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Melby, the implication here is not valid. This is reference to military equipment.

Mishra Ji ....
I am giving an example.........if chinese products are that bad......why use them.

They are cheap.....and they perform the work they are suppose to. It implies to the military equipment as well with much better quality offcourse.:rolleyes:
 
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Kev lin
IPFriendship if this is your debut at PFF,I dont think it's a good one. Yes the title of the original thread is laughable since Robin looks callow and without any idea about India. but to my astonishment where did you pick up a world's common view over Chinese quality

Dear Kev lin how can it be a good one when the intention of the topic is to start a flame bait... How about a thread by Indians claiming "American, Israelie and Russian weapons offered to Indians, show it to the Pakistanis"..As you said the original thread is highly laughable...

Lol, bro I study International management (major in US University) and I don't need you or others telling me about Quality control of China and Japan, I live in US and mostly all the products I own are "Made in China". And I also never had any problems with them, China doesn't have poor quality products (In the past they might), and recently they have been improving substantially you should pick up Beijing Review in your school if they carry it and other US magazines it talks alot of China' products and developments, they might not be up to tech specs with the westerners' but they do produce good products, "that get the job done". Hence, why China' is sufficient in designing and building it's own ships, etc. And no not everything China has is reversed engineered, take the JH-7 for example and their FBC-1 trainer, and their subs, etc.

LoL bro International business??/// you know what whenever Sony or some company setd up its line in China they will bring along with them several American and Japanese supervisors with them.. do you know why this is to maintain quality control and to monitor the Chinese workers.....I wonder what kind of business education you had had.. may be why dont ya go ask your Prof's regarding China's quality control....

Being a so called democracy doesn't prove anything, your own Govt. asked DRDO to get outside help on the tank so whats the point of questioning if you don't move to heed requests. If JF-17 was flawed it would be where LCA is and it wouldn't have been making turns and twists once it rolled out the factory, about AK well their is going to be AKII we are in close cooperation with GIAT to produce armour for the tank and who knows what other developments will be made Engine and other optics (reported that it might come from Thales) but at least it's not where Arjun is, yes J-10 did crash once but that was years ago, and it was reported on Chinese media

The ponit is you dont have a reliable supplier except for China... As far as flaws are concerned..How can you admit flaws with the only design you are ending up with....Heck even Chinese did not wnat to do anything with your fighter and the members here start claiming that it is the foremost fighter design of the century.

As far as AArjun is concerned.. we have been able to sucessfully design a western MBT .. Have you read Zraver's post....124 have been stated for production and will role out.......So you dont have anything to talk about Arjun

lol, what a moronic comment last time I checked Pakistan fought 3 wars with it's own free will not for China, lol, learn your history "son" Pakistan also has friends to supply her China, and ME nations boasting about your supply lines is nothing. Hell, we even have tribal s making RPGs and bullets, rifles and hand guns existing and custom designed, which are also exported outside according to IDEAs '06, they earned about $13-16 million dollars a year, lol.

Wo Wo I am impressed by the list of your allies.....ME nations eh he he he... whos the house of Saudi? well the greatest stupids on earth.. even several of our country members have agreeed with this for the past years. then who..UAE,OMAN.. well werent they one who were fermenting the Baloch insurgency in Balochistan.. well for Iran I needn't comment....As far as Jordan and Egypt go both are responsible powers there and both have coordial relationship with us.. As far as the sole military power there. Israell wel arent they supposed to be on a honeymoon with us...So now where are your ME allies....We have Iran Egypt Jordan Israel... Our engineers and doctors are literally run Saudi....Rest of the worl calls us an upcoming power(I dont care what Pakistanis and Chinese think).. US is fast becoming our allie... Russians have stood by us in all wheathers...even the current Afghan government is lour allie lol....Brother we are winning friends on a daily basis...Heck even China does not take a conflicting stand against us nowadays

Since, you talking about Pawns we can then say India is just a pawn in US hands to use against China...see I don't want to get involved in these childish arguments but talk with facts, etc. Your making comments like I used to make when I was 16 years old that was like 6 years ago for me, l

No brother we dont follow what the US says.. as simple as that...US need s to have a developing power with one sixth of the worlds population as its ally..If US dosen't want us they are free to go....Every major US corporation has a RandD lab here..what about China do they have any R and D lab in your country....
 
