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Nawaz Sharif first ever who visited India but totally ignored Kashmiri Leadership

All said and done, changing is afoot and Pakistan is slowly backing off from Kashmir. Your leaders dont insist as much on it as they used to, its exponentially less a part of your citizens life compared to say a decade back.

the Kashmiri rejection of indian hegemony is a purely Kashmiri phenomenon. We just provide the moral support

Sharif was all about roses and petals but Kargil still happened (and that too when another hindu supremacist was in power)
 
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the Kashmiri rejection of indian hegemony is a purely Kashmiri phenomenon. We just provide the moral support

Sharif was all about roses and petals but Kargil still happened (and that too when another hindu supremacist was in power)
We all know Pakistan provides the money, the training, the logistics, the weapons for terrorists...and more often than not its Pakistani punjabis who are fighting in Kashmir.

Secondly, there will never be a coup again in Pakistan, we are helping GoP defang the PA and bring it down to its constitutionally mandated role.

Thirdly, thank the god that Kargil happened, it alone has ensured that no western power will ever support Pakistan in trying to change the LoC.
 
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What else can we expect from him? And frankly is not surprising.
 
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We all know Pakistan provides the money, the training, the logistics, the weapons for terrorists...and more often than not its Pakistani punjabis who are fighting in Kashmir.

we provide moral support to freedom fighters and will continue to do so....remember that the Kashmiri liberation movement isn't one single faction. You have Mirwaiz faction who arent even calling for the merger with Pakistan. They all have different strategies, but all are united in their quest to rid Kashmir of the ruthless occupation forces and seek self determination


Secondly, there will never be a coup again in Pakistan, we are helping GoP defang the PA and bring it down to its constitutionally mandated role.

cool story...."defang the PA"


@Xeric @Irfan Baloch @Aeronaut -- get a load of this kid :laugh: :laugh:


Thirdly, thank the god that Kargil happened, it alone has ensured that no western power will ever support Pakistan in trying to change the LoC.

we still retain the heights to 5353 which gives us a very nice vantage point in the event of the future war.....and quite frankly, there never was a broad "western support" in favour of Pakistan though there are "western" agencies and ruling bodies who are very much cognizant to indias genocide/mass murder of Kashmiris

hence the need for AFSPA and other such draconian measures imposed by the so called "largest democracy"

It will be interesting to see how things pan out, undoubtedly
 
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the Kashmiri rejection of indian hegemony is a purely Kashmiri phenomenon. We just provide the moral support

Sharif was all about roses and petals but Kargil still happened (and that too when another hindu supremacist was in power)


The moral support cr@p lost you half your country, did'nt it? :lol:
LOLLLLL, and then we all know how it (Kargil) ended.........
If you can read: then read a book published in paksitan by the then Deputy DG-ISPR titled "Witness to a Blunder".
The title speaks for itself........Happy Reading. :rofl:
 
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Secondly, there will never be a coup again in Pakistan, we are helping GoP defang the PA and bring it down to its constitutionally mandated role.

Unlike peaceful Pakistan of 1999, with full fledged Taliban insurgency in Pakistan and entire country in mess, Pakistan army won't do coup to carry the blame of the failure, so they will let the civilian government to have a blame of all these failure. Musharraf already got lots of bad name because of that. Moreover America is also watching them. ;)

If you can read: then read a book published in paksitan by the then Deputy DG-ISPR titled "Witness to a Blunder".
The title speaks for itself........Happy Reading. :rofl:

What's there in that book. You made me eager to read it.

Sharif was all about roses and petals but Kargil still happened (and that too when another hindu supremacist was in power)

And it proved, Pakistan even with its nuclear weapons failed to control those peaks and ran to America to end the war. :omghaha::omghaha::omghaha:
 
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we provide moral support to freedom fighters and will continue to do so....remember that the Kashmiri liberation movement isn't one single faction. You have Mirwaiz faction who arent even calling for the merger with Pakistan. They all have different strategies, but all are united in their quest to rid Kashmir of the ruthless occupation forces and seek self determination
Great. And we see them becoming less and less relevant each passing year.

cool story...."defang the PA"
Yes. PA must be limited at all costs to its constitutional role. It can not keep usurping the executive's power as it has in the past.

Changes are afoot. You will not see a coup again, and give it some time, PA's threat/influence in the GoP will also start to vane.

we still retain the heights to 5353 which gives us a very nice vantage point in the event of the future war.....
Actually it does not. All the surrounding peaks are held by India which can immediately target 5353.
Secondly, India is already building a second road, tunneling under a mountain to provide all weather connectivity to that region.

All this basically means that 5353 has no military value. In the future use of 5353 as a vantage point will also cease as India will shift its logistics from the currently single road of that region which is also seasonal to a second all weather road which is under construction which has a good portion tunneled.

Thirdly, in the days of satellite imagery freely available and the likes of atleast India enjoying a lot of remote sensing sats, the need for a post simply to observe a road which has seasonal utility is very diminished.

and quite frankly, there never was a broad "western support" in favour of Pakistan though there are "western" agencies and ruling bodies who are very much cognizant to indias genocide/mass murder of Kashmiris
hence the need for AFSPA and other such draconian measures imposed by the so called "largest democracy"
It will be interesting to see how things pan out, undoubtedly
There were those that bought Pakistan's humanitarian line and mujahid story initially in those days. Fortunately for us as those claims fell through, so did Pakistan's credibility in the world.
And it has been a downhill ride ever since for Pakistan.
 
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Lol ppl from terrorist exporter country calling other's terrorist. And pdf Indians trying thr best to be diplomatic. Just another day on PDF .:pleasantry:

Needless to remind the Pakistanis about the first and the biggest terrorist of the Indian subcontinent whose greed caused death of millions
 
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Nawaz Sharif first ever who visited India but totally ignored Kashmiri Leadership

Its really disappointing that nawaz didnt meet Huriyat Leadership, just to be in good books of Modi terrorist.

@Jazzbot @LoveIcon @Secur @HRK - Yaaar the Baldy has done it again; I don't know whether all of these are coincidences or did some of his brain cells go away with his hair as well ? :disagree:

Did any of you see his Press Conference & then that of the Indian lady (I presume the FM) - Beraaa gharaaak ! :hitwall:

 
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maybe loser taliban khan will bring up the K word..:fans::pakistan:
 
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I m really worried, A man whose election symbol is lion is acting like a jackal or worse yet, like a stray dog.

Even when PPP leaders went to India they did talk Kashmir and met Kashmiri freedom fighters. Nawaz being a Kashmiri totally ignoring Kashmir is a worrying prospect. I dont think Mr. Sharif will spend next four years in the office. He is better off going to his beloved Saudi Arabia, for good.
 
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No , I didn't . You expected any better ?
i wud like to know what u expected out of this meeting(if u can call it one)..
my opinion-they must have talked about various issues,including Kashmir(i expect,hi-hello 10-15 min mein khatam ho kata hai),but they didn't disclose anythng in there respective press conferences,which were directed towards domestic audience
 
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