Myanmar president says Rohingyas not welcome

[INDIC]

You wish...

You are underestimating the importance of Myanmar for China. Have a look.

 

[iajj]

You are underestimating the importance of Myanmar for China. Have a look.

BD can be made more important to china if the two just behead india at its chichen neck. then trade and commerce will prosper between the two sides, and most importantly, land border with china would have provided extremely sound and extremely valuable security to BD.

 

[INDIC]

BD can be made more important to china if the two just behead india at its chichen neck. then trade and commerce will prosper between the two sides, and most importantly, land border with china would have provided extremely sound and extremely valuable security to BD.

If you dream that, then be ready to see what our nukes will do.

 

[gamma]

BD can be made more important to china if the two just behead india at its chichen neck. then trade and commerce will prosper between the two sides, and most importantly, land border with china would have provided extremely sound and extremely valuable security to BD.

There wouldn't be any Chicken Neck if there's no BD. either both Chicken neck and BD can exist or both disappear.(as in Political Geography)

 

[kalu_miah]

There wouldn't be any Chicken Neck if there's no BD. either both Chicken neck and BD can exist or both disappear.(as in Political Geography)

You have no excuse to intrude on or take territory of Bangladesh that is not attacking you in any way, so use your logic if you have any and keep your trouble with China outside of borders. Your North East states is problem of India, China and Burma, we are just silent spectator in this new great game.

 

[kalu_miah]

BD can be made more important to china if the two just behead india at its chichen neck. then trade and commerce will prosper between the two sides, and most importantly, land border with china would have provided extremely sound and extremely valuable security to BD.

Please note the method how India broke Pakistan. The key is to recruit young student leaders who want independence in North East states and create a wide grass roots political base of support, once 40 million population are determined about their self determination, there is nothing any army can do to stop them. Indian intelligence started in 1950's in East Pakistan and by 1971 Bangladesh was created. If China can engineer a popular support base for independence of North East states, then whole world will be behind North East states - US, EU, Japan, Korea, ASEAN, Burma, you name it. No one supports imperialism and oppression and every one supports the oppressed people in their fight for self determination.

This project is a geopolitical win win for North East population, neighbors and the whole world, the lone exception are the oppressors, Brahman Hindutva supremacists in "mainland" India who will lose their hold on a landmass that they got as a gift from the British when they left India.

This project already got started by ISI and Chinese intelligence in 1950's, but India played a clever game using our in-house traitors Mujib led Awami League who allied with India and broke Pakistan, many say precisely to stop this project. Read the life story of these two leaders from North East states:
Angami Zapu Phizo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Pu Laldenga - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If Hasina loses election in Dec. 2013 and China friendly BNP (Khaleda Zia) come back to power, then the situation will become ripe for restarting this project in earnest. Even if Hasina is still in power, they cannot stop China as the main logistics supply can and will be through Burmese borders.

So China needs to convince Burma that this time around China is serious, really means business and will see this project through finish line to recover South Tibet, and that it will be good for Burmese to have one less nuclear power in their border. Instead Burma will have a fellow ethnic kin South East Asian friendly nation on its border, very much dependent on it for many things and eventually may become a fellow member nation of ASEAN.

In summary North East states can become independent, but it will be difficult for China to absorb this whole region, unless the population of course want that by popular vote/referendum, at a later stage.

 

[Maira La]

BD can be made more important to china if the two just behead india at its chichen neck. then trade and commerce will prosper between the two sides, and most importantly, land border with china would have provided extremely sound and extremely valuable security to BD.

All we need is a secure corridor to China. I can see it (the infra development and what not affecting surrounding regions.. .. ..) being very commercially profitable to India as well. India helped us in '71.. we can at least do them this much favor.

 

[gamma]

You have no excuse to intrude on or take territory of Bangladesh that is not attacking you in any way, so use your logic if you have any and keep your trouble with China outside of borders. Your North East states is problem of India, China and Burma, we are just silent spectator in this new great game.

China/Burma/Bangladesh great game? stake holders list is too long to type. Too complicated to explain.

All we need is a secure corridor to China. I can see it (the infra development and what not) being very commercially profitable to India as well. India helped us in '71.. we can at least do them this much favor.

you already have a transit route.

 

[Maira La]

China/Burma/Bangladesh great game? stake holders list is too long to type. Too complicated to explain.



you already have a transit route.

transit route...to China? Really?!

 

[gamma]

transit route...to China? Really?!

yes, you do. how do you get Chinese goods now?

 

[INDIC]

transit route...to China? Really?!

You mean nathula pass.

 

[boltu]

I got nothing to say,Bangladesh should just open the border for Rohingyas.

