‘Muslim Women Should be Taken from their Graves and Raped’: Where is Uttar Pradesh Headed Now?

[Guynextdoor2]

lol

prime example of blind hatred.

me and @adil_minhas were talking about Akhilesh Yadav here not yogi

But I'm talking about Yogi.

 

[StraightShooter]

This is serious Grave crime being suggested by this "so called Politician" to take out a person from grave and then commit a sexual act.

Only true animals or worse then animal scum bags would support such a motion

• First the discovery of Canabalism in India
  
• And now this vile recommendation

Disgusting and repulsive mindset

Should be renounced in United Nation

The best way to avoid such acts is to cremate instead of burying the dead bodies.

Hindus women and children use to commit self-immolation to avoid avoid rape and slavery from the invading islamic rulers.



29 MARCH, 2015 - 15:02 DHWTY
Jauhar - The History of Collective Self Immolation during War in India

Sadly, the fate of civilians in war has often been harsh, perhaps even more so in the past. Men would invariably be killed, and children were often sold into slavery. As for the women, they might be raped and then killed, or sometimes taken as prizes by the victors. One practice was developed by the Rajputs of India in order to prevent such a fate from befalling their queens and noble women. This rite was called Jauhar.
Although the Jauhar is related to the more well-known historical Indian practice of Sati (the self-immolation of widows on their deceased husbands’ funeral pyres), there are some important differences between the two. The Jauhar was only carried out during a war, involved not only women but also children, and was committed when both husband and wife were still alive.

The Jauhar would be performed when the Rajputs saw no hope of victory over their enemies.

During the Jauhar, which was said to take place during the night, Brahmin priests would chant Vedic mantras, and the Rajput women, wearing their wedding dresses, would commit suicide with their children via self-immolation. On the morning after the Jauhar, the men would carry out the Saka; after taking a bath, the men would wear saffron clothes, smear the ashes of their wives and children on their foreheads, and put a tulsi leaf in their mouths. Then, they would sally out either to annihilate their enemies or be annihilated by them.
It has been claimed that the Jauhar and Saka were never carried out when the Rajputs were at war with other Hindus, such as the Marathas, as the defeated could expect to be treated with dignity. It has also been claimed that on several occasions, the Rajputs sued for peace, and the Mughals agreed to their terms. When the Rajputs, their wives and children came to surrender, however, they were slaughtered by the Mughals. This treachery and deceit may have been the reason for the Jauhar and Saka to be established by the Rajputs.

When faced with their enemy, the Rajputs were inclined to commit Jauhar and Saka in the face of defeat, as they are said to have feared the reputation of their enemy, and dreaded what might befall their families.
One of the most famous Jauhars in Indian history took place in 1303 at Chittorgarh Fort. This is one of the largest forts in India, and is located in the north-western part of the country. Believed to be built by the Moris (who claimed descent from the Mauryans) in the seventh century A.D., Chittorgarh Fort changed owners several times throughout its history, and came into the possession of Sisodia dynasty, which ruled over the kingdom of Mewar, possibly sometime in the 12th or 13th century A.D.
In 1303, the fort was under the rule of the Rana (monarch) Rawal Ratan Singh, whose wife was Rani (wife of a monarch) Padmini. During the same year, the Sultan of Delhi, Alauddin Khilji, decided to besiege Chittorgarh Fort.

According to a fictionalized account of the siege in the 16th century epic poem Padmavat, the Sultan heard of Rani Padmani’s beauty, and sought to add her to his harem, therefore spurring his siege of Chittorgarh Fort. The Sultan sent messengers to the Rana, saying that he would spare the fort if he was given a glimpse of the Rani. Rana Rawal Ratan Singh agreed to his request, and Alauddin Khilji came into the fort unarmed, and had a glimpse of Rani Padmini through a set of mirrors. When the Rana was sending his guest off, he was treacherously ambushed and captured by the Sultan’s men at the outer gates of his own fort.

Illustration of Alauddin Khilji in the foreground, as the women commit suicide in the background. (1825) Public Domain
As news of Rana Rawal Ratan Singh’s capture reached the fort, the poetic account follows that Rani Padmini devised a plan to rescue her husband. Sending messengers to the Sultan, the Rani agreed to join Alauddin Khilji, on the condition that she was accompanied by 700 women who befitted her status. In each of the palanquins used to carry these women, however, the Rani hid several well-armed Rajput warriors. By doing so, the Rani was able to sneak several thousand warriors (which included the palanquin bearers) into Alauddin Khilji’s camp and rescue her husband.
Although the Rana was rescued, a fierce battle ensued at the outer gate of the fort, and the Rajput warriors, along with the Rana, were killed. Rather than surrendering to Alauddin Khilji, Rani Padmini, the women and the children are said to have all committed Jauhar, while the remaining men committed Saka the following morning.
The Burning of the Rajput women, during the siege of Chitor. This page of the Akbarnama depicts the 'jauhar', or burning, of the Rajput women following the fall of the fortress of Chitor in 1568. The women preferred to perish rather than be captured by the enemy, and it is thought that as many as 300 women died in the event.

