Muslim women cannot object to husbands’ marriages: CII chief

[VCheng]

That is the flaw of your system which you refuse to change! Or Maybe you didnt read the article properly!
As far as the implementation of the CII’s controversial recommendation is concerned, the Supreme Court had already decided last year in favour of DNA tests in rape cases. “The apex court has declared DNA evidence as admissible in rape cases. Now there is no ambiguity about it,” observed Barrister Salman Akram Raja, who was part of the case.
“Defying apex court judgments amount to contempt of court. In case the CII makes recommendations against the court judgement, it will be open for challenge,” Raja added.

What system? The same system where the SC's orders in the Missing Persons Case are flaunted so openly and brazenly by the faujis themselves? Why not flaunt any other directives like this one too? What you advocate is selective change that only suits your own fixed ideas, but it does not work like that in the real world. In the end, the outcomes are as horrible as can be expected given such selective inputs and rotten facilitators.

 

[Dubious]

What system? The same system where the SC's orders in the Missing Persons Case are flaunted so openly and brazenly by the faujis themselves? Why not flaunt any other directives like this one too? What you advocate is selective change that only suits your own fixed ideas, but it does not work like that in the real world. In the end, the outcomes are as horrible as can be expected given such selective inputs and rotten facilitators.

The same system you keep asking IK to do the right thing and go through SC

The same system you claimed will eventually clear up and become just "automatically"

The same system upholding democracy...which shouldnt be changed by a few thousands...

The same system you were for when you had to voice out against IK...stick to it

 

[VCheng]

The same system you keep asking IK to do the right thing and go through SC

The same system you claimed will eventually clear up and become just "automatically"

The same system upholding democracy...which shouldnt be changed by a few thousands...

The same system you were for when you had to voice out against IK...stick to it

Yes, that is why I predict such dire outcomes.

(What you support is even worse.)

 

[Dubious]

Yes, that is why I predict such dire outcomes.

(What you support is even worse.)

What exactly do you think I support?

Well you support SC over IK...so support it in its actions:

What system? The same system where the SC's orders in the Missing Persons Case are flaunted so openly and brazenly by the faujis themselves? Why not flaunt any other directives like this one too?

What you advocate is selective change that only suits your own fixed ideas, but it does not work like that in the real world. In the end, the outcomes are as horrible as can be expected given such selective inputs and rotten facilitators.

nothing selective...You are the one who was all for SC not changing or not being corrupt...So you should nod and accept it...change will come eventually...

 

[VCheng]

What exactly do you think I support?

Well you support SC over IK...so support it in its actions:




nothing selective...You are the one who was all for SC not changing or not being corrupt...So you should nod and accept it...change will come eventually...

I can wait for the change, I am in no rush at all.

 

[Patriots]

you CANNOT deal with just, like the Quran says

I might not do that's why I have only 1 wife but many can do ............

 

[Patriots]

Why laws are made specific to male only why not woman? Why not woman a given chance to marry 4 guys n still remains in marriage with all four if she can do justice with all of her four hubbies ?
I feel its defenseless if it exist in other religions .....

First of all this is not a law ... This is just a permission to men who can afford more than 1 wife and can do justice among them ... Secondly woman produces child ... If a woman will marry more than 1 husband than tell me which husband will own that kid ... As well as woman could not describe his actual father ..............

Its better to have man made laws than a such divine laws which is biased in nature for humans.....

Hahahaha ..............

You intentionally ignored other main points of her post like below:

2ndly, the men doesnt get pregnant

3rdly, men dont have menstruation

4thly, more men die in war and hence more widows and women need protecting....the allowance (for max of 4 during an era where there was no limit at all and no idea of justice in between the wives) was actually for that case...

Hypocrisy at its height just for maligning Islam

 

[utraash]

Well nature of human is biased...Why women have to suffer labour pain? Why not men?[/quote]

This is why women should be given more rightful place in society n all laws of society should have safeguards to women right not otherwise...
I have said many times this when such debates happens , men n women are different side of same coin ....
You should also accept no human,society, country,religion is perfect so scope of altering the laws / rule/ tradition is always there.....

 

[Patriots]

If you ask me it ought to be banned; polygamy was allowed as a social function in a 7th Century Tribal Society and then too with stringent conditions that cannot be met today by man and wasn't met in the past either hence why the precept 'You will never be able to do justice with them (your wives) so have only one' was stated in the Koran.

