NATO MILITARY POWER 2019 (1000 Warships, 5000 Fighter Jets, 25.000 Airplanes)

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Bro just shut up
You're not impressing anyone, especially not the Israeli army.

We dont care about tiny Israel
in 2013 you said to me that Turkiye can not develop UCAV

and in 2020 Turkish UCAVs impressed whole World including Israel in Syria and Libya

 

[Beny Karachun]

We dont care about tiny Israel
in 2013 you said to me that Turkiye can not develop UCAV

and in 2020 Turkish UCAVs impressed whole World including Israel in Syria and Libya

I don't remember Israel making such a statement

 

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I don't remember Israel making such a statement

Israel Impressed How Turkish Army Crushed Hezbollah In Idlib, Syria
https://eurasiantimes.com/israel-impressed-how-turkish-army-crushed-hezbollah-in-idlib-syria/

Israel learned from Hezbollah's defeat at the hands of Turkey
https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-...zbollahs-defeat-at-the-hands-of-turkey-628836




and Israel lost against Hezbollah in 2006
on the other hand in 2020 Turkish UCAVs kicked ASSAD Regime and HEZBOL's elite Radwan unit and Shiite militias supported by the IRGC in Idlib

 

[Beny Karachun]

Israel Impressed How Turkish Army Crushed Hezbollah In Idlib, Syria
https://eurasiantimes.com/israel-impressed-how-turkish-army-crushed-hezbollah-in-idlib-syria/

Israel learned from Hezbollah's defeat at the hands of Turkey
https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-...zbollahs-defeat-at-the-hands-of-turkey-628836




and Israel lost against Hezbollah in 2006
on the other hand in 2020 Turkish UCAVs kicked ASSAD Regime and HEZBOL's elite Radwan unit and Shiite militias supported by the IRGC in Idlib

What do you want? What's your point?

You are a fool. You are fighting Hezbollah's forces in Syria, we fought Hezbollah's forces in Lebanon, which are much much stronger. It's easy to enter a war torn country.

Besides, there's a huge difference in technology between 2006 and 2020. Unlike you, every day of our operation made it to international news, and we had our hands tied because of this. Nevertheless we still have shown that we are a superior military force.

 

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You are a fool. You are fighting Hezbollah's forces in Syria, we fought Hezbollah's forces in Lebanon, which are much much stronger. It's easy to enter a war torn country.

You are real fool

We fought Hezbollah + Shiite militias supported by the IRGC + ASSAD Regime who has Tanks , Howitzers , MLRS , Air Defense Systems , Helicopters , Fighter Jets and Russian military support

Besides, there's a huge difference in technology between 2006 and 2020

Israel had UCAV technology in 2006
so what technology are you talking about ?

 

[Beny Karachun]

You are real fool

We fought Hezbollah + Shiite militias supported by the IRGC + ASSAD Regime who has Tanks , Howitzers , MLRS , Air Defense Systems , Helicopters , Fighter Jets and Russian military support

And we fought entrenched soldiers in dense forests, mountains and populated cities and villages while being internationally slammed. You are not the only one that bombs Syria. You haven't touched Iranian troops ever, or Russian troops since the Su-24 incident.

I'm not downplaying your results, they were indeed impressive, but they are no better than our bombings.

Israel had UCAV technology in 2006
so what technology are you talking about ?

With older optics, worse connection, lesser numbers, more outdated armament.

 

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I'm not downplaying your results, they were indeed impressive, but they are no better than our bombings.

Your bombings are childish game for the Turkish Airforce ....... Turkish Airforce also can do it

and Russia allow Israel to bomb ASSAD Regime and Iran targets in Syria
also Israeli Airforce use 250 km DELILAH Cruise Missile to bomb Syria ... on the other hand yet Turkish Airforce did not use Cruise Missile in Syria

just Bayraktar TB-2 and ANKA-S UCAVs with 8km MAM-L laser guided ammunition killed 3.322 Assad Regime militia including 6 generals and Iran backed terrorists and destroyed
8 Air Defense Systems
155 Tanks
51 Howitzers
52 MLRS
29 AFVs
68 Military Vehicles
15 Anti Tank Weapons
36 Pick-up mounted anti aircraft guns
49 Ammunition Trucks
10 Ammunition Storage
2 Missile Systems