The Burning of the Rajput women, during the siege of Chitor. This page of the Akbarnama depicts the 'jauhar', or burning, of the Rajput women following the fall of the fortress of Chitor in 1568. The women preferred to perish rather than be captured by the enemy, and it is thought that as many as 300 women died in the event. Public Domain
In the following centuries, the Jauhar would be carried out in the Chittorgarh Fort on two other occasions, namely during the siege by Bahadur Shah in 1535, and the siege by Akbar in 1567/8. Still, it is the Jauhar of 1303 that is the most well-known, perhaps due to the story associated with it, which depicts the bravery of the Rajputs, the wit and courage of Rani Padmini, and the treachery of Alauddin Khilji.
Featured image: 17th century illustration of a woman committing sati: self-immolation on her husband’s funeral pyre. Public Domain
References
Archaeological Survey of India, 2011. Ticketed Monuments - Rajasthan: Chittaurgarh Fort, Distt. Chittaurgarh. [Online]
asi nic in/asi_monu_tktd_raj_chittor.asp
Meyer, W. S., Burn, R., Cotton, J. S. & Risley, H. H., 1909. Imperial Gazetteer of India, The Indian Empire, Vol. II: Historical. Oxford: Clarendon Press.
Roy Rosenzweig Center for History and New Media, 2015. Sati. [Online]
chnm gmu edu/wwh/modules/lesson5/lesson5.php?s=0
Sanskriti, 2014. The Haunting Tales of Chittorgarh. [Online]
sanskritimagazine com/history/haunting-tales-chittorgarh/#
chittorgarh com, 2015. History of Chittorgarh. [Online]
chittorgarh com/chittorgarh_history.asp
indian-heritage org, 2015. Places of interest in Rajasthan: Chittorgarh. [Online]
indian-heritage org/states/rajasthan/chittor.html
By Ḏḥwty

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[adil_minhas]

no- he'll just blunder around with cow protection etc. and then fall. Modi didn't win because of cow protection, he won because he said he will fix economy. This joker doesn't even know the full form of GDP.

At a pretty young age, he is already a seasoned politician. Politics is in his blood. He belongs to the largest caste of a state that has more people than the population of Pakistan.

He is no pushover. He has demonstrated steel. He will learn quickly from his mistakes. And come back strong.

I would not dismiss him so quickly at all. It takes a different breed to be the leader of UP.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

At a pretty young age, he is already a seasoned politician. Politics is in his blood. He belongs to the largest caste of a state that has more people than the population of Pakistan.

He is no pushover. He has demonstrated steel. He will learn quickly from his mistakes. And come back strong.

I would not dismiss him so quickly at all. It takes a different breed to be the leader of UP.

but he is following the wrong narrative. A politician success only if he is a man of his time.

 

[SrNair]

They voted not because of development but because of Hindu vote consolidation

Well .Modi's rally was full with development.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

@adil_minhas you want to know the real reason why this clown was made CM? It was to cut Rajnath to size. Rajnath wanted to be UP CM to control the biggest vote bank in the country. It is well known that he will strike Modi down when he gets the chance to. A new face to counter his power and deny him his opportunity is all that this clown is. @ranjeet how come you didn't figure this out?

 

[Shamayl]

Yeah specially the one where he mentioned qabaristan

@adil_minhas you want to know the real reason why this clown was made CM? It was to cut Rajnath to size. Rajnath wanted to be UP CM to control the biggest vote bank in the country. It is well known that he will strike Modi down when he gets the chance to. A new face to counter his power and deny him his opportunity is all that this clown is.

Just a minor correction .this is more of preemptive strike against Rajnat's ambitions of PM.

 

[adil_minhas]

@adil_minhas you want to know the real reason why this clown was made CM? It was to cut Rajnath to size. Rajnath wanted to be UP CM to control the biggest vote bank in the country. It is well known that he will strike Modi down when he gets the chance to. A new face to counter his power and deny him his opportunity is all that this clown is.

I strongly think so too. Right now there is a traditional old school Vajpayee-esque BJP.

And the Gujarat wing that has caught the fancy of the electorate.

