Need immigrants be grateful to USA?

[Kamikaze Pilot]

Need non-European immigrants be grateful to United Sates of America for granting resident-ship, property, livelihood, employment etc? Choose any one from the below alternatives.

• No, the land belongs to pre-Columbian civilizations
• Yes, at-least the thieves are sharing the booty stolen from pre-Columbian civilizations

Western historians may argue all those civilizations were confined to Mexico and there was none in the territory of what is now USA. But who knows the truth? Who knows whether there were some inhabitants in ‘USA’ before Anglo-Saxons arrived? What if the British destroyed their monuments, architecture and covered up evidence of any civilization.

 

[AUz]

Why should we be "thankful"?

We must see ourselves as every other American. When we become specially "thankful" for American state, then we automatically become "lesser" than other Americans.

Immigrants must learn the language, obey the law, and be loyal to U.S and work hard.

No need to be extra or specially thankful to the U.S government...

 

[elis]

Why to feel grateful? They make wars everywhere and create zionist Al Qaeda

Just purish their lands and be proud of it

Immigrants make the hardest work so they can do good jobs in offices

 

[KAL-EL]

 

[faithfulguy]

Need non-European immigrants be grateful to United Sates of America for granting resident-ship, property, livelihood, employment etc? Choose any one from the below alternatives.

• No, the land belongs to pre-Columbian civilizations
• Yes, at-least the thieves are sharing the booty stolen from pre-Columbian civilizations

Western historians may argue all those civilizations were confined to Mexico and there was none in the territory of what is now USA. But who knows the truth? Who knows whether there were some inhabitants in ‘USA’ before Anglo-Saxons arrived? What if the British destroyed their monuments, architecture and covered up evidence of any civilization.

Should India be grateful that Britain created India.

 

[elis]

Actually i'am taking advantage of the french welfare and i feel deeply satisfied

 

[Coltsfan]

Need non-European immigrants be grateful to United Sates of America for granting resident-ship, property, livelihood, employment etc? Choose any one from the below alternatives.

• No, the land belongs to pre-Columbian civilizations
• Yes, at-least the thieves are sharing the booty stolen from pre-Columbian civilizations

Western historians may argue all those civilizations were confined to Mexico and there was none in the territory of what is now USA. But who knows the truth? Who knows whether there were some inhabitants in ‘USA’ before Anglo-Saxons arrived? What if the British destroyed their monuments, architecture and covered up evidence of any civilization.

This is a pretty shitty question to be put up for vote.

1) It presents only two choices, both of which refer to pre Columbian civilizations which have nothing to do with present state USA.

2) USA is much more than a land-mass, obviously that is a concept OP is oblivious to.

 

[Obambam]

Expected to be as thankful as they are to the natives?

 

[Urbanized Greyhound]

The U.S technological prowess --basically the reason they are able to stand on every other nations shoulders today is roughly because of the mass immigration of German and Japanese scientists , technicians etc etc. after WW2 . Since then continued immigration of skilled personnel in various fields like Engineering , Medicine first from the European Shambles left behind after WW2 and subsequently from myriad impoverished countries (at that time ) like India , China , South East Asian countries even the Phillippines etc etc has created a self sustaining ecosystem whereby since the last 4-5 decades they are able to simply watch technological growth happening only keeping a check on financial ,energy etc security and keeping their governance clean of the plague of unnecessary bureaucratic hinderances and the all pervasive stench of Corruption to quite an extent.

This coupled with a strong and successful state policy involving the idea of "pre-emptive action" in matters of military threats or energy security has led to a state where their progress and prosperity has been , for the most part --quite smooth.

The U.S is no single ethnicity marvel ---Anglo Saxon or otherwise , which might possibly be the reason why immigration is "celebrated" as some commentators and analysts put it.

Its immigration of skilled personnel even in the 21st century that actually stops them from stagnating.

Hence no immigrant needs to be unduly grateful to a land that is basically a land of "immigrants" , so multicultural that it may not be accurately described as having a "distinctive" culture per say.

As long as immigrants remain committed to a state of cultural harmony , understand their roles and duties in society and integrate with the system ( the US society allows a tremendous amount of individual freedom and opportunities for growth once these conditions are met) , they should do just fine.

The only downside is due to the numerical superiority of U.S citizens of Anglo -Saxon heritage , sometimes another ethnic groups cultural sensitivities are misconstrued as "Un-American" .

Also the "racism" problem and the fact that the Rich -poor divide somehow tends to find African -Americans /Mexicans and a few ethnicities on the "poor" side of the dividing line --gives rise to a false impression or prejudice of incapability or lack of intelligence based on Race and thus shapes mainstream social opinion which is sometimes deep rooted and therefore difficult to dislodge.