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LoL bro International business??/// you know what whenever Sony or some company setd up its line in China they will bring along with them several American and Japanese supervisors with them.. do you know why this is to maintain quality control and to monitor the Chinese workers.....I wonder what kind of business education you had had.. may be why dont ya go ask your Prof's regarding China's quality control....

LOL, you more stupid then I thought:

China Economic Review (Oct 2006) says,

"Stringer and acting Sony China chairman Shizuo Takashino hope to install a Chinese management team to oversee the technology company's operations in the country."


I you had any idea of business and how they work without yapping you would know that even for quality control in foreign countries it's best to hire people of that nation so their isn't any break down or in other words language barriers. As I said go pick up Bejiing Review if your school can afford it :lol:

Every business has Internal, Exeternal system (Products called back for defects) where they check products before they are shipped to the customers. Then their is appraisal system where their is internal inspectors of the company to check products, and then prevention system where workers are trained for quality purposes.

With your kind of thinking I hope your not in business, and now I know why DRDO management ended up the way it did, LOL.

The ponit is you dont have a reliable supplier except for China... As far as flaws are concerned..How can you admit flaws with the only design you are ending up with....Heck even Chinese did not wnat to do anything with your fighter and the members here start claiming that it is the foremost fighter design of the century.

Your ingornore is bliss. Just recently Aziz went to China to sign some development projects (Infracture, investing). In the artcile it said that China will get some as well from the next order, lol (You can dig up the thread/post in the forum). We just don't have China we have France as well and soon German will open up to us if we get their U-boat they are trying to sell to us, we have Turkey which we have signed MoU's with, South Africa is also a weapons supplier to us, I suggest you go and learn before posting non-sense.

And again what do you base your claims on China doesn't want anything to do with the fighter? Give me facts.

As far as AArjun is concerned.. we have been able to sucessfully design a western MBT .. Have you read Zraver's post....124 have been stated for production and will role out.......So you dont have anything to talk about Arjun

124? lol, and you ordering about a thousand T-90S from Russia including in kits to build at home. And our of the 124 how many have been build so far a measly 14-24, lol. I have read his posts but I have read other tankers reports as well.

Wo Wo I am impressed by the list of your allies.....ME nations eh he he he... whos the house of Saudi? well the greatest stupids on earth.. even several of our country members have agreeed with this for the past years. then who..UAE,OMAN.. well werent they one who were fermenting the Baloch insurgency in Balochistan.. well for Iran I needn't comment....As far as Jordan and Egypt go both are responsible powers there and both have coordial relationship with us.. As far as the sole military power there. Israell wel arent they supposed to be on a honeymoon with us...So now where are your ME allies....We have Iran Egypt Jordan Israel... Our engineers and doctors are literally run Saudi....Rest of the worl calls us an upcoming power(I dont care what Pakistanis and Chinese think).. US is fast becoming our allie... Russians have stood by us in all wheathers...even the current Afghan government is lour allie lol....Brother we are winning friends on a daily basis...Heck even China does not take a conflicting stand against us nowadays

That is the most stupid post I have seen in this forum, you run KSA, LOL, last time I checked it were people along with others working in poor conditions to make a lousy buck, they treat you guyies like trash over their even you govt. has complained and KSA still hasn't done anything, lol, and you run KSA unless your talking about the slums you do run those, lol. First before commenting on UAE and Oman learn who the suppliers were and who we have deals with. What does Israel have to do with allies, you think sending below wage workers will make them shift loyalties, rofl. Afghan allies, yeah those than scream themselves make friends with those that scream, non-sense, lol.

Your a joke my friend and joke.

Super-power? When was the last time super-powers told other nations to adopt their kids, lol.

