Navy inching closer to local C-702 missile production

[TopCat]

Well, we do operate MiG-29s and many BTR-80s. The S-300 system is expensive. They'll sell it to us if we have the money.

Even if Bangladesh does procure S-300, India wouldn't really give much of a damn really. They are by far vaster than us in all aspects of military. It doesn't matter even if we have 500 F-22s.

As far as loan or aid is concerned, they are focused on very particular projects. None of the aid money are for military. Military aid come under a completely different category. This similarly applies to loans.

According to Western diplomats, Bangladesh does not face any significant military threat.

The only issue is Myanmar. And if any real challenge ever arises, we'll have all the international support we can get. Myanmar is zero with or without support from both China and India.

As far as the oil reserves on the Bay of Bengal goes, let that be settled on the table. And yes, I'd support developing our navy to maintain control of the area agreed upon. BN's operations are relatively limited as of now. At present the navy is mostly limited to coastal patrolling, however it is implementing an ambitious procurement and expansion program to ensure the security of Bangladesh's maritime boundary. And that's what we should focus on.

Its all about money and benifits brother. When Conoco Philips bided for disputed block, the US diplomat came to BD and said USA is ready to help BD to secure its maritime boundary. Conoco Philips despite knowing the block disputed, pressed hard to award even the diputed portion of the block. That just means that uncle sam was behind them. Tell you one truth that if any US company secure a 100 TCF reserve in a disputed land, USA will send its frigates to the side (country) which will favor their company. Thats how it is.
Not a single American I met consider India is a ally neither they trust. Same goes for US policy makers. They are using India for their own benifits. India will never shed their blood for Americans.

 

[TopCat]

well tell me , can we buy s-300 now?? Nope.. Russia will not sell us cause india will not allow russia to sell us. And Bangladesh don't want to piss of india by acquiring those missiles also.. It is common sense... I was talking about this pressure. Foreigners will not give us loan or aid if we waste money on weapons too much...

S-300 is a big budget defence procurement. Russia will think 3 times before rejecting the sale. But ofcourse if India comes with counter offer like buying 100s of their Jets then Russia might reconsider but that is unlikely as India has other options and willing to buy western equipments now a days.

And 2 billion dollar worth of foreign loan means nothing to BD anymore. Foreigner know that by now.

 

[kobiraaz]

We do operate the FM-90 on our ships:

Missile dimensions: (length) 3.00m; (diameter) 0.156m; (wingspan) 0.55m
Launch weight: 84.5kg
Operating altitude: 30~5,000m
Minimum operating range: 500m
Max operating range: 8,600m (400m/s target); 10,000m (300m/s target); 12,000m (slow flying target such as helicopter)
Speed: Mach 2.3 (750m/s)
Guidance: Command + electro-optical tracking
Warhead: HE-FRAG with proximity fuse
Single shot hit probability: 70~80%
Radar detecting range: 18.4km
Radar homing range: 17km

Chinese Defence Today - Naval HQ-7 Ship-to-Air Missile

We need longer range SAMs.

so far i know we are again getting this sam in new frigates. We should go for HQ-16 VLS SYSTEM....

 

[wild_fire1979]

It does not take a special technology to make it sea skimming. Sea skimming results in a shortened range due to extra drag. Brahmos prefers range over sea skimming. Plus given the range and speed it is near impossible to intercept.

 

[misterme2]

I cant wait, then our Bangla brothers can loose a few to India

 

[bd_4_ever]

I cant wait, then our Bangla brothers can loose a few to India

Off course...you got it buddy!

 

[Areesh]

Even if Bangladesh does procure S-300, India wouldn't really give much of a damn really. They are by far vaster than us in all aspects of military. It doesn't matter even if we have 500 F-22s.

OK now that is an exaggeration.

