New Video about Iraqi army equepments what y'all think?.

[Malik Alashter]

 

[That Guy]

I don't know about equipment, but the Iraqi Army is now more competent than they ever have been. Trial by fire may have been the best thing that happened to the Iraqi Army, weeding out those that were weak, or only in it for less than good reasons.

If Iraq ever recovers, and militias are fully dismantled, the Iraqi army will be a force to be reckoned with.

 

[Malik Alashter]

I don't know about equipment, but the Iraqi Army is now more competent than they ever have been. Trial by fire may have been the best thing that happened to the Iraqi Army, weeding out those that were weak, or only in it for less than good reasons.

If Iraq ever recovers, and militias are fully dismantled, the Iraqi army will be a force to be reckoned with.

Unfortunately most Iraqis still don't trust the army because it's led by baathist!.

But we have the PM Forces that we reckon on it.

 

[Gufi]

If Iraq ever recovers, and militias are fully dismantled, the Iraqi army will be a force to be reckoned with.

the militias are stronger then the army and are more popular with the people, not to mention have more political clout.... they will haunt the region later...

 

[That Guy]

the militias are stronger then the army and are more popular with the people, not to mention have more political clout.... they will haunt the region later...

Not necessarily true, it depends on which militia group you refer to, as they're not under one command. Iranian backed militias, such as the so called "Mehdi Army" are quite powerful, while those that work independently or are mainly Sunni, tend to be weaker due to lack of funding.

Even then, the Iraqi army has become quite popular, at least from what I've heard from my Iraqi friends. Militias are starting to lose quite a bit of influence, due to human rights abuses, and sectarian agendas.

Unfortunately most Iraqis still don't trust the army because it's led by baathist!.

But we have the PM Forces that we reckon on it.

From my understanding, wasn't the baathist party and many of it's members banned from politics and holding government/security offices?

Either way, from what I've heard the Iraqi army seems to be gaining popularity as a non-sectarian organization.

 

[Malik Alashter]

the militias are stronger then the army and are more popular with the people, not to mention have more political clout.... they will haunt the region later...

What do you mean by militia?.

 

[Gufi]

Not necessarily true, it depends on which militia group you refer to, as they're not under one command. Iranian backed militias, such as the so called "Mehdi Army" are quite powerful, while those that work independently or are mainly Sunni, tend to be weaker due to lack of funding.

that I totally agree with

Even then, the Iraqi army has become quite popular, at least from what I've heard from my Iraqi friends. Militias are starting to lose quite a bit of influence, due to human rights abuses, and sectarian agendas.

that i do not agree with
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/26/world/middleeast/iraq-falluja-anbar-province-isis.html?_r=0
read this article
the issue here is that there are people starving and suffering and they see the Iraqi army which is barricading them in... the battle is not won until you have a peaceful populace... this populace is even worse of then ours divided by sects
and the militias that are formed will be too strong to uproot because the political leadership is spineless... and these militias will drag Iraq into constant warfare
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-N...-Shiite-militias-clash-in-Iraq/3151461587162/
too many divisions for a real state... Iraq will end up divided on some line... the unemployed Iraqi army men of Saddam's era are still old enough to fight and will be paid guns for hire after American stupid policies on hiring after Saddam's defeat... can be directly blamed for the crisis that followed... All of it

What do you mean by militia?.

TUZ KHURMATU, Iraq, April 25 (UPI) -- Kurdish Peshmerga troops and Iraqi Shiite militia fought against each other, killing 22 fighters and potentially complicating the regional fight against the Islamic State. the underlined is what militias I mean...

 

[Malik Alashter]

Not necessarily true, it depends on which militia group you refer to, as they're not under one command. Iranian backed militias, such as the so called "Mehdi Army" are quite powerful, while those that work independently or are mainly Sunni, tend to be weaker due to lack of funding.

Even then, the Iraqi army has become quite popular, at least from what I've heard from my Iraqi friends. Militias are starting to lose quite a bit of influence, due to human rights abuses, and sectarian agendas.


