Neighborhood First: EAM Jaishankar to visit Bangladesh next week

[Arthur]

Yes that should be like that. I also heard that our military actually don't open the secret about our artillery and logistics. For defense purpose they should do this.

Security around these installations has tightened manyfold. These days you can't enter a arty units premises if you are not a member of the unit or have a direct business.

Thanks for this part! So I assume that it will not be easy for others to dismantle us so easily as they always loudly bray.

Let them talk bro. Talking is easy, walking it isn't.

 

[bd_4_ever]

No, I was not talking about 1:1. But Bangladesh is long way behind to achieve even 1/3rd or 1/4th of the equipment of what India has to maintain a minimum credible deterrence against it. If we want to maintain even 1/4th of armor of India, still we need to maintain least 1000 Tanks. Below it, I do not think, Bangladesh will be able to withstand Indian armored advance. Same is true for all other equipment needed for land warfare. Every army equipment we have now need to increase at least a factor of 3. Then we can say, we have minimum equipment to withstand any hypothetical Indian military assault.

You dont need any minimum set of tanks, proportionate to enemy inventory, to tackle an aggression. In a country terrain like ours, the motto of winning a war is more or less comes down to one aspect: Agility. You need to be fast, hit and withdraw. Tank battles will not cut it in Bangladesh. Everyone pretty much knows that.

What we need, and probably we do have already, is better Anti-tank/Anti-armour weapons, smaller groups of soldiers who can reposition quickly, impeccable communication and a very well-trained snipers. For movement during a war time, we cant be using BTR-80s, Durjoys or MANs. They will be sitting duck to enemy Air Force who will probably take out our airfield as well within matter of hours. So our soldiers needs to swim, crawl, walk, run and climb (or anything physical) in order to be agile and always be in position where one needs to be. We have a rich history in guerrilla warfare and I am sure, we have built up on that over the years.

You see, you dont need all those fancy weapons to win a war. All you need is a good pull of the trigger and ensuring you hit who/what you target. Military coffins are always heavy to carry. Ask Vietnam, Afghanistan or even the 1971 'basket-case' Bangladesh.

 

[Aryan0395]

We have a rich history in guerrilla warfare and I am sure, we have built up on that over the years.

Yeah...but remember who trained your original Guerrilla warfare soldiers? Indian Army.
Also, watch this:-

We also know a thing or two about Guerrilla tactics and also about that terrain.

 

[VikingRaider]

Yeah...but remember who trained your original Guerrilla warfare soldiers? Indian Army.
Also, watch this:-

@Aryan0395 , That does not matter . In Mahabharata Dronachariya trained Arjuna , later Arjuna became superior to Dronachariya .

We also know a thing or two about Guerrilla tactics and also about that terrain.

So now you already know something !

 

[Aryan0395]

The moment these marsh dwellers step into the hilly jungles of NE, they will be like fish out of water and ready to be culled. Funny to read about them talk about agility and guerrilla warfare.. They won't last a day in the NE.

Classy case of student thinking he has more knowledge than his master.

That does not matter . In Mahabharata Dronachariya trained Arjuna , later Arjuna became superior to Dronachariya

Lol okay yeah, thats why hey concocted the whole story that Ashwathama is dead so Guru Dronacharya will lay down his weapon. if you are quoting from scripture then have its full knowledge in and out..

 

[VikingRaider]

Lol okay yeah, thats why hey concocted the whole story that Ashwathama is dead so Guru Dronacharya will lay down his weapon. if you are quoting from scripture then have its full knowledge in and out..

But but , if there is no Ashwathama still Arjuna is better than Drona , isn't it true ? ! Do you admit or not ?

 

[Aryan0395]

But but , if there is no Ashwathama still Arjuna is better than Drona , isn't it true ? ! Do you admit or not ?

I want whatever you are smoking, especially when Im under the weight of my never ending Master's assignments.
Now stop quoting with meaningless sentences.

