New trendy on Chinese social media today, boycotting, burning and ripping off H&M, Nike, Adidas over their Xinjiang remarks

[beijingwalker]

Read my replies again. Ningbo is a fine city infrastructure wise. It has old and new areas. I never questioned the infrastructure in china , its the sight of two kids , boy and girl, being dragged by their necks by a security man , in the main waiting hall in shanghai hsr hub , with no one around batting a eye , that i am speaking of. Or the company head berating his junior for a hour , like a slave owner , that i am speaking of.
In India a simple new road has to pass the gauntlet of the state government, local municipal, green board, ngos, political opposition, courts, etc. The Chinese interpreter told me that in china, the bill dozers reach with a few days notice , wherever infrastructure has to be developed. No courts, except as a eyewash.

Chinese law enforcement officers are much nicer than their counterparts in US and India, US shoots with guns and India beats with sticks, both are disgustingly savage, Chinese police usually carry no weapons. As for china demolishing old buildings? Did your interpreter explain a popular Chinese phrase 钉子户 （nail house）to you?

Chinese city builds bridge around house after owner refuses to move

LOL.. Epic troll Chinese city builds bridge around house after owner refuses to move

defence.pk

 

[mike2000 is back]

Read my replies again. Ningbo is a fine city infrastructure wise. It has old and new areas. I never questioned the infrastructure in china , its the sight of two kids , boy and girl, being dragged by their necks by a security man , in the main waiting hall in shanghai hsr hub , with no one around batting a eye , that i am speaking of. Or the company head berating his junior for a hour , like a slave owner , that i am speaking of.
In India a simple new road has to pass the gauntlet of the state government, local municipal, green board, ngos, political opposition, courts, etc. The Chinese interpreter told me that in china, the bill dozers reach with a few days notice , wherever infrastructure has to be developed. No courts, except as a eyewash.

Oh you are talking about human rights then. Well, that's a tricky one and I don't want to dwell on this in this forum and make countries like yours look bad in this aspect, since I had a great time in India and made some good friends there. However since you mentioned this topic , i must say that during all the times I've been to India and China , ironically I've witnessed more police/security forces or official brutality against citizens in India far more than in China to be honest. That is one thing that surprised me since before visiting both countries with my wife we had thought it will be the opposite actually. In india I'm sorry to say my wife often felt uncomfortable with the way many people reacted in the streets there , since we often liked to walk and visit normal common streets people use on a daily basis when we go on holidays, we kinda like that personal touch and feeling of the country we visit instead of staying in the boring popular touristic places. The way men there often harrassed my wife sometimes even in front of me often meant that we had to cut short many of our visits and places we would have otherwise liked to go. Same with the way police often treated some local people there especially when they wanted to chase them from some public places (begged and the like etc) . By contrast me and my wife never faced such issues in China and we could basically go anywhere and never face any form of harrasment or felt uncomfortable or in danger at anytime of the day or even night. My wife even travelled solo at one point there and never had a bad experience.

Same with common people's access to basic facilities needed in life, people on China obviously have access to this decent basic facilities. That is also a form of human rights. There is no decency or honour in poverty to be honest.
In short if i had to choose I'll chose to be in China than India

 

[comci]

Oh you are talking about human rights then. Well, that's a tricky one and I don't want to dwell on this in this forum and make countries like yours look bad in this aspect, since I had a great time in India and made some good friends there. However since you mentioned this topic , i must say that during all the times I've been to India and China , ironically I've witnessed more police/security forces or official brutality against citizens in India far more than in China to be honest. That is one thing that surprised me since before visiting both countries with my wife we had thought it will be the opposite actually. In india I'm sorry to say my wife often felt uncomfortable with the way many people reacted in the streets there , since we often liked to walk and visit normal common streets people use on a daily basis when we go on holidays, we kinda like that personal touch and feeling of the country we visit instead of staying in the boring popular touristic places. The way men there often harrassed my wife sometimes even in front of me often meant that we had to cut short many of our visits and places we would have otherwise liked to go. Same with the way police often treated some local people there especially when they wanted to chase them from some public places (begged and the like etc) . By contrast me and my wife never faces such issues in China and we could basically go anywhere and never faces any form of harrasment or felt uncomfortable or in danger.
Same with common people's access to basic facilities needed in life, people on China obviously have access to this decent basic facilities. That is also a form of human rights. There is no decency or honour in poverty to be honest.
In short of i has to choose I'll chose to be in China than India

That was a hard truth about China and India you should never mentioned. Sometimes its better to let the frog stays in the well.
"incredible sleepy India''.
I prefer current India attitude towards China more than anything. I would be more worried if they copy the chinese mindset. But for now "all quiet on the Western Front" which suited China interests the best.
In real life, i always told Indian in the Netherlands who we call them Hindustan people, that China has never been a match to India. Chinese are way inferior compared to Indian technology, etc. They always nodding in agreement without even facts checking.

Probably knock offs anyway

Perhaps it is a knock offs, perhaps it is a genuine one, who knows. The real message is that the Nike shoes (bootleg or not) represent the Nike brands and being burned.
If i made a homemade USA flag and burnt it in public, does it really matter whether its a genuine flag or home made one (knock off)? It is all about ''the message''

 

[Dark1]

Oh you are talking about human rights then. Well, that's a tricky one and I don't want to dwell on this in this forum and make countries like yours look bad in this aspect, since I had a great time in India and made some good friends there. However since you mentioned this topic , i must say that during all the times I've been to India and China , ironically I've witnessed more police/security forces or official brutality against citizens in India far more than in China to be honest. That is one thing that surprised me since before visiting both countries with my wife we had thought it will be the opposite actually. In india I'm sorry to say my wife often felt uncomfortable with the way many people reacted in the streets there , since we often liked to walk and visit normal common streets people use on a daily basis when we go on holidays, we kinda like that personal touch and feeling of the country we visit instead of staying in the boring popular touristic places. The way men there often harrassed my wife sometimes even in front of me often meant that we had to cut short many of our visits and places we would have otherwise liked to go. Same with the way police often treated some local people there especially when they wanted to chase them from some public places (begged and the like etc) . By contrast me and my wife never faces such issues in China and we could basically go anywhere and never faces any form of harrasment or felt uncomfortable or in danger.
Same with common people's access to basic facilities needed in life, people on China obviously have access to this decent basic facilities. That is also a form of human rights. There is no decency or honour in poverty to be honest.
In short of i has to choose I'll chose to be in China than India

Goes without saying that as a Britisher you would chose china.

