Nawaz knew little about ‘foolish’ Kargil op: ex-ISI chief

[El Sidd]

Okay. When you say "Kargil would have been a different story," i take that as your agreement with me that it was a foolish operation after all.

But I find it shocking when you say "some operations are not revealed to the civilian government."

I don't think that's true (correct me if I'm wrong). In a democracy, the civilian government decides what army should be doing and not the other way around. At least that's how I understand it.

It was not a foolish operation. It was a daring operation which had the potential to churn out the desired results. Sometimes a tactical retreat is an offensive maneuver in itself.

This is standard for any country. Special ops are 'special' for a reason.

 

[oOo]

It was not a foolish operation. It was a daring operation which had the potential to churn out the desired results. Sometimes a tactical retreat is an offensive maneuver in itself.

This is standard for any country. Special ops are 'special' for a reason.

Kargil is not touted as foolish for it failing to get the results, in fact it is for it being so inefficient and ridiculous that it could never succeed, not just that, it bring lot of embarrassment to people capable of feeling shame.

 

[El Sidd]

Kargil is not touted as foolish for it failing to get the results, in fact it is for it being so inefficient and ridiculous that it could never succeed, not just that, it bring lot of embarrassment to people capable of feeling shame.

The operation succeeded till the government decided we should be merciful to the Indians.

 

[Tom M]

It was not a foolish operation. It was a daring operation which had the potential to churn out the desired results. Sometimes a tactical retreat is an offensive maneuver in itself.

This is standard for any country. Special ops are 'special' for a reason.

Agreed, the operation in itself (in a military perspective) was not stupid.

But again, the timing was really damn stupid, which had caused more damage to Pakistanis standing internationally than achieving any of the desired objectives. The reason why your establishment couldn't own the ops as their own resulting in becoming silent spectators when Indian Mirages were pounding your positions via laser guided bombs in Kargil.

 

[oOo]

The operation succeeded till the government decided we should be merciful to the Indians.

and let the one among you culled. lol

Infact by theory of mard e momin 1:10, those 90K were also good enough to invade whole BD and Indian army, they were just mercifool

 

[El Sidd]

Agreed, the operation in itself (in a military perspective) was not stupid.

But again, the timing was really damn stupid, which had caused more damage to Pakistanis standing internationally than achieving any of the desired objectives. The reason why your establishment couldn't own the ops as their own resulting in becoming silent spectators when Indian Mirages were pounding your positions via laser guided bombs in Kargil.

That is your cover story. You can teach your kids that. It is your right.

and let the one among you culled. lol

Infact by theory of mard e momin 1:10, those 90K were also good enough to invade whole BD and Indian army, they were just mercifool

Cool story

and let the one among you culled. lol

Infact by theory of mard e momin 1:10, those 90K were also good enough to invade whole BD and Indian army, they were just mercifool

If it makes you happy. Bangladesh has a sub forum here as well.

 

[sputnik]

Musharraf did a blunder in Kargil which led us into a disaster and shame.

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[Kuru]

It was not a foolish operation. It was a daring operation which had the potential to churn out the desired results. Sometimes a tactical retreat is an offensive maneuver in itself.

Of course it was a daring operation, because it was carried out without keeping in mind how India is going to react to it.

Let me give you an example: let's say that I decide to rob a bank. The guards there beat the hell out of me. Then I decide to run away.

Now will I call it a daring operation? Yes.
Did I meet my objective? No.
So should I call it a foolish operation? YES!

There you go.

This is standard for any country. Special ops are 'special' for a reason.

Special ops by Army are carried out with the "consent" of the civilian government, isn't it Sidd?

 

[volatile]

It’s never too late to learn from mistakes
The Newspaper's Staff ReporterUpdated May 30, 2018
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LAHORE: Speakers at a book launch on Tuesday emphasised the need for learning a lesson from the Kargil military operation which they said was a blunder committed in isolation (without consultation with other institutions) in the country and without anticipating the world response to it.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1410922

https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/20...argil-to-the-coup-events-that-shook-pakistan/
Book launch by Nasim Zehra: ‘From Kargil to the coup: Events that shook Pakistan’

 

[doorstar]

[-----] how come A retired ISI mid level official came about the presence of OBL ? S-WING probably was responsible for OBL hideout in abbotababd as well. [-----]

If this Osama in Abbotabad story was true and/or had it not been not an election gimmick, Obama would have put Osama's body on display and not "bury" him at sea

 

[tarrar]

Bastard Asad Durrani is only reading script & playing in ganjas hand.