No brother we dont follow what the US says.. as simple as that...US need s to have a developing power with one sixth of the worlds population as its ally..If US dosen't want us they are free to go....Every major US corporation has a RandD lab here..what about China do they have any R and D lab in your country....

What difference does it make? If they have a lab or not or US has labs in India, heck US has R&D labs in China as well, just google it.
 
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Super-power? When was the last time super-powers told other nations to adopt their kids, lol.

When was the last time India told other nations to adopt their kids??

And when you do post the article here...READ through it sniperji, the article and title are different.
 
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What difference does it make? If they have a lab or not or US has labs in India, heck US has R&D labs in China as well, just google it.

hE HE .. LOL man you give me giggles . China has labs so what are Pakistanis employed there.. he he
I wonder why Pakistanis always talk about China and crow about it when Chinese themselves dont do it .. Is'nt this called being a proxy,, he he lol
What abut you great country .... he he .....Your country can't even stand upto our intellectual powers..
Lol bro you claim to be in US right .. When was the last time you could find a Pakistani studying in a Top engineering department in the US lol.. could be counted.. You can find only Chinese and Indians... They dont even give you aid and admissions cause you are not upto the mark...
Now dont' start off with India has a billion population and crap ... Microsoft, google, cisco, IBM, GE or for that matter any MNC would not set lab for the reason of billion people....
NEXT TIME u want to crowe .. crowe about your countries achievement and not someone elses.......In India if anyone does that we say shame on them
We dont crowe about US's achievement or Russia's achievement....we are propud of ourselves ....That is called self pride.. I would have appriciated had you talked about you country's triumph....

That is the most stupid post I have seen in this forum, you run KSA, LOL, last time I checked it were people along with others working in poor conditions to make a lousy buck, they treat you guyies like trash over their even you govt. has complained and KSA still hasn't done anything, lol, and you run KSA unless your talking about the slums you do run those, lol. First before commenting on UAE and Oman learn who the suppliers were and who we have deals with. What does Israel have to do with allies, you think sending below wage workers will make them shift loyalties, rofl. Afghan allies, yeah those than scream themselves make friends with those that scream, non-sense, lol.

Your a joke my friend and joke.

Super-power? When was the last time super-powers told other nations to adopt their kids, lol.

Ahem Ahem as if Pakistanis are the CEO's in KSA.. heck they are alos manual labour s and you can find them in hordes.. Now the diffeerence being that apart for those manual labours we have doctors and several engineers in that country.. Heck several executives there are Indians and several members of this forum had previousle stated this....
our ally KSA does not have any animosities with us and share friendly relations with us.. and I am literally impressed by you ME allies.. wo KSA.. Take it face value or not UAE and Oman dont consider Balochistan to be a part of Pakistan and this was indicated by several Pakistani members in this forum...Other than China you dont have any allly that you could be proud of...
Look at us... we have allies all ocver the worlsd and all major powers... We won them literally .. now how about you.... Heck you have been loosing allies steadily .. heck even US will trash u once the wot is over....Name any region we have stable and powerful allies.....Some even offering their bases to us...

As far as the status of super power .. we dont claim that we are super powers all we claim is that we an upcoming regional power.. The world accepts that and recognises that.. Educated countries recognise that . I cannot answer for someone who is burning inside stomach because we are developing .. h eh eh he

Let the babies be adopted rather than be educated or brought up into radicals and terriorists.. Wasn't there a video showing a young twelve year old kid cutting someones head...we' d rather dont want it to happen

124? lol, and you ordering about a thousand T-90S from Russia including in kits to build at home. And our of the 124 how many have been build so far a measly 14-24, lol. I have read his posts but I have read other tankers reports as well.
This has been dicussed to death... Arjun is a Western design based MBT and Indian army has to shift its entire doctrine .. so it wil take its time.....We can afford to wait as long as we are fighting you

As I said go pick up Bejiing Review if your school can afford it
I study in one of the top engineering campuses in India.. Dont even think about comparing our infrastructure even to the best of yours.. phew lol about not being able to afford.. Is any one of ur pakistani University plannig to launch a satellite.. we we are in the process of designing one for our university....Heck we even have German students on exchange here ..


