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NATO has decided to fight Russia through Ukraine's foreign legion

This will be a tough task to achieve with NATO troops joining the war covertly as Ukraine's foreign legion forces.
Then Ukraine will be trashed.
The Ukrainians really need to get a grasp of the situation and come up with a vision of how to co exist with a powerful neighbour.
The Western powers have nothing to lose here. I'm sure they are prepared to fight to the last Ukrainian or Russian, whichever comes first as long as it's not on their soil.
Syria 2.0.
 
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Then Ukraine will be trashed.
The Ukrainians really need to get a grasp of the situation and come up with a vision of how to co exist with a powerful neighbour.
The Western powers have nothing to lose here. I'm sure they are prepared to fight to the last Ukrainian or Russian, whichever comes first as long as it's not on their soil.
Syria 2.0.

No Russia needs to grasp with the situation on how to co-exist with Ukraine. Unless Putin decides Ukraine still doesn't exist anymore in his mind. Because he needs to realize that the NATO countries that border with Russia is not a threat and have not been for many years since they join NATO. There is no massive armies ready to invade Russia, there are no IRBMs or Tomahawk missiles based there. No one is interested in invading Russia or anything like that. Now Russia's actions is pushing Finland and Sweden to join NATO besides Ukraine who lost territory to Russia years ago which why understandably wants to join NATO but NATO refused because of the fighting in Luhansk and Donbass.
 
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No Russia needs to grasp with the situation on how to co-exist with Ukraine. Unless Putin decides Ukraine still doesn't exist anymore in his mind. Because he needs to realize that the NATO countries that border with Russia is not a threat and have not been for many years since they join NATO. There is no massive armies ready to invade Russia, there are no IRBMs or Tomahawk missiles based there. No one is interested in invading Russia or anything like that. Now Russia's actions is pushing Finland and Sweden to join NATO besides Ukraine who lost territory to Russia years ago which why understandably wants to join NATO but NATO refused because of the fighting in Luhansk and Donbass.
OK, have it your way.
 
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Russia already shares border with 3 NATO member states in Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia respectively.
Unlike Ukraine, the Baltic countries joined NATO in 2002, when Russia was unable to stop it.
Unlike Ukraine, the three Baltic countries lack strategic depth and pose little threat to Russia.
Unlike Ukraine, the three Baltic countries are all people anti Russia, and Russia has no room for action.
 
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Unlike Ukraine, the Baltic countries joined NATO in 2002, when Russia was unable to stop it.
Unlike Ukraine, the three Baltic countries lack strategic depth and pose little threat to Russia.
Unlike Ukraine, the three Baltic countries are all people anti Russia, and Russia has no room for action.
You need to know the reason why those state hate Russian. Not becos Russia is really bad but US constant meddling and huge propaganda fund pour in thru NGO to create hatre against Russia with false lies and false allegation.

Same as happening in Hong Kong and Taiwan. This is called subversion. Enough is enough.
 
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You need to know the reason why those state hate Russian. Not becos Russia is really bad but US constant meddling and huge propaganda fund pour in thru NGO to create hatre against Russia with false lies and false allegation.

Same as happening in Hong Kong and Taiwan. This is called subversion. Enough is enough.

Any big country has ambitions. The ambitions of China and USA mainly focus on the economy, while Russia has an endless appetite for territory.
Although I like Russia very much, and the my custom avatar can prove that, I understand the fear and disgust of the Baltic countries towards Russia.
You are Chinese, you can't understand them.
 
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You need to know the reason why those state hate Russian. Not becos Russia is really bad but US constant meddling and huge propaganda fund pour in thru NGO to create hatre against Russia with false lies and false allegation.

Same as happening in Hong Kong and Taiwan. This is called subversion. Enough is enough.
Baltics hate Russia because of Soviet Times not US propaganda. Same reason Chezk republic , Poland and Slovakia Hates Russia. Back in the hay days of Soviet union , The Russian General Secretary of the CCCP used to control these states behind Iron curtain eith Iron Fist. Quilled any public unrest with tanks and Brute force. And CCCP was dominated with Russian SSR.
Its their internal matter and History.
After Fall of Nazi Germany , Marshal Stalin Gobelled up all of Eastern Europe from the vacuum created by fall of Axis powers. And they werent very popular by the end of Cold war. The ghost of that era haunts Europe to this day and shape Russia-Europr Relations to this day.
 
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I respect your opinion. But seems like it's not the real reason. Also, see the @LeGenD reply.
The area under black lines will be in Russia soon. And war can stop here, if Turkey behaves itself after 2022.

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I have doubt too, this all fiasco beside Ukraine, something has to do with Turkey 2023 100 year accord too. Plus, Turkey supplied weapon to counter Russian armed forces. The coastline has will be gone and will be in hand of Russia.
 
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I have doubt too, this all fiasco beside Ukraine, something has to do with Turkey 2023 100 year accord too. Plus, Turkey supplied weapon to counter Russian armed forces. The coastline has will be gone and will be in hand of Russia.
As I said before, Europe poked the Russian Bear with stick too many times... And here is the bear awake from deep sleep.
 
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yeah okay ukraine had turned itself into a sespool of militias and proxies in a matter of 4 days...handing out assault rifles and tons of ammo to the public, do you really think the government would get it back if Russia decides to pull back to the intl border? the hell no they aren't gonna get even a single bullet back, free guns and free ammo never returned! you can look forward to ukraine turning into the somalia or rwanda of the early 90s.
 
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Brothers in arms: Estonians, Latvians, Poles and Georgians travel to border crossings to join Ukrainians in the fight against Putin's army, writes NICK PISA on the Poland-Ukraine border​

  • Volunteers from Baltic states and Poland travelling to Ukraine to fight Russians
  • Poles, Estonians, Georgians and Latvians are all arriving at Polish border to fight
  • President Volodymr Zelensky had directly appealed for combat veterans help
  • Zelensky had said joining the fight in Ukraine was 'necessary' to defend Europe
 
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Brothers in arms: Estonians, Latvians, Poles and Georgians travel to border crossings to join Ukrainians in the fight against Putin's army, writes NICK PISA on the Poland-Ukraine border​

  • Volunteers from Baltic states and Poland travelling to Ukraine to fight Russians
  • Poles, Estonians, Georgians and Latvians are all arriving at Polish border to fight
  • President Volodymr Zelensky had directly appealed for combat veterans help
  • Zelensky had said joining the fight in Ukraine was 'necessary' to defend Europe
Neo nazis from their country coming to help help the Neo nazi reign
 
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Unlike Ukraine, the Baltic countries joined NATO in 2002, when Russia was unable to stop it.
Unlike Ukraine, the three Baltic countries lack strategic depth and pose little threat to Russia.
Unlike Ukraine, the three Baltic countries are all people anti Russia, and Russia has no room for action.
Good analysis. I always wondered why Russia didn’t see the Baltics as just as much a threat as Ukraine. It was not about the threat, it was about rebuilding the Russian empire; and for that you need the heartland of the Kievan Rus. Also, Ukraine was vital in production for the Soviet Union and before it the Russian empire; food and technical products like weapons, as well as the only river in the Russian empire that doesn’t freeze over in winter and flows south into a major port city; Odessa. The parallels could also be made that an extremist government in India could claim the Indus civilization is there own, rather than they are a separate civilization based on the Ganges.
 
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True but

Baltics = East Pakistan

Ukraine = Punjab
So given a choice, if you woke up with a start, and found yourself with a fine, well-brushed moustache, where would you take the Indian Army? To attack the Punjab, or attack East Pakistan?
 
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