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Mystery of OBL's Body

You can continue to defend them but this incidence of being liars is not the only one. There are many other times when they lie. ef WMD in Iraq etc
I am not defending anyone, I am as much interested in truth as anybody.
I agree they lied about Iraq, even people were highly skeptical about the intelligence they gathered, the chief weapon inspector resigned.

There is higher level of transparency in the way western democracies deal with things, their institutions will not allow wholesale lie for long, which is why they could not just plant a few nuclear war heads in iraq, (they should learn a thing or two from us south asians :) )

It would be interesting to know what his children and wives think.
 
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They don't even try to make their lies look real anymore. Once the sheep accepted the 911 story fed to them they will continue to digest anything.
 
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apparently you are also doing so, by discarding mr. white and going along with mr. black :woot:

not just because of that of course. there are many reasons. al queda - the doctor - the OBL family - your own establishment accepting it - to name a few.

but you just wanna believe the "white one" cause that suits you - ain't it?


the remaining part of your post has been discussed lot of time on this forum, use search button

search what? the conspiracy theories? sorry dude - we don't believe them in our part of the world.
 
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Americans themselves changed their own story about Osama several times.


The killing of Osama bin Laden: how the White House changed its story
Bin Laden not armed and did not use woman as human shield, US admits;
The killing of Osama bin Laden: how the White House changed its story | World news | The Guardian

did you read the article sir? it says "according to the latest account which could not be verified by the guardian"... but lets assume its true for the sake of your argument. what you think they are trying to do? you don't wanna believe the entire operation just because of this? just because he was armed or not?

okay- why that doctor is in the custody? why he was arrested in the first place? the OBL family? your own government? i know you guys can make some great theories but its not full proof. you should try hard so that people can actually believe your version.
 
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They don't even try to make their lies look real anymore. Once the sheep accepted the 911 story fed to them they will continue to digest anything.

9/11 was the model to be used thereafter. Anyone questioning the official propaganda is dismissed as an unpatriotic "terrist" sympathizer. It's amazing how the complicit media plays along while still claiming to be "independent".

I don't know of any high profile figure that was quietly disposed of and the government said, "just trust us".

This is like Jimmy Hoffa and the mob.
 
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Is this from the recent wikileaks? Please point sources to the wikileaks dump - we have had fake wikileaks now and then.
 
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What do you propose they do, built a monument and invite terrorists to his funeral?

The claim they disposed his body after hours of discovering it after a long 10+ year search is quite unreasonable and difficult to believe, saying the quickly examined it and dumped the body into the Arabian sea sounds like rubbish to me.

In stead, why didn't they freeze his body they could have preserved it. Oh but the US Government wanted to do a burial at sea in accordance with Islamic tradition, yeah right...

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9/11 was the model to be used thereafter. Anyone questioning the official propaganda is dismissed as an unpatriotic "terrist" sympathizer. It's amazing how the complicit media plays along while still claiming to be "independent".

I don't know of any high profile figure that was quietly disposed of and the government said, "just trust us".

This is like Jimmy Hoffa and the mob.

If you question the official version of the 9/11 story on the mainstream media you will be labeled a "conspiracy theorist", "crackpot", and other bs these naive yuppies throw around they are more comforted by the lies than the truth,
 
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after 15 hours of killing they throw him in sea its biggest lie of 2011 for me .
Is this from the recent wikileaks? Please point sources to the wikileaks dump - we have had fake wikileaks now and then.
a very logical. what I myself have said, US hasn't really killed OBL. there is no meaning of killing a person who may keep giving you valuable information. but yes, OBL is dead for rest of world as he would be kept alive under US's custody only. US will handle mindset of Osama, try to take as many info as he may help the US with, and after reaching a certain victory against WOT and when it will get confirmed that there is no more use of OBL, US would simply push him from a mountain :wave:

I even heard US helped Hitler to go to Argentina as why to kill a defeated ruler, who had lost the war completely? killing Saddam or Gaddafi had certain reasons, that is, even if US had captured Iraq, they were losing to Saddam's supporters on guerrilla war and hanging Saddam could discourage his supporters, it was believed. and the same problem US won't face with Gaddafi, it was wise to kill him on spot and close his chapter on spot :pop:

Just have a look on the 26/11 2008 of India, its master mind, Headley and others, who are under custody of US. There is a section of CIA who believes criminals may help you get that type of information which are aren’t possible in any other way. They generally keep a type of appreciation for those who may think to organize any big crime, terrorist spot, wars etc as they consider it something which they couldn’t think but that certain group of terrorists/ criminals could think and organized those crimes. And this type of people would be kept for valuable information, it is believed. :agree:

(Like Pakistan’s former president Mr Musharraf, who may help them get as many information which is very hard to spy from Pakistan also, isn’t it? And until Mr Musharraf is kept in Britain, CIA or Israeli intelligent may organize terror spots in India and say something is because of ongoing political conflicts between the two enemy countries. Was there any reason to kill 24 Pakistani troops on 26/11 2011 only while 26/11 2008 had hit India very hard, doesn’t it only mean to organize something in between India and Pakistan, by 26/11 2008 in India and 26/11 2011 in Pakistan both? Sometimes I guess, it was a good luck for both Indian and Pakistani people that Pakistani soldiers didn’t open fire on those NATO’s helicopters otherwise those helicopters might have killed and threw few bodies of Indian citizens working in Afghan to show there might be India behind such a brutal act against Pakistan to take revenge of 26/11 2008?:police:
Sometimes I was angry while thinking that I might have said something in 2008 by mistake which might have resulted in bomb blast in India but it was always very logical to me that if Im in Australia and things are handled from Britain, then how is it right to blame anyone from India or Pakistan/ or to even Indian or Pakistani living in West? Why any political person would take revenge of few angry statements of a hardly 30+ person, if any? I now believe, every bomb blast in India since IPL 2008 to 26/11 2008, by using name of 'Indian' Mujahiddin, was 'indirectly' organized by those who organized the same 26/11 2011 in Pakistan. People like Ms Musharraf are just 'toy'. Even in Samjhauta express case, few from US/UK might have ‘indirectly’ organized it through using few hindus to encourage Pakistan’s part to do similar things. until Western intelligent are active in India, whatever wrong happens in India would be blamed to US/ West, rest is rubbish. NATO as a whole is as brutal as their 26/11 2011 act in Pakistan, including 26/11 2008 of India, both would have been organised by the same hands 'indirectly', its also very logical :agree:)

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Asim, I do remember, I got very surprised how a new terrorist organization, who took the name ‘Indian’ Mujahedeen, was unknown till that date in early 2008 and scored this big number in their very first blast. But when Pres Bush said by himself that ISI was behind a blast on Indian embassy in Kabul after just few months in july 2008, I had to believe that friendship efforts with Pakistan came on decline. It then encouraged me to come to PDF and try to fix the things if it had moved in wrong direction, if i can, this way after over 1.5 years, after November 2006, I again backed to PDF after that Kabul incident in mid 2008. But 26/11 2011 incident finally banned me on PDF. and now Im backed again 3-4 months before with a hope that I would now be taken out completely, as there would be an end of the dramas continued for so long. But I could never digest the name ‘Indian’ Mujahedeen of that newly born terrorist organization and why even Pres Bush was interested in confirming that ISI was always somewhere behind every blast in India since early 2008 to 26/11 2008, including that in Kabul in Indian embassy during the same period? US’s/ Western establishments always tried to keep thinking of we all, well within South Asia. And I always replied them, “Yes its obvious that few rouge elements of ISI might be behind everywhere, as they know India well, true, but all are linked to US/ UK, its also written on the wall.” There was always enough tensions between India and Pakistan, but it was always ‘cashed’ by Western establishments, there was no other meaning why I was kept for so long to discuss all those incidents which were organized by ‘Indian’ Mujahedeen. Enough good environments had been made between India and Pakistan in between early 2007 to mid 2008.......

