need to demand separate country ,muslims mistreated in India - Grand mufti of Kashmir

[protest]

And what are those favors?


Any law change for Muslims? Tripple talaq? psst! Muslims have one of the lowest divorce rates, and Tripple talaq will not be even half of it.


I guess you'll have to "edit" the constitution. Minority status is something given to the community. If it is right or wrong is another topic. I'm all up for equal status for every people in the land. Irrespective of religion and cast. But based on the economic state of the person/family. Again, is it possible?

Hazz subsidy, reservations for muslims etc. Uniform civil code is a must for India, that muslims have to cope with. Minority status is referred to a community whose voice is not being herad in a democracy for being small, and not to a community which is pampered to as a vote bank. Its time that community gets a reality check.

 

[Tom M]

Hazz subsidy, reservations for muslims etc. Uniform civil code is a must for India, that muslims have to cope with. Minority status is referred to a community whose voice is not being herad in a democracy for being small, and not to a community which is pampered to as a vote bank. Its time that community gets a reality check.

Subsidy based on Religion ????

Are you talking about India ????

 

[Sh@msu]

Because some guy's point out few isolated incidents of religious intolerance and lynching and generalize it over the entire 1.3 billion Indians.

Ironically in most of the cases, the victims and culprits maybe knowing each other for sometime and may be even having personal differences. Religious intolerance is just a means to get popular support among like minds while settling personal scores.

we can,because except some,almost all indians live in same condition.When you cook rice you check some part to check it out.you do not empty entire plate
And those few isolated incidents per percentage population is way too high

I did..during a political science project at university .

then may be data sample was not big enough,or may be you should re do it in real ground. The difference between westernized indian and hindustani indian is same as earth's north pole and south pole
Why do you think indians who go abroad are way too quick to adapt to western culture?

 

[Tom M]

we can,because except some,almost all indians live in same condition.When you cook rice you check some part to check it out.you do not empty entire plate
And those few isolated incidents per percentage population is way too high

Well how many incidents can you point out per year w.r.t 1.3 Billion ???

It will be a minuscule percentage of our entire population. I guess you don't know what you are talking about.

If with the same logic, we apply the frequency and magnitude of terror attacks in some of nations in our neighborhood, those nations should be labeled Terrorist States.

 

[protest]

Subsidy based on Religion ????

Are you talking about India ????

Read through my earlier posts, i wanted subsidy to be eliminated.

 

[Chhatrapati]

Hazz subsidy, reservations for muslims etc. Uniform civil code is a must for India, that muslims have to cope with. Minority status is referred to a community whose voice is not being herad in a democracy for being small, and not to a community which is pampered to as a vote bank. Its time that community gets a reality check.

Hajj subsidy? There shouldn't be a subsidy in the first place. Why the government showed it down? Governments do give subsidy to many pilgrimages. And Hajj is to be done when he/she is capable of doing it alone i.e when he/she has a sound economic condition.
The minority community is a community who is not up to the mark with the majority in numbers. India is not the only state who gives special reservation to the minority. Uniform civil code will not change anything. What do you think the uniform civil code is? Please tell me, and what special status do Muslims in India enjoy?

 

[protest]

Hajj subsidy? There shouldn't be a subsidy in the first place. Why the government showed it down? Governments do give subsidy to many pilgrimages. And Hajj is to be done when he/she is capable of doing it alone i.e when he/she has a sound economic condition.
The minority community is a community who is not up to the mark with the majority in numbers. India is not the only state who gives special reservation to the minority. Uniform civil code will not change anything. What do you think the uniform civil code is? Please tell me, and what special status do Muslims in India enjoy?

I am off to bed, lets debate it tomorrow. But I'll leave with one thought, if UCC is not going to matter, why object to it in the first place. I hope you read up on UCC as well.

What special status do Muslims enjoy? Why should they need a special status, why ask for reservations then?

 

[El Sidd]

Balkanised India will be a positive step towards human development in that country.

Its been reffered to as the USSR of the sub Continent.

Personally i will not favor another country based on Religion. We have two in the whole world and three is crowd as they say.

 

[Sh@msu]

Well how many incidents can you point out per year w.r.t 1.3 Billion ???

It will be a minuscule percentage of our entire population. I guess you don't know what you are talking about.

If with the same logic, we apply the frequency and magnitude of terror attacks in some of nations in our neighborhood, those nations should be labeled Terrorist States.

Come on man,"minuscule percentage"?do not make me laugh.
"how many incidents can you point out per year w.r.t 1.3 Billion" is a hypothetical question equivalent to "if you want to know my relation with Donald trump,come meet me at white house"

"Terrorist State"? I thought you have already did it ,after you do it once,re-accusing doesn't work now if i go by your logic, we apply the frequency and magnitude of attacks on minority in your country,we can conclusively come to conclusion that your country should be labelled terrorist and unsafe for minority

 

[Max]

Muslims should migrate to Southern bharat..

