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NATO allies commit around $1 billion per year to support Afghan forces

Calling whatever you want mate, but there is a strong international commitment and I am sure this is giving some food for thought for the architects of the Talis in GHQ :)



On the contrary I see this as strong commitment and belief by NATO/US and others in the ability of the NUG to keep standing at the end of all this.
The architects for the Afghan Taliban is not the GHQ but internal issues inside Afghanistan. Plus the invasion of their country and all that went along with it. GHQ is an auxillary to them. Even if this auxillary went away, the Afghan Taliban and other Afghan groups will continue to fight as their country was invaded and some of their compatriots colluded with the invader. They cannot accept this.

Besides NATO is not going to leave without achieving her mission; if NATO can achieve this indirectly via the NATO created Afghan state post 9/11 she will gladly take that. NATO will be there for decades to come of course "hosted" by a gracious Afghan state.
 
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The architects for the Afghan Taliban is not the GHQ but internal issues inside Afghanistan. Plus the invasion of their country and all that went along with it. GHQ is an auxillary to them. Even if this auxillary went away, the Afghan Taliban and other Afghan groups will continue to fight as their country was invaded and some of their compatriots colluded with the invader. They cannot accept this.

Besides NATO is not going to leave without achieving her mission; if NATO can achieve this indirectly via the NATO created Afghan state post 9/11 she will gladly take that. NATO will be there for decades to come of course "hosted" by a gracious Afghan state.

There you go, you have hit the nail on its head, the sooner the GHQ planners realize this the better, ( they are banking on NATO leaving ) thus supporting proxies to pursue their objectives. If GHQ realizes that NATO is here to stay and their proxes can't win, they will do business with the AF Gov which wil put an end to this chaos.

Trust on Afghan Govt and its supa powa fauj


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hahahahahah, those guys always give me a lol moment :)

But on a serious note, this is a pretty old video, besides you don't need these dudes to do proper jumping jacks, what you need is a dude who can shoot properly and has the courage to pursue the enemy. ( In these cases they do) :)
 
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There you go, you have hit the nail on its head, the sooner the GHQ planners realize this the better, ( they are banking on NATO leaving ) thus supporting proxies to pursue their objectives. If GHQ realizes that NATO is here to stay and their proxes can't win, they will do business with the AF Gov which wil put an end to this chaos.



hahahahahah, those guys always give me a lol moment :)

But on a serious note, this is a pretty old video, besides you don't need these dudes to do proper jumping jacks, what you need is a dude who can shoot properly and has the courage to pursue the enemy. ( In these cases they do) :)

But why should GHQ change its policies, what advantage does a stable Afghanistan have for us?
 
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There you go, you have hit the nail on its head, the sooner the GHQ planners realize this the better, ( they are banking on NATO leaving ) thus supporting proxies to pursue their objectives. If GHQ realizes that NATO is here to stay and their proxes can't win, they will do business with the AF Gov which wil put an end to this chaos.



hahahahahah, those guys always give me a lol moment :)

But on a serious note, this is a pretty old video, besides you don't need these dudes to do proper jumping jacks, what you need is a dude who can shoot properly and has the courage to pursue the enemy. ( In these cases they do) :)
I think you may have misunderstood me. NATO invaded Afghanistan to destabilise Pakistan, contain China and Russia. Although NATO has willing partners in their strategic interests she has still more do. Hence she will stay or rather be "invited to stay" and give succor. She did not realise that Pakistan would put up such a fight especially given the corrupt leaders inherent within.
 
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But can they beat Afghan Taliban i doubt
Define beat.
Remove them for power - Yes
Completely flip the country and bring about democracy- yes
Push them to hold villages and barren outskirts, even if it holds large swaths of barren lands- Yes
Hold every inch of Afghanistan - No
Prevent Pakistan from supporting them - NO

We did not go to rule afghanistan, we went to revenge our 911 and we changed Afghanistan to a point where never again will it be ruled by the Taliban.

But why should GHQ change its policies, what advantage does a stable Afghanistan have for us?

I notice that it is always Pakistan's sitting in Christian/western ideologies, enjoying their freedoms and standard of living, peace etc. that lecture the homeland pakistanis to continue with their terror supporting policies.
 
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NATO allies commit around $1 billion per year to support Afghan forces
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Published: July 9, 2016
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NATO allies stump up around $1 billion a year over the next three years to help fund the Afghan military PHOTO: REUTERS

WARSAW: NATO allies have promised the United States they will stump up around $1 billion a year over the next three years to help fund the Afghan military, NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said on Saturday.

Germany slams NATO ‘warmongering’ on Russia

“We now have in place the $1 billion of non-US commitments,” Stoltenberg told a news conference on the second day of a NATO summit. He hinted there were still some pledges to come in, adding, “We are very close (to the target)”.

Russia says bolstering forces to counter NATO

“We are ready to stay … that’s the reason we are ready to stay beyond 2016,” Stoltenberg said on NATO’s mission to train the Afghan armed forces, which will continue into 2017 with 12,000 NATO and US troops
I feel really bad as these 1 billion dollars goes directly to Gutter.

Remove them for power - Yes
They are still much more power full. Even more powerful then the puppet afghan gov. , whose authority is fragile even in Kabul city.

Push them to hold villages and barren outskirts, even if it holds large swaths of barren lands- Yes
Come on , be realistic.
Taliban's are in control in many major cities. They target evsn the most secure zones inside the capital city on frequent basis.

Afghan and NATO countries are begging them for peace talks. Aghan national army can't defend itself alone from Talibans.

we changed Afghanistan to a point where never again will it be ruled by the Taliban
You are terribly optimistic.
 
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I feel really bad as these 1 billion dollars goes directly to Gutter.