You know what we are happy as long as you recieve weapons form China...Before atleast you had good American weapons like f 16 or the infamous patton which were a challenge to us.. Now we dont even have that problem ... well keep on buying... and have fun

Look this thread could have started off by the simple headline .. look at chinese weapons insted of pulling india into it......
 
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I personally have some reservations on what indopak freidship says, about colleges et al but this one i agree with,

another thing the perception of indopak of pakistanis not being in high end places in Us is wrong, let me put it in simple way those who works outside, very few looks genuinely to their own countries. If you think what we have achieved today is due to the NRI phenomenon is worst at its best.

and indopak stop boasting about things for heavens sake!!
UAE is not pakistans ally? whos FUNDING THE KASHMIR WAR FOR 60 YEARS? China? dream on!!

Read benajir bhuttos interview on kargil war and money in mango cartoons!!

Look this thread could have started off by the simple headline .. look at chinese weapons insted of pulling india into it......

I agree with this period.

I'd rather say this thread has reached kiddish level, mods should do some cleaning and change the title and tell everyone to stick to the topic....2 cents.
 
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hE HE .. LOL man you give me giggles . China has labs so what are Pakistanis employed there.. he he

Did I say Pakstani's are employes their? You need to learn how to read a little better considering your going to a so called top university.

I wonder why Pakistanis always talk about China and crow about it when Chinese themselves dont do it .. Is'nt this called being a proxy,, he he lol What abut you great country .... he he .....Your country can't even stand upto our intellectual powers..

Intellectual power? Lol, yes we can't stand up to it, cause we don't have as many failures' as your have, even your own Govt. officials call DRDO a failure.

Lol bro you claim to be in US right .. When was the last time you could find a Pakistani studying in a Top engineering department in the US lol.. could be counted.. You can find only Chinese and Indians... They dont even give you aid and admissions cause you are not upto the mark...

lol, what a stupid post considering you haven't even been to the US. What are you basing your claims on? No facts besides blank shouting. Even ask webmaster since he lives in the US and a Pakistani how many tech students their are considering he's also working in aeronautics.

Link that talks about program

Then you can search on your own about the Pakistan-US Science and technology cooperative program. And were in the process of linking our Universities with Sweden, and they are also building tech Universities along with South Korea.

Now dont' start off with India has a billion population and crap ... Microsoft, google, cisco, IBM, GE or for that matter any MNC would not set lab for the reason of billion people....
NEXT TIME u want to crowe .. crowe about your countries achievement and not someone elses.......In India if anyone does that we say shame on them
We dont crowe about US's achievement or Russia's achievement....we are propud of ourselves ....That is called self pride.. I would have appriciated had you talked about you country's triumph....

ROFL, trust me I have seen Indian's on this forum and others boasting about Russia, etc, and getting call centers from overseas. Self-pride my foot. Everytime I call those companies you mentioned above I get transfered to call centers, study in engineering and end up in a cubical.

And "Son" we boast about our achievemnts as well, again you have nothing to show here, just go to Pakdef.info and look at the E-reports made by military specialists and see what we have produced.

Ahem Ahem as if Pakistanis are the CEO's in KSA.. heck they are alos manual labour s and you can find them in hordes.. Now the diffeerence being that apart for those manual labours we have doctors and several engineers in that country.. Heck several executives there are Indians and several members of this forum had previousle stated this....

And Pakistan doesn't have Engineers/Doctors, lol, we have a program with KSA on this as well. Heck the are Pakistani's who own ship yards as well in some GCC countries (one example the coast guard boats we getting), the fiber glass, etc are owned by Pakistani's. Heck we have Pakistani's who also served in high executives positions (Aziz is just one of them).

our ally KSA does not have any animosities with us and share friendly relations with us.. and I am literally impressed by you ME allies.. wo KSA.. Take it face value or not UAE and Oman dont consider Balochistan to be a part of Pakistan and this was indicated by several Pakistani members in this forum...Other than China you dont have any allly that you could be proud of...
Look at us... we have allies all ocver the worlsd and all major powers... We won them literally .. now how about you.... Heck you have been loosing allies steadily .. heck even US will trash u once the wot is over....Name any region we have stable and powerful allies.....Some even offering their bases to us...

