My Analysis : This is the new generation of S-129 !

[The Last of us]

None of your policies will ever come close to creating an SLV with the succes rate the Long March family has. It only failed onces. And accordig to some sources Iranian SLV have a poor succes record.

Who the heck are you to claim what Iran will or will not achieve? You need keep these dumb comments to yourself.

 

[BordoEnes]

Who the heck are you to claim what Iran will or will not achieve? You need keep these dumb comments to yourself.

Simple. You dont have the neccesary institutes, funding, experience and technology to achieve it. The Long March family has an extremely good succes record, you think Iran can make something equal to that at the present? Answer me honestly.

 

[The Last of us]

Simple. You dont have the neccesary institutes, funding, experience and technology to achieve it. The Long March family has an extremely good succes record, you think Iran can make something equal to that at the present? Answer me honestly.

If we were talking about turkey, then I would have agreed about not having the technology. But we are not turkey who is backward in missile technology. You don't jack about the work being done in Iranian institutions, so don't make retarded comments about what Iran and can't do in the future. Honestly, your comment get dumber by the hour. The only issue that could be granted is the funding issue. But IRGC is not really effected by this and their Ghaem SLV is very close to being showcased. You turks like putting your backwardness in certain areas on other people.

 

[BordoEnes]

If we were talking about turkey, then I would have agreed about not having the technology. But we are not turkey who is backward in missile technology. You don't jack about the work being done in Iranian institutions, so don't make retarded comments about what Iran and can't do in the future. Honestly, your comment get dumber by the hour. The only issue that could be granted is the funding issue. But IRGC is not really effected by this and their Ghaem SLV is very close to being showcased. You turks like putting your backwardness in certain areas on other people.

Here let me add your conclusion for you.

Conlusion: Iran does NOT have the neccesary factors to develop something similair to the Long March family.

You can talk down on Turkey as much as you want but that wont make Iran look higher by any means. And converting some Ballistic missiles to space rockets isnt much of an achievement as it cant be considered a proper SLV. Not to mention the poor succes rates that have been reported.

 

[SOHEIL]

None of your policies will ever come close to creating an SLV with the succes rate the Long March family has. It only failed once out of the nearly 100 launches and according to some sources Iranian SLV have a poor succes record. So i doubt Iran would risk losing sattelites.

Everything has a beginning !

 

[BordoEnes]

Everything has a beginning !

I agree. And honestly i hope Iran does eventually achieve something similair to the Long March. But i am just speaking for the present and near future.

 

[SOHEIL]

Who the heck are you to claim what Iran will or will not achieve? You need keep these dumb comments to yourself.

We have nothing to prove right now !

The only way to prove is the pass of time ... not attacks !

Simple. You dont have the neccesary institutes, funding, experience and technology to achieve it. The Long March family has an extremely good succes record, you think Iran can make something equal to that at the present? Answer me honestly.

Honestly we have a proper solid fuel SLV under development comparable with VEGA !!!

but i have nothing to prove right now ...

If we were talking about turkey, then I would have agreed about not having the technology. But we are not turkey who is backward in missile technology. You don't jack about the work being done in Iranian institutions, so don't make retarded comments about what Iran and can't do in the future. Honestly, your comment get dumber by the hour. The only issue that could be granted is the funding issue. But IRGC is not really effected by this and their Ghaem SLV is very close to being showcased. You turks like putting your backwardness in certain areas on other people.

We will prove our capability ... no need to act like this !

 

[The Last of us]

Here let me add your conclusion for you.

Conlusion: Iran does NOT have the neccesary factors to develop something similair to the Long March family.

You can talk down on Turkey as much as you want but that wont make Iran look higher by any means. And converting some Ballistic missiles to space rockets isnt much of an achievement as it cant be considered a proper SLV. Not to mention the poor succes rates that have been reported.

Iran has launched 4 satellites using that SLV already and only 1 launch has failed from what I know. Other so called failures have no evidence behind them and who knows what they're about. It could anything from engine testing, to testing newer technologies for SLV's.
Iran has already all the technology it needs for more advance and larger SLV. Matter of fact, a much larger SLV called Ghaem is ready but was not tested due to the negotiations.

You seem to worship the longmarch because they've launched your satellites. The reality is this however, you know little about Iranian capability Just sit back, and wait for the newer SLV's to be showcased and in the meantime refrain from making baseless statements.

 

[SOHEIL]

Here let me add your conclusion for you.

Conlusion: Iran does NOT have the neccesary factors to develop something similair to the Long March family.

You can talk down on Turkey as much as you want but that wont make Iran look higher by any means. And converting some Ballistic missiles to space rockets isnt much of an achievement as it cant be considered a proper SLV. Not to mention the poor succes rates that have been reported.

The poor success rate goes to lack of experience !

Safir SLV based on Shahab-3 BMs ... the engine which originally developed by NK has some stability problems !

We are going to retire them soon ...

For the record >>> the mentioned solid fuel SLV has 3.5m diameter ... & for steering using TVC technology ... unlike indian PSLV !

People with the proper knowledge know that such system is the edge !

edge of technology ...

Man your comments are so dumb that honestly, and I mean honestly I face-palmed.
Converting a two stage ballistic missile and using it to launch a satellite is something your country is decades away from. You don't have the slightest bit of clue on what you're talking about. Iran has launched 4 satellites using that SLV already and only 1 launch has failed from what I know. Other so called failures have no evidence behind them and who knows what they're about. It could anything from engine testing, to testing newer technologies for SLV's.
you're talking about things and using facts pulled out of your behind. Iran has already all the technology it has for more advance and larger SLV. Matter of fact, a much larger SLV called Ghaem is ready but was not tested due to the negotiations.