 

[jaunty]

we militarily and diplomatically support pakistan and build up infrastructure there and maintain a military posture in xinjiang vis-a-vis the indian oppressors;

Usual attempt at point scoring, typical pdf Chinese and again stop oppressing the Uyghur Muslims.

china is not a premier naval power and isn't a global power (that title we humbly endow upon the mighty india). so we take care of business closer to home: we selectively arm ethnic minorities in burma whose homeland is on chinese border. as one of the five powers with a seat on UNSC, we spoke against south africa and israel for decades, but the geographic distance between china and west asia and africa means our military support has always been limited by our inability to confront anglo-american naval power, but that doesn't stop us from pointing out the fact that anglo-american military power is what propped up evil regimes everywhere on this planet

Trying to play dumb are we?

First of all stop giving me the eastern/western border crap, Myanmar is your immediate neighbor and it's not a huge country.

Secondly am I saying you get involve militarily in Burma? No. But what's stopping you from trying to pass a resolution at UNSC to deploy UN peacekeepers in Burma if you care so much about the Rohingya Muslims? Has any of the Chinese leaders even bothered to read out a statement about the so called genocide yet? Again a big No. The truth is you won't do anything like that against your buddy junta.

I checked sinodefence to see the views of the common Chinese away from pdf, guess what the term "Rohingya" has no match on the forum. Ha ha, talk about caring. You talk the talk but when it comes to walking the walk, you have proven yourself to be just another hypocrite shredding crocodile tears.

BTW why is Ummah silent about this? Where is OIC? Oh yeah blame the West.

 

[alaungphaya]

BD can be made more important to china if the two just behead india at its chichen neck. then trade and commerce will prosper between the two sides, and most importantly, land border with china would have provided extremely sound and extremely valuable security to BD.

On the map, China and India share a long border. In reality, there is the matter of the Himalayas to contend with. Not to mention that those border lands are really Tibet and not really connected to the population centers of South China. Linking China with BD is impossible unless you go through us and we're not going to do anything which we perceive is against our interests.

Oh yeah, your proselytising about US sponsored Burmese terror on Muslims was very amusing. Beijing is the reason the fcking junta have been in power for the last 25 years. Sanctions may have worked if we didn't have the good old tayoke pauk-phaw propping up the generals. China still has more influence over Myanmar than any other country. In contrast, the US just sent its first ambassador in 22 years last week.

Not to mention, ofcourse, your treatment of the Uyghurs or the Tibetans for that matter. Chinese exceptionalism always seems to win the day.

 

[iajj]

Usual attempt at point scoring, typical pdf Chinese and again stop oppressing the Uyghur Muslims.



Trying to play dumb are we?

First of all stop giving me the eastern/western border crap, Myanmar is your immediate neighbor and it's not a huge country.

Secondly am I saying you get involve militarily in Burma? No. But what's stopping you from trying to pass a resolution at UNSC to deploy UN peacekeepers in Burma if you care so much about the Rohingya Muslims? Has any of the Chinese leaders even bothered to read out a statement about the so called genocide yet? Again a big No. The truth is you won't do anything like that against your buddy junta.

I checked sinodefence to see the views of the common Chinese away from pdf, guess what the term "Rohingya" has no match on the forum. Ha ha, talk about caring. You talk the talk but when it comes to walking the walk, you have proven yourself to be just another hypocrite shredding crocodile tears.

BTW why is Ummah silent about this? Where is OIC? Oh yeah blame the West.

historically china was heavily interventionist, reserving to itself the right to arbitrate dispute between subject peoples and to send armed forces to impose its verdict. modern china clothed itself as a nation-state and withdrew from that confucian interventionism drastically, but eventually chinese power will define chinese sphere of interest and that interventionism may well return. for the moment, geographic convenience and fiscal restraint confine us only to kashmir and northern burma (and silly indians: don't speak of burma as a small country: put it on a map next to china and it may look small, but it is about 800 or 900 thousand sq km, and if we match it against india's small frame, which is probably no more than three, four times in size, burma isn't small at all). but once chinese power can be projected further, particularly after we establish land border with bangladesh, then chinese will happily submit their benevolent confusian interventionism to the strictest moral scrunity of the world community.

Oh yeah, your proselytising about US sponsored Burmese terror on Muslims was very amusing. Beijing is the reason the fcking junta have been in power for the last 25 years. Sanctions may have worked if we didn't have the good old tayoke pauk-phaw propping up the generals. China still has more influence over Myanmar than any other country. In contrast, the US just sent its first ambassador in 22 years last week.

given aung san tofu chicken's callous tolerance of your pogrom against muslims, china clearly made a right choice in propping up the junta a quarter century ago: at the time, it was the only way to stop a demagogue from seizing power in a country that was (and is) yet to learn to live at peace with its own ethnic mix. americans now ruined all this by promisinig economic investment in the country in exchange for bringing tofu chicken back into the political scene to prosecute the minorities, out of typical anglo-american selfishness and cynicism
like i said, you are now in american tutelage, so genocide is your right and reward of this american friendship. go ahead, slaughter your own kind; china will not stand in your way now that you have shielded yourself with american diplomatic armor.