Lol, I have answered that useless questions many times, go and learn about Pakistani relations with other Asia and European countries, etc (including those names I mentioned), your still basing claims on no hard facts but talking rubbish like you are. US trashes anyone once they get what they want, besides we are getting alot of toys as well and upgrades to our hardware after sancations were lifted our Army, Navy and Air Force are in a major program of upgradtion up to 2019. Europeans are also once of our suppliers we were also offered Rafales and Eurofighters but we haven't decided on them as of yet, so our options are also open, go learn "son".

As far as the status of super power .. we dont claim that we are super powers all we claim is that we an upcoming regional power.. The world accepts that and recognises that.. Educated countries recognise that . I cannot answer for someone who is burning inside stomach because we are developing .. h eh eh he

I don't care where India stands super power or not, lol, I could care less no Pakistani cares. "Burning stomach" rofl, now your giving me laughs. Heck even your politicans boast about super power status and then turn around and tell EU to adopt kids.

Let the babies be adopted rather than be educated or brought up into radicals and terriorists.. Wasn't there a video showing a young twelve year old kid cutting someones head...we' d rather dont want it to happen



This has been dicussed to death... Arjun is a Western design based MBT and Indian army has to shift its entire doctrine .. so it wil take its time.....We can afford to wait as long as we are fighting you

Shift doctrine, lol, and you still buy Russian 1-90S up to a thousand? :lol:

I study in one of the top engineering campuses in India.. Dont even think about comparing our infrastructure even to the best of yours.. phew lol about not being able to afford.. Is any one of ur pakistani University plannig to launch a satellite.. we we are in the process of designing one for our university....Heck we even have German students on exchange here ..

lol, our universities are linked to the SPARCO program in Pakistan, and the organization pulls students through this link. Including China's univerities which are part of SPARCO (Link), so theirs no point of boasting. Comparing who's comparing it's only you who's comaring without knowing anything about Pakistan Unviersities, show's who's ranting now.

And "Son", I don't study in Pakistan and know its infratcure you will have to ask those that went their, but I have read about links of universities in and out of Pakistan, I have Pakistani exchange students working in the science field here in my school as well, etc, and we have sent students their as well my school is linked to 1 tech univeristy in Lahore the other in Islamabad, and my in field Lahore University in Management so I don't see what your boasting on about.

You know what we are happy as long as you recieve weapons form China...Before atleast you had good American weapons like f 16 or the infamous patton which were a challenge to us.. Now we dont even have that problem ... well keep on buying... and have fun

Shows how much you know, we still have deals going on to upgrade and buy new planes from US, total we should have about 60-70 F-16s MLU3 (From Turkey) and new Block 50+ from US with an option for another additional 18 when we choose, we have deals going on like the OPH class ships from USN, and other heli's and Anti-tank, etc, and AWACS from Sweden and China, and other tank development agreements with France. You have alot to learn before you talk.

What makes you think the planes even we get from China will have just Chinese tech, even Indian's here will tell you PAF has said many times that it will get western input in their planes.

Look this thread could have started off by the simple headline .. look at chinese weapons insted of pulling india into it.

Well, its you who started ranting and disrepecting Chinese members, and you started compaing their Quality with yours, and I have seen Indian' products and they aren't up to stanards either that are beign sold in the US, me saying this wouldn't mean anything, just come here and you will see with your own eyes, or ask other Pakistani members here living in the US or Canada.

Whats funny you haven't even challeneged by previous posts instead rant on about new things, are so called engineers suppost to do that?
 
