My Faith is on Trail once again .. why ?

[acid rain]

Simple, how many knew about the recent attacks by the Bodo terrorists in India? If the criminals were forced by "Islamist" ideologies the World would have known about it. How many know about the Muslims being killed by CAR Christian rebels and are being killed in other parts of the world? And how many classify Israel and Jews terrorist for killing Palestinians.

European and American media only look at opportunities to bash Muslims and brand all as terrorists. A white Christian man walks into a school and shoots dead a dozen kids or walks into a temple and kills a few people and later his appreciation of pro-Nazi organizations or extremist Christian values are found but yet he is branded as a lone wolf.

If a Muslim commits a crime, they will blame Islam and if a Christian commits a crime, they will blame him.

Bodo and car christians are localised and aren't an international phenomena, while Islamists and their agenda are.. Islamic terrorism affects every country and every religion.

There's no conflict between christians jews animist hindus Buddhists internally - while all religion has has an issue with islam...why is that? Is there a problem with every religion while islam is perfect or its the other way around?

 

[Dubious]

That was a question not a assertion.

A relevant question isn't some learned mullahs in Pakistan glorify taliban and even criticize Z-E-A and wasn't PAKISTAN was the one of three country which had recognized the Taliban?

3)By basic fundamentals ----- i mean wasn't Afghanistan during Taliban regime model Islamic country?

killing, raping, oppressing women is no basic principle!

 

[Ranndhawa]

killing, raping, oppressing women is no basic principle!

so for you Taliban rule was just?

 

[acid rain]

Muslims can respect people of the book. But we won't respect a pagan cult ever.

Even Muslim rulers humiliated you Hindus alot by mocking your beliefs. This is will always contnue to happen.

Yes they did, and they still do..What do you think will they get back...Other than hate for hate?

 

[Ranndhawa]

killing, raping, oppressing women is no basic principle!

When did i mention that?

 

[Dubious]

Muslims can respect people of the book. But we won't respect a pagan cult ever.

Even Muslim rulers humiliated you Hindus alot by mocking your beliefs. This is will always contnue to happen.

WTH?

Nothing wrong with respecting....

[Quran 60:9] Allah only forbids you from those who fight you because of religion and expel you from your homes and aid in your expulsion - [forbids] that you make allies of them. And whoever makes allies of them, then it is those who are the wrongdoers.


This means :

Allah forbids you not from respecting those who have not fought against you on account of your religion, and who have not driven you forth from your homes

When did i mention that?

Those in Afghanistan were doing it and you said they were following the basics ....

How old are you?

 

[Dem!god]

WTH?

Nothing wrong with respecting....

[Quran 60:9] Allah only forbids you from those who fight you because of religion and expel you from your homes and aid in your expulsion - [forbids] that you make allies of them. And whoever makes allies of them, then it is those who are the wrongdoers.


This means :

Allah forbids you not from respecting those who have not fought against you on account of your religion, and who have not driven you forth from your homes


Those in Afghanistan were doing it and you said they were following the basics ....

How old are you?

i very much doubt, if he is a Muslim...
i think he is from bajrang dal or something, got his training and trying to create controversies...

 

[Sliver]

- because you call other muslims as "brothers" making other people unequal
- because you treat other religions an faiths as "lesser" as shown by the number of minorities living in the islamic countries
- because the crime is committed in the name of the religion
- because you claim equal rights to practice religion in other countries but fail to demand rights for minorities to practice their own religion in your countries
- because you use the "right to expression" in other countries to express yourself but deny that to other faiths in your countries
- because you claim that every terrorist action is a "response" to some form of provocation but fail to understand that the "response" was also due to some form of provocation from the islamic nut jobs
- because,you claim that the terrorist is the victim here - some poor hapless soul who couldnt stop his anger about his faith being abused- much like the rapist being shown as the victim for not being able to control his senses.
- because after the attack on charlie hebdo, you chose to show the "double standards" as a condoning factor
- because after boko haram, this sort of outrage did not come up from you guys
- because after the destruction of the bamiyan budha, none of you guys took up jihad against those pigs

 

[Dubious]

1)Muslim don't criticize A.Z or for that matter Taliban bcz they are just following the basic fundamentals of islam

2)Then what is fault of Taliban and isis they are just following their scriptures but with more vigour then ordinary Muslim.


3)plz don't mention countries like libiya and leaders like Nasir bcz he wasn't even secular let alone commie.

so for you Taliban rule was just?

When did i mention that?

so for you Taliban rule was just?

How did you conclude that when you are the one stating that is your understanding of basic principle!

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[Sliver]

Muslims can respect people of the book. But we won't respect a pagan cult ever.

Even Muslim rulers humiliated you Hindus alot by mocking your beliefs. This is will always contnue to happen.

I care less of any religion. But if you don respect other faiths, dont expect them to respect you. and people like you create distubances between faiths because of your "holier than thou" attitude.
if you claim your "faith" is superior than a "pagan cult", then the "pagan cult" has every right to reciprocate.

