Cloakedvessel
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Why are you even arguing with xenophobes?
Very cheap. Go play with the little kids, if you can't formulate a proper argument or post.
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Why are you even arguing with xenophobes?
Very cheap. Go play with the little kids, if you can't formulate a proper argument or post.
Yes, it is off-topic because you are making an explicit comparison of rights in European and Islamic countries.
That is not the issue here; most of us acknowledge that Muslim countries, like many developing countries, have a ways to go in the human rights department.
The question is whether European Muslims have some of their rights abrogated due to the current climate of hysteria. Are they equal citizens? The debate is to compare the rights of European Muslims with European non-Muslims, not Pakistani Christians.
I remember the last time we had a debate you logged off and left the thread to the ruin of spider webs.
It's pointless to argue with xenophobic individuals.
Yeah, it's very easy to call names if you can't come up with something solid or refer to some imaginary 'victory'.
It's a silly question, which can never be deduced from my previous posts. Nowhere did I state that somebody should be punished for crimes in a far away place. I'm all for fair treatment regardless of the religion, so your previous cheap shot of calling me a bigot was also beside the point.
I criticized the report for its lack of hard data. A report in which testimonies, for example, of an European citizen (with head scarf) who got rejected for a job and therefore felt discriminated, while the dress code clearly stated no tattoo, no weird hair dresses no religious symbols, such a report cannot be taken very serious and should be put in its perspective, even if a fraction of the paper was true.
Same reason why a new born baby also has to go through a secrurity check in an airport. Laws are not meant to be flawless. How silly of you THINK that .... In the case of wearing it to school , it may have to do it with no religious symbols are allowed period. In the US you can't wear a Jesus T-shirt to school. School is void of all religious symbols
Yes it is about islamic. Countries. You can't expect go be the demander of rights based on Islam and yet expect us to not ask ... What happens if we come in your back yard...who died and made you guys the king Bhai?
You as a THINK TANK can't understand that the topic is about rights afforded to MUSLIMS and their demands for such rights. And as such rights given by them to others in their Islamic countries is very much on topic? this does not have to do with rights afforded to race, it is religion based. As such it would be stupid to not look at it in it's entirety .
You are a bigot because you don't view these people as fellow German or Dutch citizens. You justify their mistreatment by comparing it to something far away. What is the relevance of that comparison to a German Muslim born and bred in Germany?
Would you say that black Germans should be forced to live in mud huts because that's the norm in equatorial Africa?
The report also talks about specific laws about headscarves, etc. which directly target religion.
Sigh. Your ignorance of the French laws is astounding. It has been debated here before and I don't want to waste any more time educating you. I suggest you dig up one of the old threads to see why this French law discriminates against certain religions while favoring others.
You make it about Islamic countries because you can't debate the actual topic.
See, this is where your ingrained prejudice comes in. The person in question is a German Muslim or a Dutch Muslim. There is no "their Islamic countries".
By your logic, Western slavery should be OK compared what happens in "their African countries".
Left Wingers in Western countries get their lips wet just thinking about political correctness and trying to "protect" muslims or other minority groups.
It's a massive love fest. However, if they went to an islamic country, they wouldn't be offered the same treatment.
u should really come out to "islamic" countries and see how westerners are treated. in the gulf they are treated even better than muslim pakistanis and indians. the world still bows down to the white man.
The issue in Xinjiang is entirely an ethnic one.
There are many Muslim minority groups in China, including the Hui, the Kazakhs, the Dongxiang, the Kyrgyz, the Tajik, etc.
The Hui Chinese are by far the largest Muslim minority group in China, and they often find themselves in conflict with the Uyghurs as well. It is an issue of ethnic tension.
You are a bigot because you don't view these people as fellow German or Dutch citizens.
You justify their mistreatment by comparing it to something far away. What is the relevance of that comparison to a German Muslim born and bred in Germany? Would you say that black Germans should be forced to live in mud huts because that's the norm in equatorial Africa?
The report also talks about specific laws about headscarves, etc. which directly target religion.
^^^ cloak , he don't know the meaning of the word bigotry. Just " feigned one sided victim hood "
It's ironical, I'm actually very sympathetic towards the Islamic religion, I find it very logical and consistent. However, I'm abhorred of the practical behavior of some (see the undertone, how carefully I even formulate not to generalize all Muslims) Muslims. One can even go so far to say I criticize the behavior of the criminals among Muslims out of love for Islam, so they may better themselves as human beings. So calling me a bigot against Muslims above all is actually the dumbest thing to say to me.
Why Indian are intervening here, the same exact discriminations are perpetrated in India against it own Muslim Population.
For common criminals yes, everyone here will agree with you on that, but looking at the cause of it, most Muslim youth who turn to crime in Europe are living in ghettos, meaning like outcasts and the effect is what you see, so it has nothing to do with Islam at all, it is a social problem created by the same countries who are crying Wolfe!