Nawaz again backstabbed Pak Military at vital moment and venue !

[Cherokee]

This Mumbai attack was a drama created by the RAW to divert attention from Kashmir. .

9/11 was drama created by CIA to divert attention .
7/11 was drama created by MI6 to divert attention

and last but not the least

Peshawar school massacre was drama created by ISI and military to divert attention .

 

[waleed3601]

sorry to say that the Ayub Khan was first most powerful traitor appointed by monarchs. People of Pakistan named him what he deserved. he would have been worse than yayha khan if he would have stayed longer and was the one who made one unit and tried to cow all his rivals but was stunned demoralized and had to resign. so do not forget this and do not give him credit of industrialization. If today People of Pakistan rise up they will get good share of resources but unfortunately they do not care and few peole like nawaz are busy building their business empire.

PIA, PTV, SUPARCO, 7% GDP Growth, Development of Karachi as an industrial and commercial hub in Asia and all of our initial Industrialization are the gifts of Ayub Khan to Pakistan.
I agree on the second part though, but unfortunately no one is ever going to do that. Pakistan will never ever see a revolution because our people are stupid, uneducated, and most importantly lack the ability to think and analyze critically and with patience listen to what others have to say.

 

[deepak.chauhan2312]

Not really true. There are many other issues here.

PPP rule saw utter destruction aka nationalization of all the banks, all the factories, and all the big name schools.

That in a sense has been the major "internal" reason.

Pakistan has been roped in Afghanistan wars for 40 years. That is the major external reason.

peace

other issues will always be there but the reason why India and Pakistan don't have good economic cooperation is due to interference of Military in decision making process.If Pakistan had good relation with India in terms of economy It will be a good progressive country and will be able to tackle terrorism.Many countries in world have territorial disputes in world but they still do business as usual.

 

[Rahi812]

Peshawar APS attack was also a drama created by ISI ...???

APS attack was shame on humanity. There is only place in the world where they burn their dead bodies and also their wives. Same people kill innocent kids and then burned them and then created high alert in their schools.
After Peshawar Attack, Goa Police Tighten Security in Schools
They forgot followeres of Mehmud Ghaznavi, who came to Indian subcontinent on the request of victimized and raped women, don't do this sort of things.
Capital put on high alert after Peshawar attack | The Indian Express
Violent crimes against women is still at the highest. Rape is an epidemic in India. What can we expect from this sort of creature?

 

[FaujHistorian]

other issues will always be there but the reason why India and Pakistan don't have good economic cooperation is due to interference of Military in decision making process.If Pakistan had good relation with India in terms of economy It will be a good progressive country and will be able to tackle terrorism.Many countries in world have territorial disputes in world but they still do business as usual.

What you say is true only if you were born after 1985 or study history only going back to 1990.

 

[Rahi812]

It's the Pakistani Army that calls the shots in Pakistan.
That's why I say, it is necessary to continue in the path of systematically alienating Pakistan economically from the rest of the World. That will starve their army off cash. We should continue to push forward the agenda for UN sanctions. As India will grow economically, our stand will become stronger.
May be a lot of other innocent people will suffer too. But then what choice do we have ? Better than shooting our way to the very end.

By spreading hatred against Pakistan. India is making a big mistake. Instead of growing economically they are more focused on destroying Pakistan.

 

[Spring Onion]

Nawaz Sharif has backstabbed our military establishment again in Ufa Russia, by accepting Indian condition of investigating Mumbai attack ! He deliberately ignored mentioning of Indian terrorism in Kashmir , KPK, Balochistan and just made it look as if Pakistan military responsible for trouble in South Asia and of Mumbai attack, an event which was a false flag operation of Indians to malign Pakistan.

Nawaz Sharif played this card against our military establishment at a crucial time and important international venue , thinking that by getting military involved in Mumbai attack, he can delay the 'economic terrorism' operation which ultimately will nab him along with Zardari and all other looters of the wealth of Pakistan.

My wishes are with General Raheel Shareef and his sincere and able team and I am sure he will foil the attempts of these traitor politicians and will rid our country of all kind of terrorists and traitors.

Long live Pakistan military and Pakistan Zindabad !

This is your personal opinion .

Pakistani government and military are on board. We have already offered investigation even when Nawaz as not the PM.

 

[FaujHistorian]

PIA, PTV, SUPARCO, 7% GDP Growth, Development of Karachi as an industrial and commercial hub in Asia and all of our initial Industrialization are the gifts of Ayub Khan to Pakistan.
y.

True, but he destroyed it all by not being smart enough to avoid 1965 war.

in some cases we are still paying for our mistakes in 1965 all attributable to Ayub Khan's approach.

. Pakistan will never ever see a revolution because our people are stupid, uneducated, and most importantly lack the ability to think and analyze critically and with patience listen to what others have to say.

This is very patorinizing attitude of yours towards our masses.

Avoid it if you can.

Revolutions are the results of $tupid short term goals. They seldom produce lasting progress.

Why?

lasting progress needs stability and hard work over a long long long time.

And military dictators cannot bring long term peace, especially in our part of the world.

 

[Rahi812]

9/11 was drama created by CIA to divert attention .
7/11 was drama created by MI6 to divert attention

and last but not the least

Peshawar school massacre was drama created by ISI and military to divert attention .