Russia,Iran,ASSAD Regime,Shiite Militias again preparing for attacking Idlib ...
Turkish Army with over 3.500 Tanks,Howitzers,IFVs,AFVs,MLRS and tens of thousands of Turkish - SNA soldiers are in Idlib to kick all of them

this time we will burn Lakatia and Damascus with Ballistic Missiles , MLRS and Turkish Airforce

 

[Beny Karachun]

Your bombings are childish game for the Turkish Airforce ....... Turkish Airforce also can do it

and Russia allow Israel to bomb ASSAD Regime and Iran targets in Syria
also Israeli Airforce use 250 km DELILAH Cruise Missile to bomb Syria ... on the other hand yet Turkish Airforce did not use Cruise Missile in Syria

just Bayraktar TB-2 and ANKA-S UCAVs with 8km MAM-L laser guided ammunition killed 3.322 Assad Regime militia including 6 generals and Iran backed terrorists and destroyed
8 Air Defense Systems
155 Tanks
51 Howitzers
52 MLRS
29 AFVs
68 Military Vehicles
15 Anti Tank Weapons
36 Pick-up mounted anti aircraft guns
49 Ammunition Trucks
10 Ammunition Storage
2 Missile Systems


Russia,Iran,ASSAD Regime,Shiite Militias again preparing for attacking Idlib ...
Turkish Army with over 3.500 Tanks,Howitzers,IFVs,AFVs,MLRS and tens of thousands of Turkish - SNA soldiers are in Idlib to kick all of them

this time we will burn Lakatia and Damascus with Ballistic Missiles , MLRS and Turkish Airforce

Our airforce is more capable and we both know that.

You're using drones to not risk pilots and we are using long range missiles and drones to not risk our pilots, I don't see your point.

Listen, we have common enemies in Syria, and I honestly wish you luck burning down Latkia and Damascus.

 

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Our airforce is more capable and we both know that.

Turkish Airforce can do everything that what Israeli Airforce is doing

-- 193 F-16 block50M/52 Fighter Jets equipped with most modern systems and weapons to operate day and night

Link-16 System
Self-Protection Electronic Warfare Suite (SPEWS II)
Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing Systems (JHMCS)
AN/AVS-9 Night Vision Goggles (NVG)
LANTIRN , SNIPER and ASELPOD Targetig Pods
26km AIM-9x sidewinder air to air missile
75km AIM-120B air to air missile
120km AIM-120C7 air to air missile
130 km JSOW glide Bomb
110 km KGK guided Bomb
150 km HARM anti radiation missile
280 km SLAM-ER cruise missile
280 km SOM cruise missile


-- Turkish Airforce has cooperative engagement capability with LINK-16 datalink , Boeing E7-T AEWCs , 120km AIM-120C7 networked air to air missile

-- Turkish Airforce has large scale operation capability with 7 Boeing KC-135 Air refueling Tankers

-- Turkish Airforce has KORAL and REDET Radar Electronic Warfare Systems and soon HAVASOJ airborne stand off Jammer Aircrafts

-- Turkish Airforce has great UCAV power .... Bayraktar TB-2 , ANKA-S ,, AKSUNGUR and soon AKINCI UCAV with AESA Radar , 65 km GOKDOGAN air to air missiles and 280 km SOM Cruise missile

-- Turkiye has developed its own mission computer , long range IFF System , Tactical Data Link , Targeting and Jamming Pods , AESA Radars , Electronic Warfare Systems , Cruise Missile , Laser guided and smart Bombs , Air to Air Missiles , Air Defense Systems , High energy LASER Weapons , UCAVs , Attack and Utility Helicopters ,Military and Communications Satellites , etc ...... ( only a few countries in the world )



Turkish Airforce has great experience and NATO standart training
Yes the US blocked sale of 100 F-35A Fighter Jets to the Turkish Airforce
but in near future Turkiye will have its own TFX Fighter Jet and MIUS jet engine powered UCAV

also soon HISAR , SIPER and S400 Air Defense Systems to block Turkish Airspace and Eastern Mediterranean against Fighter Jets


btw ERDOGAN spent over $60 billion for humanitarian aid to muslim countries ( most of them are Arabs ) between 2011 and 2019

but still Turkish Pilots use old F-4s ...