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hE HE .. LOL man you give me giggles . China has labs so what are Pakistanis employed there.. he he
I wonder why Pakistanis always talk about China and crow about it when Chinese themselves dont do it .. Is'nt this called being a proxy,, he he lol
What abut you great country .... he he .....Your country can't even stand upto our intellectual powers..
Lol bro you claim to be in US right .. When was the last time you could find a Pakistani studying in a Top engineering department in the US lol.. could be counted.. You can find only Chinese and Indians... They dont even give you aid and admissions cause you are not upto the mark...
Now dont' start off with India has a billion population and crap ... Microsoft, google, cisco, IBM, GE or for that matter any MNC would not set lab for the reason of billion people....
NEXT TIME u want to crowe .. crowe about your countries achievement and not someone elses.......In India if anyone does that we say shame on them
We dont crowe about US's achievement or Russia's achievement....we are propud of ourselves ....That is called self pride.. I would have appriciated had you talked about you country's triumph....



Ahem Ahem as if Pakistanis are the CEO's in KSA.. heck they are alos manual labour s and you can find them in hordes.. Now the diffeerence being that apart for those manual labours we have doctors and several engineers in that country.. Heck several executives there are Indians and several members of this forum had previousle stated this....
our ally KSA does not have any animosities with us and share friendly relations with us.. and I am literally impressed by you ME allies.. wo KSA.. Take it face value or not UAE and Oman dont consider Balochistan to be a part of Pakistan and this was indicated by several Pakistani members in this forum...Other than China you dont have any allly that you could be proud of...
Look at us... we have allies all ocver the worlsd and all major powers... We won them literally .. now how about you.... Heck you have been loosing allies steadily .. heck even US will trash u once the wot is over....Name any region we have stable and powerful allies.....Some even offering their bases to us...

As far as the status of super power .. we dont claim that we are super powers all we claim is that we an upcoming regional power.. The world accepts that and recognises that.. Educated countries recognise that . I cannot answer for someone who is burning inside stomach because we are developing .. h eh eh he

Let the babies be adopted rather than be educated or brought up into radicals and terriorists.. Wasn't there a video showing a young twelve year old kid cutting someones head...we' d rather dont want it to happen


This has been dicussed to death... Arjun is a Western design based MBT and Indian army has to shift its entire doctrine .. so it wil take its time.....We can afford to wait as long as we are fighting you


I study in one of the top engineering campuses in India.. Dont even think about comparing our infrastructure even to the best of yours.. phew lol about not being able to afford.. Is any one of ur pakistani University plannig to launch a satellite.. we we are in the process of designing one for our university....Heck we even have German students on exchange here ..


You know what we are happy as long as you recieve weapons form China...Before atleast you had good American weapons like f 16 or the infamous patton which were a challenge to us.. Now we dont even have that problem ... well keep on buying... and have fun

Look this thread could have started off by the simple headline .. look at chinese weapons insted of pulling india into it......

Dude I think you should look around before being so cocky.


Saudia Arabia working on secret nuclear program with Pakistan help - report
http://www.forbes.com/finance/feeds/afx/2006/03/28/afx2629000.html

Saudi-Pak Bank joins MCB’s M-NET switch

LAHORE: Saudi-Pak Commercial Bank Limited became a member of the MCB M-NET switch family after signing an agreement at Muslim commercial Bank, Principal Office, Karachi, a press release said on Friday. It said the alliance will enable customers of Saudi-Pak Commercial Bank to use ATM facilities offered by MCB and other M-NET partner banks. MCB Senior Vice President Ali Munir and Saudi-Pak Commercial Bank President and CEO Syed Hassan Iktedar signed the agreement. MCB EVP (Consumer Banking) Aarij Ali, MCB SVP (IT) Javed Adhi, EVP/Divisional Head IT Mahmood Siddique, Saudi-Pak Commercial Bank VP (ATM and E-Banking) Ammar Bin Mujeeb were also present on the occasion. —PR
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_26-7-2003_pg7_45



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ITCN Saudi Arabia expo gives boost to software companies

Staff Report

ISLAMABAD: Wavetech, a leading local software company has appointed Al-Suboha Modern Trading Est., Al-Khobar-Saudi Arabia as its authorised dealer in Saudi Arabia.