You seem to worship the longmarch because they've launched your satellites. The reality is this however, you know jack about what you're talking about and know much less about Iranian capability. As I said, you turks like to put your backwardness on other people. Just sit back, and wait for the newer SLV's to be showcased and in the meantime refrain from making baseless statements.

Calm down ... this is not the right way !

 

[The Last of us]

We have nothing to prove right now !

The only way to prove is the pass of time ... not attacks !



Honestly we have a proper solid fuel SLV under development comparable with VEGA !!!

but i have nothing to prove right now ...



We will prove our capability ... no need to act like this !

Bro, this clueless kid is in our section making backwards statements, we should at least try to educate him although he seems oblivious to common sense.

 

[SOHEIL]

Bro, this clueless kid is in our section making backwards statements, we should at least try to educate him although he seems oblivious to common sense.

We have nothing to show him right now ... he has the right to disagree !

You can't fire with an empty ammo ...

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[haman10]

New engine ? ? ? ? ?

 

[SOHEIL]

New engine ? ? ? ? ?

 

[BordoEnes]

Iran has launched 4 satellites using that SLV already and only 1 launch has failed from what I know. Other so called failures have no evidence behind them and who knows what they're about. It could anything from engine testing, to testing newer technologies for SLV's.
Iran has already all the technology it needs for more advance and larger SLV. Matter of fact, a much larger SLV called Ghaem is ready but was not tested due to the negotiations.

You seem to worship the longmarch because they've launched your satellites. The reality is this however, you know little about Iranian capability Just sit back, and wait for the newer SLV's to be showcased and in the meantime refrain from making baseless statements.

I think you need to take a chill pill. I am not attacking anyone with "baseless claims". AFAIK The Iranian Space Agency promised in 2010 a total of 10 launches but completed only two. A number of launches failed, one resulting in a explosion that damaged a launch pad at the Imam Khomeini facility in Semnan. Its meaningless to invest money in a space program that keeps failing, thus opting for Chinese or Russian SLV's will be a priority for the Iranian goverment if it doesnt want to lose anymore precious payload then it already did. I only used the Long March as an example. Tell me why would they build sattelites to be launched from Iranian SLV that has a mere 20% succes rate just to be wasted?

As i said you have nothing. Litteraly nothing on your hands that can be considered a SLV. The Simorgh showed extreme promise as it was based on an existing N.Korean Unha SLV, which from my perspective should have been done way before as a starter. But even that was cancelled. I am not familair with the "Ghaem SLV" so i cant say much regarding that, hopefully its a succes.

I was talking about the present and near future so dont get things twisted. Perhaps some great achievement will come from the Iranian space agency in the future.

The poor success rate goes to lack of experience !

Safir SLV based on Shahab-3 BMs ... the engine which originally developed by NK has some stability problems !

We are going to retire them soon ...

For the record >>> the mentioned solid fuel SLV has 3.5m diameter ... & for steering using TVC technology ... unlike indian PSLV !

People with the proper knowledge know that such system is the edge !

edge of technology ...



Calm down ... this is not the right way !

I know bro and i am not saying anything regarding that. Sure launches fail and those are obstacle that you have to overcome with time, money and endurance. But then it would makes sense for the Iranian goverment to insted use Chinese or Russian SLV's until Iranian space agency can develop a SLV with a good succes rate and big enough payload. You would be gambling precious and priced sattelites away.That was my point. You said that Iranian policy is to go domestic, but right now thats not possible. You agree?

 

[The Last of us]

I think you need to take a chill pill. I am not attacking anyone with "baseless claims". AFAIK The Iranian Space Agency promised in 2010 a total of 10 launches but completed only two. A number of launches failed, one resulting in a explosion that damaged a launch pad at the Imam Khomeini facility in Semnan. Its meaningless to invest money in a space program that keeps failing, thus opting for Chinese or Russian SLV's will be a priority for the Iranian goverment if it doesnt want to lose anymore precious payload then it already did. I only used the Long March as an example. Tell me why would they build sattelites to be launched from Iranian SLV that has a mere 20% succes rate just to be wasted?

As i said you have nothing. Litteraly nothing on your hands that can be considered a SLV. The Simorgh showed extreme promise as it was based on an existing N.Korean Unha SLV, which from my perspective should have been done way before as a starter. But even that was cancelled. I am not familair with the "Ghaem SLV" so i cant say much regarding that, hopefully its a succes.

I was talking about the present and near future so dont get things twisted. Perhaps some great achievement will come from the Iranian space agency in the future.

Yes, you are making baseless comments. You're pulling number like 20% success rate out of your behind.
The lack of launches are to do with politics and monetary reasons rather than technical reasons. Safir SLV has already proven to be able to place satellites into orbit in most of its known launches vehicle and the one failure that we think we know of is not anything unusual. The failure was most definitely to do with human error rather than issue with the reality of the launch vehicle.

If Iran was pouring money into the space program, then it would have been vastly more advanced by now. The space program got barely any money to begin with and now, it is getting even less.

I know you're not familiar with Ghaem, you're not familiar with most of things you are spouting out here. I told you to stop commenting and just sit and wait. Your baseless statement are doing nothing but wasting space. You don't even know anything about Iranian SLV programs like Ghaem etc and you're trying to tell us what Iran can and can't do in the near future?