The analogy may also be applied to the idea of "machismo" , where certain ethnicities especially South Asian ones are supposedly physically weaker and therefore incapable of strenuous jobs reflected most notably in the absence of such ethnicities in sports like baseball , American football, Basketball etc popular in mainstream American society --again giving rise to an erroneous perception of fraility in certain ethnicities.

 

[Obambam]

The U.S technological prowess --basically the reason they are able to stand on every other nations shoulders today is roughly because of the mass immigration of German and Japanese scientists , technicians etc etc. after WW2 . Since then continued immigration of skilled personnel in various fields like Engineering , Medicine first from the European Shambles left behind after WW2 and subsequently from myriad impoverished countries (at that time ) like India , China , South East Asian countries even the Phillippines etc etc has created a self sustaining ecosystem whereby since the last 4-5 decades they are able to simply watch technological growth happening only keeping a check on financial ,energy etc security and keeping their governance clean of the plague of unnecessary bureaucratic hinderances and the all pervasive stench of Corruption to quite an extent.

This coupled with a strong and successful state policy involving the idea of "pre-emptive action" in matters of military threats or energy security has led to a state where their progress and prosperity has been , for the most part --quite smooth.

The U.S is no single ethnicity marvel ---Anglo Saxon or otherwise , which might possibly be the reason why immigration is "celebrated" as some commentators and analysts put it.

Its immigration of skilled personnel even in the 21st century that actually stops them from stagnating.

Hence no immigrant needs to be unduly grateful to a land that is basically a land of "immigrants" , so multicultural that it may not be accurately described as having a "distinctive" culture per say.

As long as immigrants remain committed to a state of cultural harmony , understand their roles and duties in society and integrate with the system ( the US society allows a tremendous amount of individual freedom and opportunities for growth once these conditions are met) , they should do just fine.

The only downside is due to the numerical superiority of U.S citizens of Anglo -Saxon heritage , sometimes another ethnic groups cultural sensitivities are misconstrued as "Un-American" .

Also the "racism" problem and the fact that the Rich -poor divide somehow tends to find African -Americans /Mexicans and a few ethnicities on the "poor" side of the dividing line --gives rise to a false impression or prejudice of incapability or lack of intelligence based on Race and thus shapes mainstream social opinion which is sometimes deep rooted and therefore difficult to dislodge.

The analogy may also be applied to the idea of "machismo" , where certain ethnicities especially South Asian ones are supposedly physically weaker and therefore incapable of strenuous jobs reflected most notably in the absence of such ethnicities in sports like baseball , American football, Basketball etc popular in mainstream American society --again giving rise to an erroneous perception of fraility in certain ethnicities.

They are great opportunists. Whilst the others are busy licking their wounds, the Americans were busy researching, refining and improving.

 

[Urbanized Greyhound]

They are great opportunists. Whilst the others are busy licking their wounds, the Americans were busy researching, refining and improving.

Yes exactly !!! They are business minded people and if they approve even a visa let alone a green card or naturalization --they will first look at the benefits or the contribution , the visa/green card recipients will make to their country/economy.

They follow the principle of "no free lunches " very strictly.


But this strategy seems to work very well considering it has kept them for decades on the technology forefront.

I wonder what their record is in giving citizenship to refugees or unskilled people ?

i have a feeling , European countries are better in this aspect. I have a few examples to demonstrate too just in case some American of Anglo-Saxon ethnicity comes jumping in

 

[Imran Khan]

give me a green card so i will be grateful

 

[Armstrong]

Are you an Immigrant ?

I thought Krypton was being inducted as the 51st State of the US; I guess, Lex must've convinced the President otherwise !

 

[KAL-EL]

Are you an Immigrant ?

I thought Krypton was being inducted as the 51st State of the US; I guess, Lex must've convinced the President otherwise !

Now why must you bring up long dead Krypton I need some comfort food now.

 

[Urbanized Greyhound]

give me a green card so i will be grateful

They will give you a green card if you give them something in return that is 10 times as valuable --Since you are from our part of the world and not European/Australian /etc .

Something valuable would be if you had exceptional computer language skills or were a genius of a scientist with dozens of research papers in Nano Electronics with practical applications or you had the business brains to run a giant conglomerate etc .

You have to see that you are adding more value to them and their economy than whatever they are providing to you ( a green card will just mean a high standard of living + latest facilities in terms of technology / best institutions for your kids etc.) .

Its a kind of skewed balance but that's how it is I guess . The lion roars and the foxes direct it hither and thither. Elementary Rule of the Jungle Imran Paaji