Navy inching closer to local C-702 missile production

[Zabaniyah]

HOw is it compared with Bhramos??

Just curious.

Brahmos is currently the fastest cruise missile in the world. Speed is almost Mach 3.0. Range is 290 km. Warhead weight 300 kg.

The C-802 (Eagle Strike) speed is Mach 0.9. Range is 120 km - 500 km depending on variant. Warhead weighs 165 kg. The one BN use is C-802A (180 km).

So generally on paper, Brahmos is better.

But, I am sure that Bangladesh can get access to better cruise missiles and produce them. Given that the resources and means are there.

 

[Al-zakir]

Alhumdulillah if the news is true.

This is only the beginning. JOI BANGLA

What is JOI BANGLA?

Bye the way, is it the picture of Sindbad in your Avator.

 

[HZR2011]

HOw is it compared with Bhramos??

Just curious.

Nice Question:

it actually Brahmos...

C-802 speed 0.9Mach
Brahmos supersonic 3.0 Mach(nearly 1km/per second)
So 2 times more faster than C-802

And Range:

C-802 :- 180 km (C-802A); 120 km (C-802)
if its C-802 its just 120Km

Brahmos 300KM "Officially"

And Brahmos is a vertical launch missile.....

C-802:- 165Kg pay load

Brahmos:- 300Kg either conventional or Nuke



And to make it more easier to compare...

C-802 may take minutes to reach its 120Km far target...
But Brahmos takes seconds to smoke it

And finally by the time u get C-802 completely made in bangladesh..
Brahmos Hypersonic will be replacing Brahmos supersonic....


Will the above facts u can decide which is better

 

[Maira La]

C-802 speed 0.9Mach
Brahmos supersonic 3.0 Mach(nearly 1km/per second)
So 2 times more faster than C-802


C-802 may take minutes to reach its 120Km far target...
But Brahmos takes seconds to smoke it

Using your own data, it's 2 mins and 4 mins for Brahmos and C-802 respectively to reach a target 120 km away.

 

[wild_fire1979]

Using your own data, it's 2 mins and 4 mins for Brahmos and C-802 respectively to reach a target 120 km away.

The data is in-correct. In both cases the terminal speed is 0.9 and Mach 3.0 respectively. The missile never travels at the stated speed at all times. The terminal speed is 0.9 and 3.0. Such speed is attained in the final minutes of the missile approaching the target so as to give very little to no response time for interception.

Also in the final terminal phase the missile dips to near sea level and skims the surface to further evade detection. The Brahmos further displays the 'S' maneuver at terminal phase to counteract a Phlanx kinda system.

Cruise missiles are deadly and highly effective. They form a good deterrence. That's why range and detection is the deciding factor. With P-8i Poseidon in the sky, a ship will be detected and if deemed hostile will be target designated. The nearest responding ship will launch the missile with guidance and course correction provided by the recon plane.

By the time the missile actually shows up on the ships radar it is probably too late. The missiles are designed to hit as close to the water level as possible to inflict maximum damage and make water gush in in order to sink the ship.

 

[Avisheik]

Alhumdulillah if the news is true.



What is JOI BANGLA?

Bye the way, is it the picture of Sindbad in your Avator.

Joi bangla is the some sort of war cry of bangladesh. I think you would have heard it before.

Nah the picture is just a launch from bangladesh

 

[monitor]

HOw is it compared with Bhramos??

Just curious.

Bhramos is a supersonics missile 9.2 m long missile weighs about three tonnes. It can travel at speeds of up to 2.8 Mach or almost thrice the speed of sound. It has a range of 290 km (180 miles) and can carry a conventional warhead of up to 300 kg (660lb)

c-801 subsonic missile with 180 km range

 

[ziaulislam]

Bhramos is a supersonics missile 9.2 m long missile weighs about three tonnes. It can travel at speeds of up to 2.8 Mach or almost thrice the speed of sound. It has a range of 290 km (180 miles) and can carry a conventional warhead of up to 300 kg (660lb)

c-801 subsonic missile with 180 km range

all of us are ignoring one crucial point..
bhramos isnt sea skimming in all stages so its picked up early by defense sytems..