Wavetech has informed the Pakistan Software Export Board (PSEB), the government body for the promotion of software exports, which had sent a delegation of 10 top-notch software companies under Arif Rizvi, Manager International Marketing, for participation in the ITCN Saudi Arabia exhibition, Dammam, according to an official PSEB statement.

The objective was to introduce the technical expertise and prowess of the Pakistani software industry to the international community and to help local companies establish links with potential foreign clients in the growing IT market of the Middle East.

Ziauddin Siddiqui, marketing manager of IS0-9001 certified company Wavetech (Private) Limited, informed PSEB “they have signed an agreement with Al-Suboha Modern Trading Est., Al-Khobar, Saudi Arabia, for representing Wavetech products in Saudi Arabia and they are now our authorised distributors in Saudi Arabia’s eastern province.”

Already, Kewan Khawaja, CEO, Techlogix, a leading local software firm, has informed PSEB it has signed a software support contract with National Metal Manufacturing and Casting Company, Jubail, Saudi Arabia. A team of developers would be providing software maintenance for their in-house ERP suite of applications.

Aamer Manzoor, VP Corporate Services, Cybersoft Technologies, said his company had recently signed a contract with Detecon Al Saudia Company Limited, a subsidiary of Deutsche Telekom that they met in Saudi Arabia during the ITCN expo.
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_8-11-2002_pg5_5

Pakistan is still in the process of developing its own Satellite Launch Vehicle (SLV). Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan, the father of Pakistan's nuclear program, announced in March 2001 that Pakistani scientists were in the process of building the country's first SLV and that the project had been assigned to SUPARCO, Pakistan's national space agency, which also built the Badr satellites.[1] According to Dr. Abdul Majid, chairman of SUPARCO, Pakistan envisaged a low-cost SLV in order to launch lightweight satellites into low-earth orbits.[2] Dr. Khan also cited the fact that India had made rapid strides in the fields of SLV and satellite manufacture as another motivation for developing an indigenous launch capability.[1] According to an Islamabad news source, the SLV would be derived from an already available missile launching system, which may be an indication that technologies acquired for the ballistic missile program would eventually be used to develop an SLV.[2,3] All the experiments necessary to ready the SLV for a complete flight test have not been completed, although Pakistani scientists have tested three of the four stages.[2]

In March 2005, President Pervez Musharaff authorized renewed research and development on an indigenous launch capability, which would be able to orbit a planned domestically built satellite, the Paksat-IR.[4] However, no specific completion date of this project is available, and reports remain unclear as to whether President Musharaff is referring to continuation of the former SLV program or a new launch vehicle project. The country's indigenously manufactured communications satellites Badr-1 and Badr-B were launched on a Chinese Long March rocket in 1990 and a Russian Zenit-2 rocket from Kazakhstan in December 2001, respectively.[5,6]

Launch map
SUPARCO's headquarters are located in Karachi. Its space launch facilities are located in southern Pakistan at Sonmiani Beach on the Arabian Sea.[7] However, SUPARCO has only launched sounding rockets from this site, referred to as the Flight Test Range (FTR).[7] These facilities are shared with the Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission's National Defence Complex, which uses the site to flight-test solid-fueled ballistic missiles.[8] SUPARCO has a ground station near Islamabad and telemetry, tracking, and control stations located at Sonmiani Beach, Karachi, and Lahore.[9]
http://cns.miis.edu/research/space/pakistan/launch.htm

Pakistan Wins the GSM Award in Barcelona!
http://www.netxpress.com.pk/Bandwidth/article.asp?use=Pakistan Wins the GSM Award in Barcelona!