Only thing which is not a drama is Modi. Killer of 2000 Gujrati people. And now a PM. Humannity has done one good thing putting visa restriction on his travel to West and the USA.

 

[Spectre]

APS attack was shame on humanity. There is only place in the world where they burn their dead bodies and also their wives. Same people kill innocent kids and then burned them and then created high alert in their schools.
After Peshawar Attack, Goa Police Tighten Security in Schools
They forgot followeres of Mehmud Ghaznavi, who came to Indian subcontinent on the request of victimized and raped women, don't do this sort of things.
Capital put on high alert after Peshawar attack | The Indian Express
Violent crimes against women is still at the highest. Rape is an epidemic in India. What can we expect from this sort of creature?

Post reported.

 

[Cherokee]

Only thing which is not a drama is Modi. Killer of 2000 Gujrati people. And now a PM. Humannity has done one good thing putting visa restriction on his travel to West and the USA.

modi has no vida restriction in USA .

now go in the corner and cry your eyes out .

 

[P.K.]

People who 'shield' Lakhvi? You mean the High Court?

Its an irony that Pakistan instead of approaching UN and convince the world about the innocence of Lakhvi, Hafiz and Dawood and getting the ban lifted of them, It starts convincing their own 'Aawam' about this.

 

[TankMan]

Its an irony that Pakistan instead of approaching UN and convince the world about the innocence of Lakhvi, Hafiz and Dawood and getting the ban lifted of them, It starts convincing their own 'Aawam' about this.

Your argument is based on a false assumption that Pakistan is somehow trying to convince its population of anything. They aren't. They aren't convincing anyone about this. The courts are already convinced. Nobody ever tried to convince the Awaam.

There is no need to persuade the international community - their jurisdiction is theirs and courts have their own jurisdiction.

Also note that I was only talking about Lakhvi, and you extrapolating it to include Hafiz Saeed and Dawood is fallacious.

 

[B@KH]

PIA, PTV, SUPARCO, 7% GDP Growth, Development of Karachi as an industrial and commercial hub in Asia and all of our initial Industrialization are the gifts of Ayub Khan to Pakistan.
I agree on the second part though, but unfortunately no one is ever going to do that. Pakistan will never ever see a revolution because our people are stupid, uneducated, and most importantly lack the ability to think and analyze critically and with patience listen to what others have to say.

No credit to ayub, known as sheep general in military but was top traitor imposed by monarchs to start wahabization of Pakistan.

Industrialization was the 1947 revolutionary push of the People of Pakistan when government build factories and privatize it and industrializing nation. It stopped in the era of Ayub Khan but lot was already done ad could not be stopped by him.

Today most the New generation of Pakistan is deviated and made dumb by the wahabis. The only thing that guarantees the prosperous and better future is to get rid of the wahabi yoke. but it is hard as saudi puppet india + terrorists will punish anti monarchs.

 

[nForce]

kaarma is a beeaach bhai jaan

biggest beeeaaach.

you say alienating? Sure.

And guess what India is included in SCO right at the same minute as Pakistan.

Modi blabbering has failed totally. in fact such pagal punna is making Pak army stronger. Just watch all the state welcome parties for Gen Raheel all over the world.

Heck the main negotiations for Afghanistan are being held in Pakistan with US and China as observers.

India and Modi kicked out.

I wish Modi was sane enough to realize Pakistan's reach in global affairs. And today he too would be respected in Pakistan and invited in important negotiations.

But the mad man failed miserably.

I agree, we still have not been much successful in this area. But the indicators are positive.

1.A lot of terrorist outfits based in Pakistan and nurtured by Pakistani army have been banned by UN with their assets freezed.

2. Countries like Saudi Arabia, Iran and Jordan, which had actively helped Pakistan before, against India are now helping India to take down these terrorist networks.

3. Afghanistan is no longer a terrorist breeding ground and no matter what happens as the former Afghan Foreign minister says, Afghanistan is not going back to becoming Pakistani army's strategic backyard.

4. US State Department has imposed sanctions on at least 22 different people and 4 different organizations. It's treasury department has freezed assets of the same.

5. India had certain degree of success in decoupling Pakistan from rest of South Asia by forming BBIN (Unrelated to SCO, China is not South Asia).

6. UK has been found lobbying for India's inclusion in to NSG while at the same time they have sanctions against nuclear exports to Pakistan. I'm sure you are aware of India's civilian nuclear pacts as well.

7. India recently tried to impose sanctions through UN, for the Lakhvi case. All the other countries agreed except for China. That should tell you how heavily biased things are in favour of India. China has certain economic interests, but I'm sure with perseverance, we can deal with it too. That Chabahar port may come handy, if the cards are played correctly.
We can go on and on about it, just quoted a few salient points.
So far, the efforts have been concentrated on building the ground. Gradually we will make progress. As India develops economically, we will be able to take more direct and deliberate actions.

All this is done by Indian bureaucracy, and that remains unchanged be it Modi or Manmohan, they all will more or less conform to the same line, the vigour may change to some extent depending upon various other factors.

I'm sorry things are going this way. But when certain elements within Pakistan assisted by it's army attacks our Parliament, hijacks our planes(multiple times!), or kills hundreds of innocent people in Mumbai in the most barbaric fashion that the World has ever seen then don't expect us to sit tight and do nothing about it. We may not straight-away go for 'an-eye-for-an-eye', but, we will of course do our best to protect ourselves.