Pakistanis with their inferiority-complex and misplaced infatuation with Western terms sometimes fascinate me.
Without googling--can anybody here tell me that precise reason why right and left rose in Western Europe? What's the FUNDAMENTAL difference between "conservatives" and "liberals" in Western world? Here's a trick question: Classical liberals of 18, 19th centuries in Europe had what kind of views?
Here's the thing my goodhearted but unfortunate fellows: The notion of "liberal" and "secular" vs "right-wing" and "conservative" does not apply to countries outside of Western sphere...ESPECIALLY Islamic world (which Pakistan is a part of).
These notions and grand concepts rose out of Europe because of particular European history, political struggles, and culture. Westerners use these symbols/terms to make sense of the outside world and that's okay. A people will use their indigenous lenses to look at the foreign lands and cultures.
However, when a peoples use foreign concept and tools to understand themselves and their own locale---then it becomes completely embarrassing and downright offensive to intelligent mind.
I grew up (like most kids here who went to high school and then college here in US as American citizens) learning about Europe's history, political basis, philosophical foundations and their application to our modern times. Take my word for it---you guys have NO idea about any of the above and you come across utter loony toons when discussing Pakistan as if it is a wealthy, post-religious society of Western Hemisphere.
PPP is significantly MORE 'conservative' than the actual conservatives in US (let alone Europe, which is far less conservative than here)---and you think PML-N is "center left" now given that PML-N is more conservative than PPP itself
As I said, these labels and titles do not apply to countries like Pakistan.
@Zibago @Kabira @war&peace
Islami Jhamorian never vote for mulla tolla, all parties have few mulla in their parties kuch ke munh pe aur kuch ke pait mein dhadhi. Capt Safdar Rana Sanaullah Ch Nisar still PMLN main characters to harvest zombies.
Lol, the precise reason why so called "Islamic parties" don't win in Pakistan is a very solid proof that Pakistan IS an Islamic state and has Islamic culture and heritage.
I know it's hard for you to comprehend. Here's a food for thought.
US claims to be the most free nation on planet Earth. We have several "freedom parties" here...they NEVER win ANYTHING.
Is it because US is not a free country and people never vote for "freedom"? Or is it because US is indeed a very free country and since the need has already been met (with all its short comings just like in Pakistan)--people don't see the necessity of so called "freedom parties"
Now take the same approach and apply to Pakistan and so called "Islamic" parties
The state itself is Islamic. Culture, identity, and heritage is very much Islamic (again with all its imperfections and shortcomings)---and hence "Islamic" parties are not considered to be worth voting for. Not because people don't like what they are offering...BUT because Pakistan and Pakistanis have ALREADY ESTABLISHED what these so called "Islamic" parties sell in their message
I know, your world probably just cam crashing down bc nobody had ever given u this perspective in ur little cute bubble of your own that you and your fellow wanna be liberal/seculars live in..