19-year-old from Lahore, Pakistan, Wins First Berklee College of Music Steve Vai Online Scholarship

If you have something that must be said, it will be heard. The competition winner, Arooj Aftab, beat the odds to have that something said. And heard. Aftab lives in the northern Pakistani city of Lahore, is only 19, is self-taught, and is a Muslim woman raised and living in a traditional environment
http://www.modernguitars.com/archives/000221.html

Pakistani Girl Wins Indian’s Scholarship in US
via www.jg-tc.com

Graduate Mahwish Yousaf, whose family still has ties to the Punjab city of Lahore, became the first recipient of the S. L. Nanda Math and Science Scholarship in May. This award was established in memory of Sneh Nanda of Charleston, who was born in Lahore when it was part of the British ruled Indian subcontinent. Yousaf, who was born in Ohio and whose family is Catholic, said the disputes of India and Pakistan have not been a big issue

9 Year Old Pakistani Girl Wonder Visits Microsoft, Charms Bill Gates
via seattlepi.nwsource.com

Arfa, a promising software programmer from Faisalabad, Pakistan, is believed to be the youngest Microsoft Certified Professional in the world. The designation, given to outside experts who prove their ability to work with Microsoft technologies, has also been achieved by some teenagers. She made an impression through a combination of charm, flattery and boldness uncommon for someone her age. For example, during Arfa's meeting with Gates, she presented him with a poem she wrote that celebrated his life story. But she also questioned him about what she perceived to be the relatively small proportion of women on the campus.

1st Locally Manufactured Environmentally Friendly Car Launched in Pakistan
via www.jang.com.pk

Indus Motor said the new Toyota ATLIS is the first locally manufactured vehicle with catalytic converter technology, which ensures cleaner exhaust emissions protecting the environment. ATLIS has an aluminium alloy 1800cc Twin Cam, VVT-I (Variable Valve Timing - Intelligent) engine, combining power with fuel efficiency. The high tech LED type rear combination of lights that have been provided are an advanced technological feature for Pakistan, it added. ATLIS also offers unique gate type gearshift and electronically controlled automatic transmission switch.

I could go on but hey I do have other threads to look through.....:lol:

Oh and one last thing get your satelite launched before boasting about it. Or should we wait 30 yrs for that as well? Those doctrinal changes are a real ***** huh?:lol:
 
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ahf_nuke1 yaar chal daru pite hain, idhar choor sniper or idnopak ko, salo ne dimag hi bigar diya apka :P

guys cut it, mods tell these guys to stick on topic, and i agree indopak is being a bit cocky.
 
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I hope people are reminded again that this is not some pathetic forum which tolerates personal attacks and purposely made bullshit to show the superiority while degrading other countries including Pakistan and India.

I hope during heated discussions people review their post before clicking the post button, and even if found something offensive to the other party, the post should be editted within 10 minutes or actions will be taken. Both members above who engaged in violating the forum rules have been temporary banned even after considering that both were tempted to be in such a position.

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Dear Kev lin how can it be a good one when the intention of the topic is to start a flame bait... How about a thread by Indians claiming "American, Israelie and Russian weapons offered to Indians, show it to the Pakistanis"..As you said the original thread is highly laughable...

Lad if you read carefully back to line 22 where I was telling Robin that Indians dont need our weapons coz they can buy superior ones from Russia and western countries, you will understand that I wouldn't like to see any of my compatriots crowing about here. we have been making great achievements but that's not for big talks. I only hope our missiles can drop accurately on our enemy's head if the day has to come.

I dont think it necessary for you to make further flame baits due to the laughable starting thread,you know it's not even a reasonable excuse. One of the important reason for which I keep hanging out here is most people would post their words with reliable source. so, take my advice and stop it here, I believe more research over Pakistan,China and your beloved country will help you think twice your post in this thread.

btw,Pakistan is not China's proxy, it might be inferior to your country for now but along the path to your success,they are sure to achieve their own. let's say time tells the best.

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Ahhh webby...i missed alot of fun:wall: .....some times i hate this moderation thing....kiddin:D
 
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Good you guys banned me ...again I didnt mean any personal offence to any one but if you point fingers toward any one of my people im not going to sit and watch ...N e ways ..lets go JOEY i will drink Pepsi you drink Daro ..lol ...thnx for offer :)
 
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I admire that. But reporting is an effective way to approach these kind of issues. Getting in to personal attacks and other bullshit switches the purpose of the forum. A place where you can flame, or a place where you can learn and find solutions.

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