NATO is weak. NATO will back off if Russia attacks Lithuania or other small NATO countries

[Beast]

Russia will not take its chances with a NATO member state. This is pointless thread.

Russia and China will soon how useless NATO is.

The selfish NATO will only ask small countries to rally support for major NATO members but when comes to protect small NATO members, the major NATO members will ask them to defend themselves.

 

[LeGenD]

Russia and China will soon how useless NATO is.

Russia and China will invade NATO?

 

[Beast]

Russia and China will invade NATO?

If there is a need, it will. If there is need to teach litnhunia how to behave, China will.

East Asian is not scare of kamikaze but it's the coward European that don't dare to do it. If there is need to play the stake of nuke. China will.

China will threaten to play nuke if there is need to attack litnhunia or Taiwan. Any countries dare to interfere will be nuke by China. We are prepare to bring the whole western countries and perish together with them. That is the stake we will raise.

If western world just step back and watch our show, nothing will happened.

 

[LeGenD]

If there is a need, it will. If there is need to teach litnhunia how to behave, China will.

Good luck with that, my friend. You will need it.

Only an ignorant Asian would think Europeans and Russians would trade nuclear weapons on the battlefield.

It would be like Yugoslavia with an air war and sure some dummies in a foreign embassy will stay because they also will think the only option is plan "d" and that nothing will happen to them...oooops.

Would be better to address the individual directly instead of using the term "Asian."

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

says some no name keyboard warrior

Xi would shit in his pants if nukes get used

NATO turned out to be a worthless garbage, the whole world sees it.

I think it will disband soon

 

[Zhukov]

People are seriously Undermining NATO here.
Ukaraine is not part of NATO Treaty. Its pretty much the sore spot of Communist reorganization of Russian empire after WW1. It was part of Russian Empire. And whole world knows. Its not a Historical Country per say for Modern Times. Infact Ukarain is the region where Modern Russian History Started. And seeing this bulwark slavic region going in camp of western Europe will not have gone silently with Russians.
Ukarain Belarus issues is nothing compared to a NATO member state.
And i dont know why people take Europe as for granted.
Even without USA People seriously believe Russia can take on Germany France Spain Italy UK united? And Turkey will also take Western Europe side.
Russian cannot even take on Europe let alone USA and will not do so.
I can never wrap my head around the fact that People talk about Germany France UK as if they are some puny Central Asian states.

 

[khansaheeb]

How would things go if Russia attacked Lithuania?
1) Assemble 500k troops and attack Russia.
2) Russia uses tactical nuclear weapons to destroy 10k NATO troops.
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What will NATO do it? 4 options.
a. Use of nuclear weapons on the Russian mainland.
b. Use of nuclear weapons against Russian troops in Lithuania. Russia fought back with nuclear weapons. In any case, the NATO army will be completely destroyed
c. The two sides cease fire. Russia remains likely to use tactical nuclear weapons.
d. NATO forces retreat.

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I bet NATO can only choose d

Putin has seen the weakness of NATO, and he has no scruples.

Don't think using nukes should be contemplated or discussed.

 

[hualushui]

Yes because they don't want nuclear fallout drifting into Western Russian territory. Eastern area near China is fine

Russian population density

Nuclear radiation has no deterrent.
You are avoiding the question, and you are afraid to even answer it head-on.

Russia does not have 500,000 troops.

I mean, NATO amassing 500k troops.
No, Russia has a million troops.

USA will use nukes to deter Russia to repulse any nuclear attack on Lithuania. The entire NATO would rally behind USA

U.S. nuclear weapons have no deterrent to Russia.
Because Russia has just as many nuclear weapons.

 

[nahtanbob]

NATO turned out to be a worthless garbage, the whole world sees it.

I think it will disband soon

china will fall into pacific ocean

 

[hualushui]

Don't think using nukes should be contemplated or discussed.

War has no exclusion zone.
Nuclear weapons are inhumane, but that doesn't mean they won't be used.
If you don't consider this possibility, you will get failure

china will fall into pacific ocean

In your dream

 

[MH.Yang]

Russia's attack on Ukraine is completely different from its attack on the three Baltic countries. Russia's annexation of Lithuania will transform NATO from an economic alliance to a military alliance.

 

[hualushui]

Russia will not take its chances with a NATO member state. This is pointless thread.

This is an assumption.
Also, I don't agree with you. I have made my point that if Russia invades NATO, NATO will have to back down and compromise. If Russia dares to use nuclear weapons, NATO is a bunch of sheep without any deterrent capabilities.

 

[nahtanbob]

Russia's attack on Ukraine is completely different from its attack on the three Baltic countries. Russia's annexation of Lithuania will transform NATO from an economic alliance to a military alliance.

NATO is a military alliance

EU is an economic alliance. All the EU members that are not NATO members (Austria, Sweden, Finland, Ireland) might join NATO

 

[hualushui]

Russia's attack on Ukraine is completely different from its attack on the three Baltic countries. Russia's annexation of Lithuania will transform NATO from an economic alliance to a military alliance.

What's the difference?
What price will Russia pay if it takes over Lithuania?
Nothing

 

[LeGenD]

This is an assumption.
Also, I don't agree with you. I have made my point that if Russia invades NATO, NATO will have to back down and compromise. If Russia dares to use nuclear weapons, NATO is a bunch of sheep without any deterrent capabilities.

Russia can take on one country at a time but it cannot challenge NATO as a whole.

Have a look at NATO defensive positions:

https://www.nato.int/nato_static_fl2014/assets/pdf/2021/4/pdf/210426-map-det-def-en-s.pdf

More coming:

NATO's Eastern Flank To Be Fortified By U.S. F-35s, AH-64s, Troops

Biden ordered the deployment of additional American forces after declaring that Russia has invaded Ukraine.

www.thedrive.com

Russia will loose much of its army in the Baltics, let alone be in the position to advance further. There is too much ground to cover and NATO technologies are incredibly sophisticated on top. NATO is far more capable in network-centric warfare techniques and operations in nighttime conditions.

Even if China provide troops to Russia in Baltics, they won't may any difference.