I agree with Iqbal that it should be banned if the State thinks that it isn't applicable today and has a harmful affect than the social benefit it was thought to convey in a Tribal society ! He said that when commenting on and agreeing with Turkiye's decision to abolish polygamy !

Polygamy was not as much needed in 7th centuary as today ... Could you calculate females population in Pakistan ... You women are absolute half of total population ... If you will ban polygamy in our present society than half of our women couldn't get married ... Rather I will emphasize to men to get married at least 2 women whether she is virgin, divorced or widow ..............

 

[utraash]

First of all this is not a law ... This is just a permission to men who can afford more than 1 wife and can do justice among them ... Secondly woman produces child ... If a woman will marry more than 1 husband than tell me which husband will own that kid ... As well as woman could not describe his actual father ..............

Bro in today's time by that logic of doing justices with wives many sheikhs can afford 2dozen wives, also all billionaire world wide can promote the theory of polygamy ... I can atleast afford two wives if financial conditions are criteria n so are many others ....
As i raised earlier there is no logic behind having four wives though you can do justice with all four or even more ....
Humans lust has no limit that you want to change your partner every night with all justice to all partners.....


Hahahaha ..............

You intentionally ignored other main points of her post like below:
All those are weird n absurd to me...



Hypocrisy at its height just for maligning Islam

I don't mind when things are raised to improvement with right spirit n intentions even if it is my religion.....

Well nature of human is biased...Why women have to suffer labour pain? Why not men?

This is why women should be given more rightful place in society n all laws of society should have safeguards to women right not otherwise...
I have said many times this when such debates happens , men n women are different side of same coin ....
You should also accept no human,society, country,religion is perfect so scope of altering the laws / rule/ tradition is always there.....[/quote]

@Akheilos

 

[Dubious]

I can wait for the change, I am in no rush at all.

Then dont complain if they look the other way for certain killings ...its your support that continues and approves of them!

This is why women should be given more rightful place in society n all laws of society should have safeguards to women right not otherwise...
I have said many times this when such debates happens , men n women are different side of same coin ....
You should also accept no human,society, country,religion is perfect so scope of altering the laws / rule/ tradition is always there.....

And that is exactly why women are the ones who are protected more from trauma (having to come to court and be thrown the torture of a stupid lawyer), rubbish eyes of society (hijab), given part of wealth (which was not the case before Islam arrived...everything was inherited by male heirs even female! and heck property still is in many societies)....and so on...

Rather I will emphasize to men to get married at least 2 women whether she is virgin, divorced or widow ..............

Sadly people do not seek divorcee or widows but only virgins and that too around 16-18 yrs of age

 

[Jf Thunder]

I might not do that's why I have only 1 wife but many can do ............

they also CANNOT DO, just as the Quran says.

btw i hope your wife knows your views

Is there any specific reason with number 4...?
I personally believe in one n only one.... Human lust has no ends if you give a reason of affordability.......

i am no schorlar, but i personally THINK it was a tradition and customs at that time, and if the Prophet (PBUH) had said that only one was allowed then a person who was married to 4 would have to divorce 3 of them, which could have caused some panic and confusion, that is why the verse says "Only if you can deal justly, and Allah knows you cannot, so it is better only one" so as to tell the Muslims to not marry more than one in their future marriages or the marriages of their children

 

[VCheng]

i am no schorlar, but i personally THINK it was a tradition and customs at that time, and if the Prophet (PBUH) had said that only one was allowed then a person who was married to 4 would have to divorce 3 of them, which could have caused some panic and confusion, that is why the verse says "Only if you can deal justly, and Allah knows you cannot, so it is better only one" so as to tell the Muslims to not marry more than one in their future marriages or the marriages of their children

That is an important point. Many things mentioned in the Quran are now in the realm of historic and/or cultural practices at the time it was revealed, and therefore need to be interpreted and applied with great care and caution.

 

[jatt+gutts]

How many wives did prophet Muhammad had.

Maybe they are Ok to be nth wife of a man. Usually men r said to b reason of all women's problem but truth is women by nature r passive n gullible. It's easy to scare women and women r ready to oblige. Even in this thread while men want equality of women. Women are ok with the way things are. Prophet was right women should b considerd half the men.

 

[jatt+gutts]

A just man wouldn't keep on marrying but will rather make sisters the widowed women.