 

[VikingRaider]

I want whatever you are smoking, especially when Im under the weight of my never ending Master's assignments.
Now stop quoting with meaningless sentences.

Lol

 

[Homo Sapiens]

You dont need any minimum set of tanks, proportionate to enemy inventory, to tackle an aggression. In a country terrain like ours, the motto of winning a war is more or less comes down to one aspect: Agility. You need to be fast, hit and withdraw. Tank battles will not cut it in Bangladesh. Everyone pretty much knows that.

What we need, and probably we do have already, is better Anti-tank/Anti-armour weapons, smaller groups of soldiers who can reposition quickly, impeccable communication and a very well-trained snipers. For movement during a war time, we cant be using BTR-80s, Durjoys or MANs. They will be sitting duck to enemy Air Force who will probably take out our airfield as well within matter of hours. So our soldiers needs to swim, crawl, walk, run and climb (or anything physical) in order to be agile and always be in position where one needs to be. We have a rich history in guerrilla warfare and I am sure, we have built up on that over the years.

You see, you dont need all those fancy weapons to win a war. All you need is a good pull of the trigger and ensuring you hit who/what you target. Military coffins are always heavy to carry. Ask Vietnam, Afghanistan or even the 1971 'basket-case' Bangladesh

I am not in favor to allow enemy to occupy my country and then figure out how we can make them suffer through guerilla warfare so that eventually they are forced to withdraw, which may or may not come, at the great expense of our people's life and properties. There is no heroism sacrificing millions of life and risking the destruction the motherland. Maintaining capable conventional armed forces is ultimately the cheaper option if we really have that danger perception. We need to maintain a sufficiently strong armed forces, so that enemy dare not to attack, or if attack, can be repulsed before it can causes great harm to our country. If we find intolerable to spend money on armed forces, then better to formulate our foreign policy in line of those of Bhutan. Our potential adversary will spare us, but we have to be ready to digest occasional insult and bullying, and have to prioritize their interest over our's. Ukraine has shown us, what happen when you keep your armed forces pathetic but goes against your powerful neighbor.

 

[bd_4_ever]

I am not in favor to allow enemy to occupy my country and then figure out how we can make them suffer through guerilla warfare so that eventually they are forced to withdraw, which may or may not come, at the great expense of our people's life and properties. There is no heroism sacrificing millions of life and risking the destruction the motherland. Maintaining capable conventional armed forces is ultimately the cheaper option if we really have that danger perception. We need to maintain a sufficiently strong armed forces, so that enemy dare not to attack, or if attack, can be repulsed before it can causes great harm to our country. If we find intolerable to spend money on armed forces, then better to formulate our foreign policy in line of those of Bhutan. Our potential adversary will spare us, but we have to be ready to digest occasional insult and bullying, and have to prioritize their interest over our's. Ukraine has shown us, what happen when you keep your armed forces pathetic but goes against your powerful neighbor.

I understand what you are saying. But, unfortunately our country doesn't work that way. People have the perception that defence spending is meaningless and could be better used elsewhere. In such a context, it is always going to be hard to maintain and larger armed forces with bigger spending. The govt. needs to answer for it and tbh, there is no pretext for that. We are not in a state of war.

So within those limitations, we need to do what suits us best. There's a reason why our who general military doctrine is based on defence, because we probably wont have the capacity to hold it at the border or even take it to the enemy land. Probably there will be a time when this scenario changes when the geo-politics in the region change but until then, what you are seeking probably wont happen unfortunately.

 

[namefield_empty]

^ First honest post in this thread by a Bangladeshi and that's the sign of a true patriot. I understand that there is a section in BD trying to foment fear and insecurity citing an imaginary threat, but never in my opinion will India adopt an agressive stance against Bangladesh unless they ask for it.

In any case, we all know what is Bangladesh's most potent weapon in the event of hostilities but no Bangladeshi having an ounce of self respect will spell it out here.

 

[Bilal9]

OK back to the topic,

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Foreign Secretary S Jaishankar, right, is welcomed at Dhaka.