 

[Pakistani E]

That was a question not a assertion.

A relevant question isn't some learned mullahs in Pakistan glorify taliban and even criticize Z-E-A and wasn't PAKISTAN was the one of three country which had recognized the Taliban?

3)By basic fundamentals ----- i mean wasn't Afghanistan during Taliban regime model Islamic country?

Again, are you an Ahmadi?

 

[Pakistani E]

1)I am not saying that but govt who supported those regime,why are so shy in accepting that they had the support of learned Muslim scholars and even today some educated Muslim supports them


2)What's difference does it make?You can have me ban if u want to but again i am saying i have not said against relegion but you never criticize members cursing others sects and religions even on this thread.

yes

Then why are you stating that the Taliban are only following the fundamentals of Islam which "normal" muslims are too lazy to follow?

 

[SarthakGanguly]

If i am good ,its because what my Religion taught me, and if i have anything bad its because of my own faults

There. That is one problem.

 

[Dubious]

- because you call other muslims as "brothers" making other people unequal

Brothers in faith which crosses boarders...
While you people even question blacks (based on colour)
Muslims (based on faith)
Romanian (based on race)

No matter where these people are/ were born they are questioned ....based on where they were born based on which colour and race...how is that not alienating based on something not in one's power?

faith is a choice...

- because you treat other religions an faiths as "lesser" as shown by the number of minorities living in the islamic countries

Those are the laws of those countries...How a Latino and a black is treated "differently" or a Romanian for Europe...Just coz your country's laws do it doesnt mean every American is treating every Latino nor is every European treating every Romanian like that!

In Islam A Sultanate is a wrong form of system...Yet we have Muslim Sultanates! Speaks heaps of the example you are tying to use!

- because the crime is committed in the name of the religion

What about Israel? I dont justify this...Anyone can pick up anything and commit a crime...do we Muslims have a copyright bridging issue? Nope...Can we stop someone from saying ALLAH HU AKBAR? nope...

- because you claim equal rights to practice religion in other countries but fail to demand rights for minorities to practice their own religion in your countries

Our countries dont preach secularist nor democracy! They are what they show themselves to be...Since they dont preach those 2 they cant be prosecuted by laws we dont have...What's West's excuse for comparing themselves to such countries while uplifting secular and democratic notions?

- because you use the "right to expression" in other countries to express yourself but deny that to other faiths in your countries

The right can only be used in the country that allows it!

- because you claim that every terrorist action is a "response" to some form of provocation but fail to understand that the "response" was also due to some form of provocation from the islamic nut jobs

What nut jobs were threatening the colonial rule? What about the WW2 what nut jobs created that? What about the cold war who was providing the weapons and backing it? Gulf war? Vietnam war? Korean War? Africa? The KKK? who actually provoked all those? Iraq ? Afghanistan? Pakistan? Drones in remote villages of Jordan?

- because,you claim that the terrorist is the victim here - some poor hapless soul who couldnt stop his anger about his faith being abused- much like the rapist being shown as the victim for not being able to control his senses.

Actually more like every white who commits a crime being considered psychologically unstable!

- because after the attack on charlie hebdo, you chose to show the "double standards" as a condoning factor

Do you not want to know what happened so future attacks can be avoided by not attacking more countries and creating an easy pool of recruits for them? If you cant think far then I suggest you will be shocked everytime history repeats itself!

- because after boko haram, this sort of outrage did not come up from you guys

It did...if your media didnt cover it...that is your media's fault not that we didnt...But mind you we are also fighting a war that America left behind due to their eagerness to crush USSR! A war we are paid to fight to get our soldiers killed coz America couldnt sweep the mess up after they left after the cold war! Your politicians realize, they dont say it doesnt mean they arent fixing it!

But if you cant analyze and keep being their sheep then you will never learn...Terrorist never learned a drop about Islam they are only fueled by anger...

- because after the destruction of the bamiyan budha, none of you guys took up jihad against those pigs

And what have we been doing on our side of the border? Respecting every decision by America? Fighting our own war by a bunch of American created baboons armed by America once upon a time ...



One needs to ask how many exactly how many damages did you guys do which the world is paying a hefty price for?! Have you asked yourself that? Have you? Or do you think you are god and never make mistakes?

The reasons i am saying that Taliban was following basic fundamentals of Islam recognized by pakistani govt :---

1)Strict sharia law

2)suppression of minority(zajiya,breaking of bamiyan Buddha)

so are these not come under basic principles?
3

Hence you are not Ahmedi @Pakistani Exile report him!

 

[Pakistani E]

The reasons i am saying that Taliban was following basic fundamentals of Islam recognized by pakistani govt :---

1)Strict sharia law

2)suppression of minority(zajiya,breaking of bamiyan Buddha)

so are these not come under basic principles?
3

Why are you so shy to tell your original religion? Are you that ashamed?