'Unknown' Islamic group threatens more blasts in tourist India
(AFP) – May 14, 2008
JAIPUR, India (AFP) — A previously-unknown Islamic group claimed responsibility for a string of bombings that killed 63 people and warned of more attacks on Indian tourist targets, officials said Thursday
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hIA4Jrf22A_LF8AAsPgwjxgZviVw

Huge blast at Indian Embassy in Kabul kills 41
Monday, July 7, 2008
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/07/world/asia/07iht-afghan.4.14305634.html

I was worried that there must not be anything due to me and I would try to fix, if I could do something from my side. But as usual, The Australian newspaper was used to give me information as below in August 2008 to make me think about ISI, with giving a sense that ISI had worked under Mr Musharraf also. this is a shame that even US’s that time president, Mr Bush, was directly involved in terrorist activities in India, backed by CIA :rofl:

George Bush adds fuel to fire over ISI spy agency
August 01, 2008 12:00AM
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...-over-spy-agency/story-e6frg6t6-1111117073115
The reason why I gave an example few days before, that, “When Russia saw that it had got heavy economic losses in between 1990 to 1999, they preferred to transfer even the whole production line of their best aircraft Su27 to China. Even if Russia and China have fought war in past, Russia never tried to engage China in regional politics. Similarly, more India faces problems on International level, more India would encourage Russia to sell even SU35bm/ S400 to China. As, consequences are our best friends who always remind us to make difference between right and wrong/ good and bad. And those who can organized evil things to get benefits out of it mustn’t be successful otherwise it will become a ‘good example’ to keep doing the similar things in future to fulfill different similar political interests. But if they will face ‘losses’ on international platform for their evil deeds, they will then be more willing to learn from their mistakes and won’t try the similar things in future.” I mean, if I would rule India, then more India fall due to the politics on international platform backed by US/ West, more I would try to help China, no matter what will be the consequences on the regional level. I will never try to engage the nations within the limits they lived in till now. just because I face problems, it mustn’t mean that I won’t let my neighbors grow also and this way I would let the main handlers successful on the international platform. Equal opportunity must be created to grow for the whole world and any effort to discourage ‘equality’ in world would be resisted with best efforts. I find still Mr Burns comes to India to remind his efforts during the time of Ms Rice to help India get recognized nuclear power through '123 Agrrement' and US’s efforts to keep China quiet during NSG voting, but India isn’t helping US either against China or against Iran. But there is no sign that US wants to make the world nuclear weapon free and there is no sign that they are willing to accept responsibility of creating so many political problems for India for so long, since ‘123 Agreement’. Still there is meat on my body so I would be kept somehow to discuss different political things, to help US/ UK organize different crimes in world giving reference of the ‘Political Problems’, but there is no sign that US/ West is willing to stop all these things, still Mr Burns is sent to India while I just want to run away somewhere right now? Pres Bush always reminds that for China, their enemy number one is US and number two is India, but there is no shame by Mr Bush to accept that main enemies of India are those who organized so many things for so long since that '123 Agreement'. what clear message I passed to that time FS of US, Ms C Rice, many times, “the society of US/ West, where the criterion of getting success in life isn’t education, only by committing crimes may help their people get success in these societies. those who can’t study, are very likely to commit crimes for a luxury life, obviously, and their governments have also understood this basic fact, the reason why so many political crimes are being organized by them inside other countries.:pop: until highly qualified people are coming to US, we have techs and the time they dont come, we have only under high school pass people in US/ UK/ Australia/ Canada, and the result is, neither they want to let a professional like me to grow in my personal life, nor they want me to run away also, over 5 to 6 years have passed like this. they just want people like me to either work for them or remove. only crimes may help these countries get progress, as, how long Ms Bill Gates type people may remain the richest people if even Hotmail was developed by an Indian professional, Sabir Bhatia? the techs US is using wasn't developed by Americans, but by the migrants, mainly Indians" :meeting:
 
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You can continue to defend them but this incidence of being liars is not the only one. There are many other times when they lie. ef WMD in Iraq etc
..whatever..that scum bag is ******* in hell..that is enuf for me...and dont u talk abt lies and truth...for gods sake..:hitwall:
 
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Right OBL is alive. After all the infidels should make him wait till eternity for those 72 virgins. ;)
 
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