Neither the old school nor the RSS are happy campers.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

This has to get escalated to United Nation, we can't have such cult discussion of Vodo , brain eating sects (As exposed by CNN documentary) and now crazy cults opening stating in public speech about grave yard violations doing sexual acts on dead bodies happening in India

This is just "weired"

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Yeah specially the one where he mentioned qabaristan


Just a minor correction .this is more of preemptive strike against Rajnat's ambitions of PM.

isn't it obvious, everytime modi does something 'radical' like demonetization he and Jaitley get the brickbats while the HM quitely sits by sides, never inviting criticism. Its always the 'lunacy' of Modi. Our guy meanwhile quietly keeps building power. He doesn't even handle elections, allowing Jaitley and modi to be the fallguys for debacles like Bihar and Delhi. I don't think his chances have not diminished. Yogi is a clown. He isn't gonna fight effectively, that much is clear. Radiant would have consolidated BJP in UP. Yogi will squander away that opportunity in cow protection, temple etc.

 

[YeBeWarned]

So now the Dead Muslim women will suffer " cheer Haran " like Dorpati ? RIP to secular India

 

[NomanAli89]

India is repeating zia's mistake they are heading towards theocracy and becoming a hindu banana republic

The secular space is shrinking, religious fanatics and bigots are being elected to power

Religious dietary laws of one community are being forced on others, mumbo jumbo about there gods birthplace is being used to justify destruction of mosques

India is heading ine way and the writing is on the wall



In comparison Pakistan is becoming more secular hindu marriage law was recently inacted, we have christian holidays now
And for all our faults we have never vited for or elected extremists or religious parties

Its funny to see that people with Iranian blood can't leave a chance in demonizing Gen.Zia shaheed .....

 

[hussain0216]

Its funny to see that people with Iranian blood can't leave a chance in demonizing Gen.Zia shaheed .....

Dont let the name confuse you, i like Gen zia, compared to Yogi Zia is a saint

 

[duhastmish]

India is heading in wrong direction. But if by any remote chance this guy had change of heart. It will be great for his state.
But somehow i see american involvement extremism rising and fake facade of development it seems similar to what happnes when american try to change politics in some region of world.

 

[The Eagle]

The best way to avoid such acts is to cremate instead of burying the dead bodies.

Hindus women and children use to commit self-immolation to avoid avoid rape and slavery from the invading islamic rulers.



29 MARCH, 2015 - 15:02 DHWTY
Jauhar - The History of Collective Self Immolation during War in India

Sadly, the fate of civilians in war has often been harsh, perhaps even more so in the past. Men would invariably be killed, and children were often sold into slavery. As for the women, they might be raped and then killed, or sometimes taken as prizes by the victors. One practice was developed by the Rajputs of India in order to prevent such a fate from befalling their queens and noble women. This rite was called Jauhar.
Although the Jauhar is related to the more well-known historical Indian practice of Sati (the self-immolation of widows on their deceased husbands’ funeral pyres), there are some important differences between the two. The Jauhar was only carried out during a war, involved not only women but also children, and was committed when both husband and wife were still alive.

The Jauhar would be performed when the Rajputs saw no hope of victory over their enemies.

During the Jauhar, which was said to take place during the night, Brahmin priests would chant Vedic mantras, and the Rajput women, wearing their wedding dresses, would commit suicide with their children via self-immolation. On the morning after the Jauhar, the men would carry out the Saka; after taking a bath, the men would wear saffron clothes, smear the ashes of their wives and children on their foreheads, and put a tulsi leaf in their mouths. Then, they would sally out either to annihilate their enemies or be annihilated by them.
It has been claimed that the Jauhar and Saka were never carried out when the Rajputs were at war with other Hindus, such as the Marathas, as the defeated could expect to be treated with dignity. It has also been claimed that on several occasions, the Rajputs sued for peace, and the Mughals agreed to their terms. When the Rajputs, their wives and children came to surrender, however, they were slaughtered by the Mughals. This treachery and deceit may have been the reason for the Jauhar and Saka to be established by the Rajputs.

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When faced with their enemy, the Rajputs were inclined to commit Jauhar and Saka in the face of defeat, as they are said to have feared the reputation of their enemy, and dreaded what might befall their families.
One of the most famous Jauhars in Indian history took place in 1303 at Chittorgarh Fort. This is one of the largest forts in India, and is located in the north-western part of the country. Believed to be built by the Moris (who claimed descent from the Mauryans) in the seventh century A.D., Chittorgarh Fort changed owners several times throughout its history, and came into the possession of Sisodia dynasty, which ruled over the kingdom of Mewar, possibly sometime in the 12th or 13th century A.D.
In 1303, the fort was under the rule of the Rana (monarch) Rawal Ratan Singh, whose wife was Rani (wife of a monarch) Padmini. During the same year, the Sultan of Delhi, Alauddin Khilji, decided to besiege Chittorgarh Fort.