a similar missile to bharmos in terminal velocity is the c-803 supersonic terminal phase..yet being seas skimming all time with subsonic initial phase
its rumoured that pakistan is primary customer with its subs..dont know whether any other country operates it

 

[TopCat]

all of us are ignoring one crucial point..
bhramos isnt sea skimming in all stages so its picked up early by defense sytems..

a similar missile to bharmos in terminal velocity is the c-803 supersonic terminal phase..yet being seas skimming all time with subsonic initial phase
its rumoured that pakistan is primary customer with its subs..dont know whether any other country operates it

C-802 is not a bad start BD defence. As China is willing for TOT of c-802 i believe they will some day provide us with c-803 as well when 3 new frigates and one or two squadron of fighters are bought from them.

I hope BD opt for chinese SAM instead of russian ones.

 

[kobiraaz]

we are all ignoring a point. That is when we conducted C-802 exercise india was not happy at all... Our leaders can't go for more modernized missiles cause of international pressure.. We have to be self - sufficient first , reduce poverty and then go for expensive weapons.. Now we are not in a place to avoid international pressure.....

 

[Zabaniyah]

we are all ignoring a point. That is when we conducted C-802 exercise india was not happy at all... Our leaders can't go for more modernized missiles cause of international pressure.. We have to be self - sufficient first , reduce poverty and then go for expensive weapons.. Now we are not in a place to avoid international pressure.....

Since when were we under international pressure by procuring weapons? Can you provide any sources?

 

[kobiraaz]

Since when were we under international pressure by procuring weapons? Can you provide any sources?

well tell me , can we buy s-300 now?? Nope.. Russia will not sell us cause india will not allow russia to sell us. And Bangladesh don't want to piss of india by acquiring those missiles also.. It is common sense... I was talking about this pressure. Foreigners will not give us loan or aid if we waste money on weapons too much...

 

[Zabaniyah]

well tell me , can we buy s-300 now?? Nope.. Russia will not sell us cause india will not allow russia to sell us. And Bangladesh don't want to piss of india by acquiring those missiles also.. It is common sense... I was talking about this pressure. Foreigners will not give us loan or aid if we waste money on weapons too much...

Well, we do operate MiG-29s and many BTR-80s. The S-300 system is expensive. They'll sell it to us if we have the money.

Even if Bangladesh does procure S-300, India wouldn't really give much of a damn really. They are by far vaster than us in all aspects of military. It doesn't matter even if we have 500 F-22s.

As far as loan or aid is concerned, they are focused on very particular projects. None of the aid money are for military. Military aid come under a completely different category. This similarly applies to loans.

According to Western diplomats, Bangladesh does not face any significant military threat.

The only issue is Myanmar. And if any real challenge ever arises, we'll have all the international support we can get. Myanmar is zero with or without support from both China and India.

As far as the oil reserves on the Bay of Bengal goes, let that be settled on the table. And yes, I'd support developing our navy to maintain control of the area agreed upon. BN's operations are relatively limited as of now. At present the navy is mostly limited to coastal patrolling, however it is implementing an ambitious procurement and expansion program to ensure the security of Bangladesh's maritime boundary. And that's what we should focus on.

 

[Zabaniyah]

We do operate the FM-90 on our ships:

Missile dimensions: (length) 3.00m; (diameter) 0.156m; (wingspan) 0.55m
Launch weight: 84.5kg
Operating altitude: 30~5,000m
Minimum operating range: 500m
Max operating range: 8,600m (400m/s target); 10,000m (300m/s target); 12,000m (slow flying target such as helicopter)
Speed: Mach 2.3 (750m/s)
Guidance: Command + electro-optical tracking
Warhead: HE-FRAG with proximity fuse
Single shot hit probability: 70~80%
Radar detecting range: 18.4km
Radar homing range: 17km

Chinese Defence Today - Naval HQ-7 Ship-to-Air Missile

We need longer range SAMs.

 

[somebozo]

Congratulations to Bangladesh!