 

[BordoEnes]

Dunno why this has devolved into a dick measuring contest.

 

[KAL-EL]

Dunno why this has devolved into a dick measuring contest.

Sadly that’s what many threads on PDF devolve into.

 

[Beny Karachun]

Turkish Airforce can do everything that what Israeli Airforce is doing

-- 193 F-16 block50M/52 Fighter Jets equipped with most modern systems and weapons to operate day and night

Link-16 System
Self-Protection Electronic Warfare Suite (SPEWS II)
Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing Systems (JHMCS)
AN/AVS-9 Night Vision Goggles (NVG)
LANTIRN , SNIPER and ASELPOD Targetig Pods
26km AIM-9x sidewinder air to air missile
75km AIM-120B air to air missile
120km AIM-120C7 air to air missile
130 km JSOW glide Bomb
110 km KGK guided Bomb
150 km HARM anti radiation missile
280 km SLAM-ER cruise missile
280 km SOM cruise missile


-- Turkish Airforce has cooperative engagement capability with LINK-16 datalink , Boeing E7-T AEWCs , 120km AIM-120C7 networked air to air missile

-- Turkish Airforce has large scale operation capability with 7 Boeing KC-135 Air refueling Tankers

-- Turkish Airforce has KORAL and REDET Radar Electronic Warfare Systems and soon HAVASOJ airborne stand off Jammer Aircrafts

-- Turkish Airforce has great UCAV power .... Bayraktar TB-2 , ANKA-S ,, AKSUNGUR and soon AKINCI UCAV with AESA Radar , 65 km GOKDOGAN air to air missiles and 280 km SOM Cruise missile

-- Turkiye has developed its own mission computer , long range IFF System , Tactical Data Link , Targeting and Jamming Pods , AESA Radars , Electronic Warfare Systems , Cruise Missile , Laser guided and smart Bombs , Air to Air Missiles , Air Defense Systems , High energy LASER Weapons , UCAVs , Attack and Utility Helicopters ,Military and Communications Satellites , etc ...... ( only a few countries in the world )



Turkish Airforce has great experience and NATO standart training
Yes the US blocked sale of 100 F-35A Fighter Jets to the Turkish Airforce
but in near future Turkiye will have its own TFX Fighter Jet and MIUS jet engine powered UCAV

also soon HISAR , SIPER and S400 Air Defense Systems to block Turkish Airspace and Eastern Mediterranean against Fighter Jets


btw ERDOGAN spent over $60 billion for humanitarian aid to muslim countries ( most of them are Arabs ) between 2011 and 2019

but still Turkish Pilots use old F-4s ...

Why do you have to show all the capabilities and names of every weapon system you have 1000 times? It doesn't add any value to the conversation.

Israel has the F-35 now so Turkey definitely doesn't have the same capabilities. Also Israel has the F-15 which is a better platform than the F-16, which it also has.

 

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Why do you have to show all the capabilities and names of every weapon system you have 1000 times? It doesn't add any value to the conversation.

Israel has the F-35 now so Turkey definitely doesn't have the same capabilities. Also Israel has the F-15 which is a better platform than the F-16, which it also has.

its not 1990s its 2020

Your F-15s and F-35s will be destroyed by Turkish land-naval-air based Missiles BORA , SOM , ATMACA and soon GEZGIN in Israeli Airbases and Jet Hangars

btw Turkiye bought S400 Air Defense System which can turn Israeli F-15s into crap of metal over the Eastern Mediterranean

also Turkish Airforce has cooperative engagement capability with F-16 + LINK-16 datalink , Boeing E7-T AEWCs , 120km AIM-120C7 networked air to air missile to match with F-15s in BVR combat

and F-35 still not combat proven and there are many problems with F-35s

 

[BON PLAN]

if France has enough power then come and stop the Turkish Armed Forces in the Eastern Mediterranean

France is strong in the Western Mediterranean
France never can match with the Turkish Armed Forces in the Eastern Mediterranean
so you can dream about your nukes ...... Eastern Mediterranean is belong to the Turkish Armed Forces