They are still much more power full. Even more powerful then the puppet afghan gov. , whose authority is fragile even in Kabul city.


Come on , be realistic.
Taliban's are in control in many major cities. They target evsn the most secure zones inside the capital city on frequent basis.

Afghan and NATO countries are begging them for peace talks. Aghan national army can't defend itself alone from Talibans.


You are terribly optimistic.

To be fair- under your realistic guidelines- Pakistan then is in the same place yeah? NWF and other parts of frontiers are not ruled by your govt. really. South- balochistan is really not under your full control.

Anyways, being realistic is recognizing that we came, we drove out taliban's from the heart of commerce and economic centers. we instituted democracy, we killed Osama in your country, we have decapitated AQ leadership. Some are still in Pakistan and we hope to get them too.

Afghanistan is not going backwards. and it will become a responsible viable country. It took you and India several decades post independence, without interference. Afghans have pakistan military thinking of them as their property, and don't want to give that up- so_ it will be difficult, and will take decades.
 
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Only $1 billion a year now? Sounds Afghans may have to work for themselves soon at this rate.
 
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These are just commits/pledges and not actual payments
Whatever money will be allocated will be money down the drain

Pakistan should just work on border closure and demarcation, that's all we care about

@A-Team you were bluffing that the gate the constrction has halted , here enjoy this


We intend boxing you in Afghanistan and leave you to your own fate
 
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Define beat.
Remove them for power - Yes
Completely flip the country and bring about democracy- yes
Push them to hold villages and barren outskirts, even if it holds large swaths of barren lands- Yes
Hold every inch of Afghanistan - No
Prevent Pakistan from supporting them - NO

We did not go to rule afghanistan, we went to revenge our 911 and we changed Afghanistan to a point where never again will it be ruled by the Taliban.



I notice that it is always Pakistan's sitting in Christian/western ideologies, enjoying their freedoms and standard of living, peace etc. that lecture the homeland pakistanis to continue with their terror supporting policies.

People in Pakistan dont realize that the current Afghanistan is a completely different country than the one ruled by a bunch of monkey aka Afghan Talis. There is no turning back for Afghanistan, the last decade of stability has seen millions of kids go to school who are now adults, they are technology savvy, they have access to social media, women who are well represented in all walks of life, GHQ must pivot her polices vis-a-vis Afghanistan, the likes of Mullah Mansoor is not the future of Afghanistan but the likes of Ashraf Ghani and thousands like him will represent Afghanistan.

I am just one product of this stability, and I am as competitive and educated if not more than my peers in Pakistan or the Western World,

/Peace

But why should GHQ change its policies, what advantage does a stable Afghanistan have for us?

Because if they don't change their policies, there will be a price to pay in terms of destabilized, radicalized and marginalized Pakistan. Like it is today, don't believe what the Jernals tell that all is well, no it is not. You should listen to some of the media and read some of the papers that are outside GHQ's influence.

I think you may have misunderstood me. NATO invaded Afghanistan to destabilise Pakistan, contain China and Russia. Although NATO has willing partners in their strategic interests she has still more do. Hence she will stay or rather be "invited to stay" and give succor. She did not realise that Pakistan would put up such a fight especially given the corrupt leaders inherent within.

Stop believing in conspiracy theories my friend, NATO has better things to do then destabilize Pakistan.
Can you give me one concrete reason as to why would NATO destabilize Pakistan?
 
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@A-Team I think you really have a grudge against GHQ. But I cannot understand why? Maybe because you are not aware of truth and reality and are deceived by lies... Even the Indians do not hate GHQ as much as you do...
 
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People in Pakistan dont realize that the current Afghanistan is a completely different country than the one ruled by a bunch of monkey aka Afghan Talis. There is no turning back for Afghanistan, the last decade of stability has seen millions of kids go to school who are now adults, they are technology savvy, they have access to social media, women who are well represented in all walks of life, GHQ must pivot her polices vis-a-vis Afghanistan, the likes of Mullah Mansoor is not the future of Afghanistan but the likes of Ashraf Ghani and thousands like him will represent Afghanistan.

I am just one product of this stability, and I am as competitive and educated if not more than my peers in Pakistan or the Western World,

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If afghanistan is doing so well why did its GDP per capita slide from $ 600 in 2015 to $ 527 this year and from $ 20 billion economy to $ 17 billion? Your income and economy is decreasing , security is worsening how are things okay ? Just because people in afghanistan use facebook now doesn't mean they are going forward .
 
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@A-Team I think you really have a grudge against GHQ. But I cannot understand why? Maybe because you are not aware of truth and reality and are deceived by lies... Even the Indians do not hate GHQ as much as you do...

I don't hate GHQ or any other institutions per se, you are my muslim brother, my fate does not allow me to hate anyone especially a muslim, but GHQ is pursuing a policy that kills afghans daily so I am voicing my disapproval.

If you were in my place you would do the same.

I am proposing that what ever differences Pakistan has with Afghanistan should be pursued with diplomacy and conversation and not via supporting Taliban.

If afghanistan is doing so well why did its GDP per capita slide from $ 600 in 2015 to $ 527 this year and from $ 20 billion economy to $ 17 billion? Your income and economy is decreasing , security is worsening how are things okay ? Just because people in afghanistan use facebook now doesn't mean they are going forward .

Using facebook shows that there is critical infrastructure that supports telecommunication, internet etc and in this case 3G internet, ( Afghanistan had 3G well before Pakistan) that there is enough literacy that people can use social media ( i.e. afghans are more educated than before). All these indicators show that there is progress.

In the Taliban time people used to travel to neighbouring countries just to make a phone call, there was no internet at all.

WoW They invented a new techniques clap in air alert the enemy
hahahah :D they are bunch of funny dudes though :)
 
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