 

[Zabaniyah]

Its all about money and benifits brother. When Conoco Philips bided for disputed block, the US diplomat came to BD and said USA is ready to help BD to secure its maritime boundary. Conoco Philips despite knowing the block disputed, pressed hard to award even the diputed portion of the block. That just means that uncle sam was behind them. Tell you one truth that if any US company secure a 100 TCF reserve in a disputed land, USA will send its frigates to the side (country) which will favor their company. Thats how it is.
Not a single American I met consider India is a ally neither they trust. Same goes for US policy makers. They are using India for their own benifits. India will never shed their blood for Americans.

That depends on how our government agrees with the Americans. Should be 60/40 share. As long as there is a formal agreement, then there wouldn't be any problems. Securing our interests in the Bay of Bengal is very crucial.

In fact statistically, most Americans have a favorable opinion of India. One Republican candidate has called on better relations with India:
India Critical to America

And India is becoming important to America's 21st century...ideas....
U.S. Election Season: How Does India Fit In? - Brookings Institution

India can be a good source of revenue for America along with the other lap-dogs. Also, they hate China for no particular reason.

Some Westerners are already getting excited over a prospect of a Indo-Sino war. Even if they know that India is currently no match against China's ballistic missile arsenal.
India: A tiger awakes to challenge Chinese military - FT.com

So, you are right, it is all about the money for the Western folks. Especially in these dire economic times for the West. Ironic considering India was a Cold War foe.

I wish there was a major for studying Western Hypocrisy

 

[ProsperBD]

OK now that is an exaggeration.

Obviously

 

[monitor]

so far i know we are again getting this sam in new frigates. We should go for HQ-16 VLS SYSTEM....

If we can induct type 54 we will have it. as per wiki price is 1.58 billion yuan (approx. 275million dollar)

 

[kobiraaz]

our frigates are actually not frigates. Big corvetts... They don't have enough space to fit enough weapon.. I guess Seahawk 60 can not land on a 100 M frigate.....

 

[TopCat]

In fact statistically, most Americans have a favorable opinion of India. One Republican candidate has called on better relations with India:
India Critical to America

Favorable opinion against China. They will never consider that as ally.

And India is becoming important to America's 21st century...ideas....
U.S. Election Season: How Does India Fit In? - Brookings Institution

India can be a good source of revenue for America along with the other lap-dogs. Also, they hate China for no particular reason.

Everybody hates their competitor who is about to take their place. They also believe that, due to Japanese experience before WW2. They even never remotely think of India being their competitor. They still think India is a 3rd world backward country having good cheap computer programmers.

Some Westerners are already getting excited over a prospect of a Indo-Sino war. Even if they know that India is currently no match against China's ballistic missile arsenal.

Correct. Still China is different ball game for them than India.

 

[Zabaniyah]

If we can induct type 54 we will have it. as per wiki price is 1.58 billion yuan (approx. 275million dollar)

Type-54 is a pistol.
Type 54 pistol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'd say these are the qualified candidates.
MissileThreat :: Hongqi-9 (HQ-9)
MissileThreat :: S-400 (SA-20 Triumf)

There could be more.

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More interesting reading here:
2. Main Area-Defense Systems - SinoDefence.com

 

[Zabaniyah]

Ship-to-Air Missiles:
-S-300F/ Rif
-9M38 / 9M317 / Shtil
-HHQ-16
-HHQ-9
-HHQ-7
-LY-60
-PL-9C
-HQ-61

Source: Shipboard Systems - SinoDefence.com

 

[monitor]

Type-54 is a pistol.
Type 54 pistol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'd say these are the qualified candidates.
MissileThreat :: Hongqi-9 (HQ-9)
MissileThreat :: S-400 (SA-20 Triumf)

There could be more.

---------- Post added at 08:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:55 PM ----------

More interesting reading here:
2. Main Area-Defense Systems - SinoDefence.com

i told about type 54 frigate
Type 054 frigate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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our frigates are actually not frigates. Big corvetts... They don't have enough space to fit enough weapon.. I guess Seahawk 60 can not land on a 100 M frigate.....

yea . but in future frigate that are coming will capable of doing it . i wish we could have this in future