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It really pains to see this picture!!
It really pains to see this picture!!
What this airport could have been or SHOULD have been if not for the absolutely pathetic professionalism or complete lack of it on part of the authorities. That second runway, if just 15-20m further away from the first one could have been used as well for simultaneously operations making this a proper two runway airport. Really pains to see or think about that mismanagement. What a beautiful airport this is, the first proper modern airport i would say, only if we hadn't screwed up that one aspect!![]()
It can still be done...just expand the second runway to its extreme by 20 meters, and narrow it down from the other side...Yes it need some more area to be included in the Isb airport, all along the runway. But I think it can be done.
Theoretically it can be!!It can still be done...just expand the second runway to its extreme by 20 meters, and narrow it down from the other side...Yes it need some more area to be included in the Isb airport, all along the runway. But I think it can be done.
Its not mismanagement or pathetic professionalism man, In fact two two runways which you and some other guys are talking about are not for two parallel landing and takeoffs. out of these two one is main runway, whereas the inner runway is emergency runway which will only be used in case of maintenance of main runway or something wrong happening on main runway. And the second runway for this airport will be situated on other side of terminal and this is exactly what the master plan says for this airport. And for your kind information land acquisition is already started for the second runway so whenever need arises for second runway they will construct it on its mentioned location.It really pains to see this picture!!
What this airport could have been or SHOULD have been if not for the absolutely pathetic professionalism or complete lack of it on part of the authorities. That second runway, if just 15-20m further away from the first one could have been used as well for simultaneously operations making this a proper two runway airport. Really pains to see or think about that mismanagement. What a beautiful airport this is, the first proper modern airport i would say, only if we hadn't screwed up that one aspect!![]()
Sir they made this change to what the want to call that other runway once the screw up was identified. If you go to earlier documents regarding the airport it was always supposed to be a dual runway airport with both in simultaneous operations. They messed up, now they want more money for more land to construct what they call a THIRD runway.Its not mismanagement or pathetic professionalism man, In fact two two runways which you and some other guys are talking about are not for two parallel landing and takeoffs. out of these two one is main runway, whereas the inner runway is emergency runway which will only be used in case of maintenance of main runway or something wrong happening on main runway. And the second runway for this airport will be situated on other side of terminal and this is exactly what the master plan says for this airport. And for your kind information land acquisition is already started for the second runway so whenever need arises for second runway they will construct it on its mentioned location.
Regards,
Arslan sb. the original render is here with attached in which you can clearly see the two runways on opposite direction of terminal building. What they changed later on only the terminal building design which is also can see in the second pic. Hope now you will understand.Sir they made this change to what the want to call that other runway once the screw up was identified. If you go to earlier documents regarding the airport it was always supposed to be a dual runway airport with both in simultaneous operations. They messed up, now they want more money for more land to construct what they call a THIRD runway.
Thank you for sharing the details sir, i am sorry but it seems that i have not managed to make my point clear here. The thing is not that i hate it because it will have a single runway (that can be used at one time) but because it is this way ONLY because we messed up on such basic thing. We know that these two runways at Islamabad cannot be operated simultaneously not because of wind shear, turbulence, downdraft, crosswinds or thunderstorm but because the planers and designers FORGOT that there should be some 100m meter of extra space between them to make it happen. They had the land, the had the space and it was just miscalculation. It is more like that Saouth African defeat in world cup's rain effected match where they miscalculated the D/L target and played the last ball with a dead bat for a stop thinking they have won. We did the same. No we can present as many reasons as we want but the fact will remain that the two runways were build a 100m too close for them to be used together. JUST A HUNDRED METERS SIR! That is incompetence as far as i can see.@Arsalan
This is what I found based on my uninformed google search. I'm sure people more familiar with the field can better explain the pros and cons of the decision to maintain a 1.5KM spacing:
Safety-Related Issues Affecting Independent Approaches to Closely-Spaced Parallel Instrument Runways
Independent operations on closely-spaced parallel runways are significantly safety critical and should be used only after a proper risk assessment has been undertaken. In this process, the issues listed below, which are contained in ICAO Doc 9643 Manual on Simultaneous Operations on Parallel or near parallel Instrument Runways (SOIR), should be considered:
a) weather limitations — independent instrument approaches to parallel runways spaced by less than 1,525 m but not less than 1,035 m between centre lines should, as prescribed by the appropriate ATS authority, be suspended under certain adverse weather conditions including windshear, turbulence, downdrafts, crosswind and severe weather such as thunderstorms, which might increase ILS localiser deviations to the extent that safety may be impaired and/or an unacceptable number of deviation alerts would be generated;
http://www.skybrary.aero/index.php/Parallel_Runway_Operation
Thanks for sharing this. Can you confirm if the first image (the one with run way on both sides of terminal) is not that initial shelved plan that was put on hold due to other concerns of military quite a few years back? From what little i know, ever since this current airport started the idea was of the similar shape and layout airport as we see today with the provision of an EXTRA TERMINAL in future, the one they are now asking to build right away so that that runway can be used.Arslan sb. the original render is here with attached in which you can clearly see the two runways on opposite direction of terminal building. What they changed later on only the terminal building design which is also can see in the second pic. Hope now you will understand.
Bro why people asking here this is an old design i think no Pakistani airport is in comparison with new islamabad air port.i think it will be a state of the art airport. Why they are comparing this with the rich gulf airports. We are so happy and excited with the pics of NIIA