From my understanding, wasn't the baathist party and many of it's members banned from politics and holding government/security offices?

Either way, from what I've heard the Iraqi army seems to be gaining popularity as a non-sectarian organization.

That's your understanding otherwise baathist brought back to military and politics unfortunately since then the country in chaos without baathist ISIS wouldn't be able to gain land in the country most of general in the Army baathist most of the sunni politicians baathist alas.

If don't get rid of these insects the country will see more blood.

 

[shah1398]

Which aircraft is at 00:20 minutes? Though dual seater but seems so much look alike of Thunder.

 

[Malik Alashter]

TUZ KHURMATU, Iraq, April 25 (UPI) -- Kurdish Peshmerga troops and Iraqi Shiite militia fought against each other, killing 22 fighters and potentially complicating the regional fight against the Islamic State. the underlined is what militias I mean...

Ok, what so called the shiite militia that's not right because those are part of PM forces which is a legal armed forces that led by the head of the state and the leader of the Iraqi armed forces so they are not militia at all.

But the Peshmerga troops yes since they are not under the command of the state army leader.

 

[Gufi]

Ok, what so called the shiite militia that's not right because those are part of PM forces which is a legal armed forces that led by the head of the state and the leader of the Iraqi armed forces so they are not militia at all.

They were given legal powers is very different to being part of the army... what is their role after this war ends and where are they funded from... There are a lot of if's here, it is easy to arm the people but getting them to stop fighting and give up their arms is difficult

What I am trying to say is they were Militias whatever status they do have now...

 

[Malik Alashter]

They were given legal powers is very different to being part of the army... what is their role after this war ends and where are they funded from... There are a lot of if's here, it is easy to arm the people but getting them to stop fighting and give up their arms is difficult

What I am trying to say is they were Militias whatever status they do have now...

Any way Militia the term by itself doesn't mean any thing bad It means people who fight defend their country it means on call men to defend their country any how these shiite militia Obie the constitution and the law of their country weather some one like them or hate them who cares

 

[Baloch Pakistani]

Iraqi army has imporved alot in the previous year by removing "some" corrupt officials and with US and Hashd al shabi's help. Their special forces are now performing way better than how they performed in ramadi last year which was a real shame for iraq special forces and still its a myth what happened there actually. Hashd al shabi is both good and bad for iraq's own security and political situation.

After wiping out ISIS the real trouble will begin for iraq in the form of rehabilitation and Peshmerga. Rehabilitation will require tens of billions of dollars. And the kurds will try to announce separation from iraqi state and i think peshmerga is good enough to defend against iraqi army if they try to attack the kurds. My support is for united iraq, and not for sunni shia or kurd mini states.

 

[Malik Alashter]

Iraqi army has imporved alot in the previous year by removing "some" corrupt officials and with US and Hashd al shabi's help. Their special forces are now performing way better than how they performed in ramadi last year which was a real shame for iraq special forces and still its a myth what happened there actually. Hashd al shabi is both good and bad for iraq's own security and political situation.

After wiping out ISIS the real trouble will begin for iraq in the form of rehabilitation and Peshmerga. Rehabilitation will require tens of billions of dollars. And the kurds will try to announce separation from iraqi state and i think peshmerga is good enough to defend against iraqi army if they try to attack the kurds. My support is for united iraq, and not for sunni shia or kurd mini states.

Excellent and You know what you are talking about.

Hashd Alshaabi ain't a problem They came to defend the country against Takfirees and Baathist and against any one works against the Iraqis BTW the Hashd isn't shiite only no they are Sunni Arab Kurds Turkman Christine actually one the leaders in the Hashd is a christine guy see as long as they work under the command of the prime minister they are not any problem But Kurds who want to devide and Baathist who want to rewind the time these people yes are problem.

 

[Wasteland]

the militias are more popular with the people, not to mention have more political clout.... they will haunt the region later...

You do know that most of the Iraqi population are Shiites, right? And the militias are Sunnis ... so..... no.... just no....