Just a SSN in front of the main turkisk harbour and it's the end of the game.

in 1996 Turkish F-16 was unarmed against Greek Mirage-2000

maybe.
No flare?
Magic 2 was a that time a quite old short range missile.... But it works (see AIM9X in Syrian airspace...). And just imagine how works a MICA IR....

today Turkish F-16 easly can destroy Greek Mirage-2000 in BVR combat ,,, thanks to network centric warfare and cooperative engagement capability

-- Link16 data link
-- 120 km AIM-120C7 networked Air to Air Missile
-- Boeing E-7T AEWC which can detect Fighter Jets from 380km away

And don't you think Rafale are network centric ?
Rafale is Meteor equipped, a missile with 3 times the No Escape Zone of latest AMRAAM missile (Maybe not the D model, but sure the C7). AMRAAM nez against a fighter is at least 60km. Again a slow moving target (tanker, awacs...) it is far far grater. Some said in the 150 to 200km....
An AWACS can't detect all plane at 380km.... it depends of its RCS, and if Rafale is not a true VLO bird, it is a LO one.

So....

Turkiye can mobilize 20 million men power in 72 hours in a war

35 millions with these ones....

Bro just shut up
You're not impressing anyone, especially not the Israeli army.

The israeli armys are the best trained and equipped of the world.
They smashed 4 heavy arab country, so it's not Turkey, a frog who takes herself for an ox, that is seen as a credible opponent.

Turkey has the quantity. Israel all the rest.

 

[MMM-E]

Just a SSN in front of the main turkisk harbour and it's the end of the game.

only in your dreams

maybe.
No flare?
Magic 2 was a that time a quite old short range missile.... But it works (see AIM9X in Syrian airspace...). And just imagine how works a MICA IR...

Greek Mirage-2000 armed with 60km MICA
Turkish F-16s with 120km AIM-120C7

btw Turkiye bought S400 Air Defense System which can turn Greek Mirage-2000s into crap of metal even over Athens
and Turkish BORA Ballistic Missiles can destroy Greek Air Bases which hosts Mirage-2000s and F-16s

Greece is nothing to compare with regional super power TURKIYE

And don't you think Rafale are network centric ?
Rafale is Meteor equipped, a missile with 3 times the No Escape Zone of latest AMRAAM missile (Maybe not the D model, but sure the C7). AMRAAM nez against a fighter is at least 60km. Again a slow moving target (tanker, awacs...) it is far far grater. Some said in the 150 to 200km....
An AWACS can't detect all plane at 380km.... it depends of its RCS, and if Rafale is not a true VLO bird, it is a LO one.

Boeing E-7T AEWC can detect Greek Mirage-2000 and F-16 at 380km

and Greek Airforce doesnt have Rafale Fighter Jet with METEOR missile
btw Turkiye bought S400 Air Defense System which can turn RAFALE into crap of metal

35 millions with these ones....

Turkiye is militaric country and Turkish Army since 209 BC
and in Turkiye compulsory military service applies to all male citizens from 20 to 41 years of age.


do you know what about SEFERBERLIK ( Mobilization ) ?
It is the fast recruitment of reserve personnel in the age to meet the needs of the Turkish Armed Forces in case of war

in a war all Turkish men between 20 and 41 years old have to go to the province / district that is written in their order of applying to the Head of Military Service within 48 hour


btw in a war 83 million Turks will fight against enemies .......
1915 Gallipoli war Turks kicked French+British

The israeli armys are the best trained and equipped of the world.
They smashed 4 heavy arab country, so it's not Turkey, a frog who takes herself for an ox, that is seen as a credible opponent.

Turkey has the quantity. Israel all the rest.

even Iran trained Hezbollah kicked Israeli Army in 2006
Israel can match with only pathetic Arabs who can not produce even Cruise Missile

only Turkish Missiles BORA , SOM , ATMACA , KGK-LR , KARGU and soon GEZGIN will be enough for tiny Israel



and never forget that the TURKS ( Ottoman Empire ) saved and protected France and King I. François from Germans for 200 years between 16th and 18th centuries