on seniority which is not a criteria at all here in West.

So then can we assume that you suggest that Pakistan should plan ahead for another scenario where the next COAS will dismiss the civilian government and hence come up with the choice of decision that you think Musharraf failed at?

 

[Amaa'n]

In India , Senior most Lt. General promoted to COAS & serves at this position till their retiring age .
But here I see exact opposite some one say COAS service tenure is for 3 year in not context of their age & people guess who could become COAS not senior most .

my dear we are not here to discuss Indian Army's rules, lets stick to the topic. Every Military force around the world has its own rules and code of conduct. One example is US where promotion is based on experience and traits rather than being senior

So then can we assume that you suggest that Pakistan should plan ahead for another scenario where the next COAS will dismiss the civilian government and hence come up with the choice of decision that you think Musharraf failed at?

one should always have a contingency plan

 

[Manindra]

my dear we are not here to discuss Indian Army's rules, lets stick to the topic. Every Military force around the world has its own rules and code of conduct. One example is US where promotion is based on experience and traits rather than being senior

India pakistan both have British legacy armed forces thus why both have same chain of command but why there are difference in selection of COAS