According to a fictionalized account of the siege in the 16th century epic poem Padmavat, the Sultan heard of Rani Padmani’s beauty, and sought to add her to his harem, therefore spurring his siege of Chittorgarh Fort. The Sultan sent messengers to the Rana, saying that he would spare the fort if he was given a glimpse of the Rani. Rana Rawal Ratan Singh agreed to his request, and Alauddin Khilji came into the fort unarmed, and had a glimpse of Rani Padmini through a set of mirrors. When the Rana was sending his guest off, he was treacherously ambushed and captured by the Sultan’s men at the outer gates of his own fort.

View attachment 386847
Illustration of Alauddin Khilji in the foreground, as the women commit suicide in the background. (1825) Public Domain
As news of Rana Rawal Ratan Singh’s capture reached the fort, the poetic account follows that Rani Padmini devised a plan to rescue her husband. Sending messengers to the Sultan, the Rani agreed to join Alauddin Khilji, on the condition that she was accompanied by 700 women who befitted her status. In each of the palanquins used to carry these women, however, the Rani hid several well-armed Rajput warriors. By doing so, the Rani was able to sneak several thousand warriors (which included the palanquin bearers) into Alauddin Khilji’s camp and rescue her husband.
Although the Rana was rescued, a fierce battle ensued at the outer gate of the fort, and the Rajput warriors, along with the Rana, were killed. Rather than surrendering to Alauddin Khilji, Rani Padmini, the women and the children are said to have all committed Jauhar, while the remaining men committed Saka the following morning.
The Burning of the Rajput women, during the siege of Chitor. This page of the Akbarnama depicts the 'jauhar', or burning, of the Rajput women following the fall of the fortress of Chitor in 1568. The women preferred to perish rather than be captured by the enemy, and it is thought that as many as 300 women died in the event.

View attachment 386848
The Burning of the Rajput women, during the siege of Chitor. This page of the Akbarnama depicts the 'jauhar', or burning, of the Rajput women following the fall of the fortress of Chitor in 1568. The women preferred to perish rather than be captured by the enemy, and it is thought that as many as 300 women died in the event. Public Domain
In the following centuries, the Jauhar would be carried out in the Chittorgarh Fort on two other occasions, namely during the siege by Bahadur Shah in 1535, and the siege by Akbar in 1567/8. Still, it is the Jauhar of 1303 that is the most well-known, perhaps due to the story associated with it, which depicts the bravery of the Rajputs, the wit and courage of Rani Padmini, and the treachery of Alauddin Khilji.
Featured image: 17th century illustration of a woman committing sati: self-immolation on her husband’s funeral pyre. Public Domain
References
Archaeological Survey of India, 2011. Ticketed Monuments - Rajasthan: Chittaurgarh Fort, Distt. Chittaurgarh. [Online]
asi nic in/asi_monu_tktd_raj_chittor.asp
Meyer, W. S., Burn, R., Cotton, J. S. & Risley, H. H., 1909. Imperial Gazetteer of India, The Indian Empire, Vol. II: Historical. Oxford: Clarendon Press.
Roy Rosenzweig Center for History and New Media, 2015. Sati. [Online]
chnm gmu edu/wwh/modules/lesson5/lesson5.php?s=0
Sanskriti, 2014. The Haunting Tales of Chittorgarh. [Online]
sanskritimagazine com/histo, ry/haunting-tales-chittorgarh/#
chittorgarh com, 2015. History of Chittorgarh. [Online]
chittorgarh com/chittorgarh_history.asp
indian-heritage org, 2015. Places of interest in Rajasthan: Chittorgarh. [Online]
indian-heritage org/states/rajasthan/chittor.html
By Ḏḥwty

ancient-origins net/history/jauhar-history-collective-self-immolation-during-war-india-002837?nopaging=1

Most of the history is being altered. Your side of story of same history is only in favour of what you have been told so no need to derail the topic from subject to history. By the way, whatever the history is of either side but such unethical thing to announce is not accepted by either of us so why not to condemn such inhuman approach rather than coming with excuses of not to bury the dead but do this or that. Why to divert every subject to influence your own approach upon others that Burying is Muslim thing as well as Christian does so you will change all that so that some insane may not commit an inhuman act contrary to what should have been done to deal with these criminals.