DHAKA:
Foreign Secretary S Jaishankar today arrived in Dhaka on a day-long visit during which he will hold talks with Bangladesh's top leadership as part of his 'SAARC Yatra' to firm up India's ties with members of the grouping.

Bangladesh's Foreign Secretary Shahidul Haque received Mr Jaishankar at Hazrat Shahjalal International Airport.

After the talks at the foreign office, Mr Jaishankar will meet the Bangladeshi Foreign Minister, AH Mahmood Ali, and then call on Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina in the evening, a Foreign Ministry spokesman said.

Mr Jaishankar flew in Dhaka from Bhutan from where he began his 'SAARC Yatra' yesterday. He will go to Pakistan tomorrow and from there he will travel to Afghanistan.

His visit was first announced on February 13 when Prime Minister Narendra Modi called the heads of governments of the South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation nations just before the beginning of the ICC Cricket World Cup and said he would send soon his new foreign secretary on a 'SAARC Yatra'.

Bangladesh's foreign ministry officials earlier said the talks between the two foreign secretaries were expected to review the entire gamut of bilateral ties with an extra emphasis on the outstanding issues of Teesta Water deal and the Land Boundary Agreement.

Dhaka was expecting the Land Boundary Agreement to be ratified in the current session of Indian parliament as hinted by Indian officials.



During a recent visit here, West Bengal Chief Minister Mamata Banerjee said she would play a role in expediting the inking of the proposed Teesta Treaty.

Dhaka hopes Mr Modi to visit Bangladesh as soon as the long pending Land Boundary Agreement is ratified, enabling the two countries to swap the enclaves in each other's territories.

The officials said the top diplomats were also expected to discuss sub-regional connectivity and power trade issues as Dhaka, New Delhi, Kathmandu and Thimpu were engaged in a parallel exercise beyond the SAARC on the proposed SAARC transport agreement.

The SAARC nations collectively failed to ink any deal on transport agreement in the last year's summit in Kathmandu which prompted India to push ahead with the sub-regional connectivity arrangements with Bangladesh, Nepal and Bhutan to ensure seamless transit of vehicles among them.

I am not in favor to allow enemy to occupy my country and then figure out how we can make them suffer through guerilla warfare so that eventually they are forced to withdraw, which may or may not come, at the great expense of our people's life and properties. There is no heroism sacrificing millions of life and risking the destruction the motherland. Maintaining capable conventional armed forces is ultimately the cheaper option if we really have that danger perception. We need to maintain a sufficiently strong armed forces, so that enemy dare not to attack, or if attack, can be repulsed before it can causes great harm to our country. If we find intolerable to spend money on armed forces, then better to formulate our foreign policy in line of those of Bhutan. Our potential adversary will spare us, but we have to be ready to digest occasional insult and bullying, and have to prioritize their interest over our's. Ukraine has shown us, what happen when you keep your armed forces pathetic but goes against your powerful neighbor.

Very well said. Unfortunately we have too many fifth columnists and false-flagger Indians polluting this thread spreading blatant misinformation that is nowhere close to what Bangladeshi genuine opinion is.

 

[bluesky]

He will go to your Shonar Bangla as a courtesy trip after assuming charge as FM. Is that so difficult for a smarty pants to understand..

We understand the difficulties India is facing to keep the transport and communication linkup of NE with mainland India. But, is it alright that its Ministers and military generals keep on visiting BD to plead for a better connection? India should free the NE if it is unable to administer that backyard jungle.

 

[namefield_empty]

We understand the difficulties India is facing to keep the transport and communication linkup of NE with mainland India. But, is it alright that its Ministers and military generals keep on visiting BD to plead for a better connection? India should free the NE if it is unable to administer that backyard jungle.

Things Bangladeshis have to endure to have a glimmer of hope of getting an equitable share of Teesta water. You will be surprised at the number of concessions made by Hasina in the coming months, rest assured that you will get your due.