Naswarville

[Hyperion]

Dude, the information required for it is not that detailed, could've been exchanged under the table on one data disk. Don't compare this to cryo engine or something. My bet, Russia or Israel aided you. Btw, sensors required for it can be bought of the shelf. Furthermore, China has done it long way back, there may not be much info online about it. What they are doing atm is fixing their ground network (early warning) for the past one decade.

@Hyperion its a bit different, highly discriminating KKV (ergo the IR sensor) for interception of maneuvering warheads and MARVs. As in we are talking direct hit to kill even with high terminal phase lateral acceleration. That's not difficult for the US maybe but it sure is for us, even China has one in the works according to rumor but nothing concrete and the Israelis are riding the American train for it. So it would be logical if we had tapped some resource, remember most of us don't even make sensors for these sorts of weapons- hell when even China goes the Korshun way for getting guidance system IPRs then its a little fishy if we suddenly find ourselves with a sensor fused kill vehicle- that's all I am saying.

 

[Hyperion]

Yaro, see you all later in the day. Loads of errands, that I need to run for.

 

[Dillinger]

Dude, the information required for it is not that detailed, could've been exchanged under the table on one data disk. Don't compare this to cryo engine or something. My bet, Russia or Israel aided you. Btw, sensors required for it can be bought of the shelf. Furthermore, China has done it long way back, there may not be much info online about it. What they are doing atm is fixing their ground network (early warning) for the past one decade.

Yaara China hasn't demonstrated any system for terminal interception with very high lateral acceleration, good velocity and range yes but nothing like the SM-2 Block-4s and all. There is a difference between an interceptor which have good resistance to decoys and ESM, which is also capable of high speed terminal interception and an interceptor on the other hand meant for interception of a high maneuvering warhead- specially on a DTBM. The latter has only so far been shown by the Muricans and their spin off on the Israeli system. So the Chinese definitely have shown exo-atmospheric/mid-course interception but not this..not so far. Israel perhaps, the vehicle was never the issue since all the TVC related design and fab even on the Barak-NG was ours, its the sensor fusion with a very robust performance which we would have needed help in- it might have occurred during LRDE's work on the previous block of IR sensors when they had some help with the cooling.

 

[RAMPAGE]

@Dillinger @Hyperion

How would Israel intercept an intermediate Ballistic Missile with 4 to 6 mirv warheads ...... will arrow 2 be used to intercept the warheads once they are seperated ???

 

[Dillinger]

@Dillinger @Hyperion

How would Israel intercept an intermediate Ballistic Missile with 4 to 6 mirv warheads ...... will arrow 2 be used to intercept the warheads once they are seperated ???

Depends on what advancements are present, a multi spectral IR sensor with a robust KKV, multiple interceptors and a good FCR, but even then its dicey.

They have already achieved SM-2 BLock-4 levelA performance. They achieved high lateral acceleration/high discrimination/sustained kinematic performance at the edge of the interception envelope (albeit with lesser over all velocity and altitude, which are purely based on design constraints of the specific interceptor rather than the tech- makes sense since they were looking only for terminal head on interception of NLOS-BMs in addition to other criteria). Although it cannot provide TBMD across the same area as the SM-2 variant in question (100km by 50km area) since its not meant to provide theater wide protection but rather just protection for the ship and expeditionary group in question. So the same capabilities carried over to high velocity and high altitude interceptors should provide good capabilities but even then with MIRVs and decoys it is always dicey since no 100% successful system exists.

 

[Ayush]

@Jessica_L milady

 

[Ayush]

@Dillinger u are a bihari

 

[SQ8]

@Oscar Hmmm...I have gone through your previous posts on the matter of PAF's ability to sustain a conflict. The time frame is a bit pessimistic, I think the aviators you've talked to will end up exceeding their own expectations, more than the 3 week time frame for sure- a month in the least given the transition we have seen since the early 2000s to today with the AEW&C and JFs. How old were these scenarios, as in how long back did you talk to the aviators. Btw the cat's finally out of the bag, something me and a few folks had been harping about for quite some time, by this time next year the ADA is going to be VERY sore. More on that later though.

2011..


And the assessment is based on an all out brawl. A complete all out no holds barred conventional brawl. The issue is not one of 1 for 1 combat or loss scenario; its about the whole geography of Pakistan as a whole and how it is difficult for the PAF to continue falling back onto dispersed sites to survive. Sure, they will definitely have certain assets running after 3 weeks..but its effectiveness to continue providing support to the PA and protect secure sites will be at fairly low levels. That being said, that the PAF will achieve in the first week will be enough to set the opposing force back at least five to ten years in terms of a low of things.

 

[Dillinger]

2011..


And the assessment is based on an all out brawl. A complete all out no holds barred conventional brawl. The issue is not one of 1 for 1 combat or loss scenario; its about the whole geography of Pakistan as a whole and how it is difficult for the PAF to continue falling back onto dispersed sites to survive. Sure, they will definitely have certain assets running after 3 weeks..but its effectiveness to continue providing support to the PA and protect secure sites will be at fairly low levels. That being said, that the PAF will achieve in the first week will be enough to set the opposing force back at least five to ten years in terms of a low of things.

And what sort of damage assessment do you think will apply for Pakistani assets and infra (non-PAF) which we will target?

No comment on my dream?

@Dillinger u are a bihari

Half bihari, half bong. Why? Kono issue hai kya babua? Kichu perturb korche tomake, tor comment ta dekhe bujhte parchi na ki problem ta ki? Now If you want we can converse in other languages too- 8 tongues and counting baby..

 

[Ayush]

And what sort of damage assessment do you think will apply for Pakistani assets and infra (non-PAF) which we will target?

No comment on my dream?



Half bihari, half bong. Why? Kono issue hai kya babua? Kichu perturb korche tomake, tor comment ta dekhe bujhte parchi na ki problem ta ki? Now If you want we can converse in other languages too- 8 tongues and counting baby..

no,your father is a bihari and so are you..
tell this to dray,NOW

 

[Dillinger]

no,your father is a bihari and so are you..
tell this to dray,NOW

Kyun kya ukhadega tu be?

 

[Ayush]

Kyun kya ukhadega tu be?

apne chhote bihari bhai ko aise bolega?

 

[Ayush]

Kyun kya ukhadega tu be?

apne chhote bihari bhai ko aisa bolega??

 

[Dillinger]

apne chhote bihari bhai ko aisa bolega??

Tu bole to tereko litti chokha khilake khush kardoon.

 

[Ayush]

Tu bole to tereko litti chokha khilake khush kardoon.

i am sure @Armstrong and @Hyperion would like to eat litti chokha too