 

[beijingwalker]

Goes without saying that as a Britisher you would chose china.

I guess more British people live in China than in India now, so it's not surprising at all.

 

[Dark1]

I guess more British people live in China than in India now, so it's not surprising at all.

English are known as a country of shopkeepers. They know which side their bread is buttered. Not like the Americans, with whom you are very clear where you stand. Brits are a insidious lot. The queen will entertain every dictator in the world as long as the commerce is good. All the while mouthing niceties on human rights.

 

[flowerfan2020]

There are many unaccounted rapes in Xinjiang camps. We don't know their names, their face, nothing. But it certainly happens.

You are a rapist accountable to many your neighborhood girls. We don't known their names, their face, nothing. but it certainly happens.

 

[qwerrty]

banned on e-commerce platforms and now landlords are banning them too offline.

i bet other brands are sweating right now. play stupid game, win stupid prize

H&M Stores Shut by Chinese Landlords as Xinjiang Fallout Grows

Hennes & Mauritz AB stores in some parts of China are being closed by their landlords, threatening to disrupt the clothing giant’s growth in its fourth-biggest market as Beijing’s growing sensitivity toward criticism of the human-rights situation in Xinjiang ensnares western companies.

www.bloomberg.com

 

[rent4country]

When are they going to boycott sending their kids over to our country? When are they going to recall their kids from America?

In China, families use the US as a status symbol to show off their socio-economic status by telling each other how their kids are studying in the US.

That's called Patriotism.

Please, don't envy with Chinese patriotism

Genocide patriotism, how adorable

 

[qwerrty]

When are they going to boycott sending their kids over to our country? When are they going to recall their kids from America?

they don't go to india

 

[rent4country]

they don't go to india

What was your socio-economic clout? Did you get to increase your family's prestige by coming and living among us, studying here?

 

[qwerrty]

What was your socio-economic clout? Did you get to increase your family's prestige by coming and living among us, studying here?

me no study slumdog

 

[rent4country]

me no study slumdog

ah- too broke, lower strata? Lucky us

 

[tower9]

Oh you are talking about human rights then. Well, that's a tricky one and I don't want to dwell on this in this forum and make countries like yours look bad in this aspect, since I had a great time in India and made some good friends there. However since you mentioned this topic , i must say that during all the times I've been to India and China , ironically I've witnessed more police/security forces or official brutality against citizens in India far more than in China to be honest. That is one thing that surprised me since before visiting both countries with my wife we had thought it will be the opposite actually. In india I'm sorry to say my wife often felt uncomfortable with the way many people reacted in the streets there , since we often liked to walk and visit normal common streets people use on a daily basis when we go on holidays, we kinda like that personal touch and feeling of the country we visit instead of staying in the boring popular touristic places. The way men there often harrassed my wife sometimes even in front of me often meant that we had to cut short many of our visits and places we would have otherwise liked to go. Same with the way police often treated some local people there especially when they wanted to chase them from some public places (begged and the like etc) . By contrast me and my wife never faced such issues in China and we could basically go anywhere and never face any form of harrasment or felt uncomfortable or in danger at anytime of the day or even night. My wife even travelled solo at one point there and never had a bad experience.

Same with common people's access to basic facilities needed in life, people on China obviously have access to this decent basic facilities. That is also a form of human rights. There is no decency or honour in poverty to be honest.
In short if i had to choose I'll chose to be in China than India

Chinese society is just far more decent than Indian society. The fact that your expectation was the opposite before your trip just demonstrates how effective the anti China propaganda is in the mainstream media.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Goes without saying that as a Britisher you would chose china.

The thing is it's not just about China. East Asia countries in general(Japan, South Korea, Singapore, Taiwan, the ones I've been to ) tend to be more organized and better in public planning than south Asian countries. In fact we are all impressed about the spectacular Chinese growth story and are wowed by it. However, if we put it in context with other East asian countries like Japan, South Korea or even Taiwan to some extent (China's peers) then it's not that spectacular to be honest. China is just following the same route/trajectory all these countries already went through long ago. The only difference is that China was late to the game and is far more populous, so the effect and extent of it's growth has more impact on the world than it's peers did.
I guess the other advantage they have is that they have very developed and advanced neighbours/peers which has also helped them in attracting more investments, trade, ties and links with these countries and thereby helped shaped the country's society/public and government into adopting a forward development thinking since they have advanced peers to compare with and learn from their mistakes and successes and better adapt them to their country. Etc.
India and South Asia by contrast is one of the poorest regions on earth(if not the poorest region altogether) and there is no single advanced developed country in south Asia. So I guess it makes it hard for the indian public/government and society as a whole to really put things into perspective, compare and contrast, learn from and advanced together etc. All this is lacking which makes development more difficult in the region I guess. Hopefully South asia will one day come out from it's current predicament. But for this to happen they need at least one country to rise up, get it's act together, industrialized and develop, this will help galvanize the others and carry the other counted along.