 

[Tom M]

Come on man,"minuscule percentage"?do not make me laugh.
"how many incidents can you point out per year w.r.t 1.3 Billion" is a hypothetical question equivalent to "if you want to know my relation with Donald trump,come meet me at white house"

"Terrorist State"? I thought you have already did it ,after you do it once,re-accusing doesn't work now if i go by your logic, we apply the frequency and magnitude of attacks on minority in your country,we can conclusively come to conclusion that your country should be labelled terrorist and unsafe for minority

One simple question. If India were so intolerant and unsafe for our minorities as you are claiming, just tell me how many minority members are crossing our borders as refugees due to persecution and seeking asylum with our neighbors every year ??????

I can point out the a number of cases of refugees from our neighborhood due to persecution. Can you point out any news about Indian refugees in recent history ????

Regarding your Trump comment, it doesn't deserve a reply.It's simply absurd.

 

[Sh@msu]

One simple question. If India were so intolerant and unsafe for our minorities as you are claiming, just tell me how many minority members are crossing our borders as refugees due to persecution and seeking asylum with our neighbors every year ??????

I can point out the a number of cases of refugees from our neighborhood due to persecution. Can you point out any news about Indian refugees in recent history ????

Regarding your Trump comment, it doesn't deserve a reply.It's simply absurd.

///Regarding your Trump comment, it doesn't deserve a reply.It's simply absurd///

come on pal,use your brain,it is absurd,that is why the word "equivalent" was used to show the relation with your absurd dialogue of "how many incidents can you point out per year w.r.t 1.3 Billion?"

/// One simple question. If India were so intolerant and unsafe for our minorities as you are claiming, just tell me how many minority members are crossing our borders as refugees due to persecution and seeking asylum with our neighbors every year ??????
I can point out the a number of cases of refugees from our neighborhood due to persecution. Can you point out any news about Indian refugees in recent history ???? ///

so so predictable,you should really come up with better question than that you know i mean i get so frustrated when i have to answer these questions of which answers can be easily figured out using google map.

If you are pointing to the particular situation in Myanmar,you should get a map and see what is rakhain state and where it is situated.All people are at one place.
Is this same in you country? and where is your most populous state headed by yogi situated?Where will they go exactly?
You should really study demographic density and geography before asking this kinda question.
Come on man,i expected a better fight,but you like others in your country seem way too predictable
You are making it too easy for a genius like me

 

[Tom M]

///Regarding your Trump comment, it doesn't deserve a reply.It's simply absurd///

come on pal,use your brain,it is absurd,that is why the word "equivalent" was used to show the relation with your absurd dialogue of "how many incidents can you point out per year w.r.t 1.3 Billion?"

/// One simple question. If India were so intolerant and unsafe for our minorities as you are claiming, just tell me how many minority members are crossing our borders as refugees due to persecution and seeking asylum with our neighbors every year ??????
I can point out the a number of cases of refugees from our neighborhood due to persecution. Can you point out any news about Indian refugees in recent history ???? ///

so so predictable,you should really come up with better question than that you know i mean i get so frustrated when i have to answer these questions of which answers can be easily figured out using google map.

If you are pointing to the particular situation in Myanmar,you should get a map and see what is rakhain state and where it is situated.All people are at one place.
Is this same in you country? and where is your most populous state headed by yogi situated?Where will they go exactly?
You should really study demographic density and geography before asking this kinda question.
Come on man,i expected a better fight,but you like others in your country seem way too predictable
You are making it too easy for a genius like me

Neither did I mentioned Myanmar nor Rakhain. While I was typing I was thinking about the religious minorities in Pakistan. And I guess you are pretty aware of the geography;

http://www.thesundayleader.lk/2017/02/12/no-escape-for-traumatised-pakistani-refugees-in-sri-lanka/

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1267469/distressed-pakistani-asylum-seekers-rough-sri-lanka/

http://www.ceylontoday.lk/print20170401CT20170630.php?id=20565

Well SL is not geographically connected to Pakistan, yet Pak refugees are still there, how come ??? This clearly show the desperation to escape persecution Mr. Genius.

 

[hussain0216]

The right wing Hinduism or any other religion is just a temporary affair and very weak compared to the pluralism existing within our society.

is this comedy hour?
you have a PM like Modi who rose on a wave of hindutva support built on the back of his links to massacre of indian muslims in Gujarat

You have CMs like Yogi who get elected even after calling for the rape of corpses

you are delusional if you do not see the hindutva fall if india

 

[Tom M]

is this comedy hour?
you have a PM like Modi who rose on a wave of hindutva support built on the back of his links to massacre of indian muslims in Gujarat

You have CMs like Yogi who get elected even after calling for the rape of corpses

you are delusional if you do not see the hindutva fall if india

P.M or C.M are not elected rather selected by the winning political party/alliance. Yes, they did won from their respective constituencies. But if you think it was because of the Hindutva, you guy's have gravely mistaken (Just like Operation Gibraltar) .

Hindu's and Hindutva concepts were always there in Indian society since 5000 years, yet have you ever thought why it took long 68 years after independence for the BJP to gain absolute power ???

It was not BJP's gain rather Congresses corruption over the years that forced Indian voters to look for alternative. Now if the BJP lead NDA government doesn't perform and become similarly corrupt down the road, they will also be shown the door in the same way within 2 or 3 terms max.

As long as people and parties are elected and not selected through a transparent democratic process, we are in a very good shape, all other things about India are your delusions or wishful thinking to be precise.