Muslim Woman Fired From Work For Wearing Hijab In US

[A_Poster]

Something fishy going on here.

Businesses are not allowed to discriminate on the basis of religion and I am totally surprised that anyone would object to a hijab which does not Hide the face. What could be wrong with that...it is just a scarf...

However, why did this girl not wear the hijab to the interview, basically she presented a lie, this is not moral code of conduct. Was she trying to bring about a scenario to sue the employer?

A business owner has the right to chose how to present his business depending on the needs of his clientele.

Any owner would have been smart and found some other way to remove her if it was so objectionable to him.....that is what performance evaluations and PIPs are for...I don't think this is the full story...I think this lady is not telling the whole truth here.

No they are.

According to US law, a private businessman could fire you for all and sundry reason. It is only limited companies that are not allowed to discriminate on basis of religion.


And I do not understand this constant whining by Muslim over inane matters. They behave horribly towards other religions in countries where they are in majority. Remind me how many Muslim countries are there that does not discriminate on basis of religion?

The motto here seems to be: "Respect to me, oppression to thee".

 

[M_Saint]

if hindutva is that dangerous, i bet hindus would be facing much worse repurcussions than this woman... but hey.. they aren't being discriminated as much as muslims.. .are they ?? what does that tell you ?? the world doesn't see hindus through your eyes.

LOL re LOL ! It's baffling to see how dumb an Indian acts when it suits his interest OTH the same one demonstrates smartness wherever it's necessary. BTW, do U realize that the turban is longer, bigger than piece of cloth than hijab? And see, yesterday it was Niqab and some Indians supported the action citing Hijab wouldn't be an issue but today their lots changed the stance against the same Hijab.Tomorrow might be Kurta, Pajama. Hence, I said that it wasn't Niqab or Hijab but greater scheme of thwarting Muslim and Islamic practices.

Here are the Title VII rules, with examples: link

There are some complexities:

- Most dental practices are small and the religious garb non-discrimination rules only apply if there are 15+ employees.
- The belief must be "sincerely held". In this case, the employer can certainly question the sincerity of her belief, since she didn't show up to the job interview in the hijab and her "new observance" began so quickly after she started working there.
- That she was axed because customers might feel "uncomfortable" is NOT permitted. (Of course, if the employer is correct customers may seek treatment elsewhere, resulting in the business closing shop, with the result that the young lady is out of work once more.)

Yes, I agree that employer can question her sincerity and she needs satisfactory answer that might not even be enough for the employer to keep her but that hasn't happened. So, the burden of demonstrating sincere acts not only apply on her but also the employer as well.

 

[Solomon2]

Yes, I agree that employer can question her sincerity and she needs satisfactory answer -

It's a very low bar. The employee need only answer the employer's query as to why and answer that it's for religious reasons; the employer's approval is irrelevant. (If the employee neglects to say it's for religious reasons, he or she has kept her employer in ignorance and can't complain about religious discrimination.)

However, if the employee donned the hijab not out of sincere belief but to provoke her employer, that's a different matter. Did you note the difference between CAIR's recommendation and the employee's declaration? CAIR urged her to be re-hired with accommodation but the employee said no, she wouldn't go back if it was offered. While the employer appears ignorant of the law, the employee appears deceitful and spiteful, doesn't she?

Your comment is just an excuse to let the guy off.

Correct. As the Title VII info link above shows, an employer is not allowed to discriminate due to religious headgear at the job interview, either.

If anyone is offended by the hijab, you probably shouldn't be catering to them anyway.

Hello, this is medicine, Hippocratic oath and all, so you cater to everyone, including those who may hate your guts.

 

[Sky lord]

No they are.

According to US law, a private businessman could fire you for all and sundry reason. It is only limited companies that are not allowed to discriminate on basis of religion.


And I do not understand this constant whining by Muslim over inane matters. They behave horribly towards other religions in countries where they are in majority. Remind me how many Muslim countries are there that does not discriminate on basis of religion?

The motto here seems to be: "Respect to me, oppression to thee".

I am not a lawyer .....but as far as I know title VII requires all employers to accommodate the religious practices of an employee unless it causes him "undue hardship". I know of only one exception, that is if the employer is a religious organization. Clearly this is not the case here.

As for the other point Muslim majority countries do behave very badly to non Muslims in general , so why do we want to take them to provide our standards? The point is to have better standards .

 

[That Guy]

If she would have weared the hijab the first day,he wouldnt have hired her,she is at fault here.

US law is clear, this is discrimination.

That is exactly what he is doing. He is offended/not comfortable with the hijab and asking her to leave - that is not catering to her

Re-read my comment, he fired her, because he felt others would be offended by the hijab. I'm saying he shouldn't be catering to those that are easily offended by such things.

In US citizens live as per rules of US constitution and not be Islamic rules, if you want to be in US, be like a US citizen.

"Abba ka raaj nahi chalta US main, Jo marzi kar lo pahan lo.."

Find a job in Arabic countries or a mosque. You guys are so ashamed of what God has made you that you have to hide it from everyone else. There's a difference between decency and ashamed.

Your opinion is ridiculous. Who are you to tell others what they can and can't believe? Nobody.

You speak of the US constitution as if you know what it says. The first amendment of the US constitution guarantees religious freedom, and freedom from discrimination.

Next time, don't talk about things you have no knowledge of.

"Find a job in Arabic countries or a mosque"

How about you grow up, instead of using an argument a 12 year old would make.

 

[T-123456]

That's a stupid reason. US law is clear, this is discrimination.

Is there a law for deceiving?
Lets say i have a Halal Restaurant where many devote Muslims come in Hijabs,Burqas etc and a girl dresssed in moderate clothes(not revealing),ask for a waitress job,i hire her and she comes to work the next day in a mini skirt and a revealing T-shirt,would it be discrimination if i fire her?

 

[That Guy]

You right only about one thing that it is employers problem. Since its his problem, he is not complaining about it, he rather acted on it.
Hence employer acted on its own and fired her. Employer did not forced her to change her attire or her religion. Rather she is now free to practice it as much she wants at the privacy of her home

He acted without using his head. He broke the law, when he fired her because she practiced her religious belief; that is a direct violation of the US constitution.

 

[Butchcassidy]

Please read the post . You are arguing for the sake of it.



She did not were the head cover for the 1st two days or during the interview.

She suddenly turned religious on the 3rd day.

Well that's when her spiritual journey began, the third day

 

[That Guy]

Is there a law for deceiving?
Lets say i have a Halal Restaurant where many devote Muslims come in Hijabs,Burqas etc and a girl dresssed in moderate clothes(not revealing),ask for a waitress job,i hire her and she comes to work the next day in a mini skirt and a revealing T-shirt,would it be discrimination if i fire her?

If her dress code is based upon a religious belief, and you KNOW it is based up her personal religious belief, then yes, it is discrimination. Unless your company has a specific non-discriminatory dress code, you're literally breaking the law.

If someone converts to Islam, and they've worked with the company for years, why should they be fired for practicing their new faith? Similar principle stands here.

It is not deception, it is the employer's lack of due diligence.

 

[T-123456]

If her dress code is based upon a religious belief, and you KNOW it is based up her personal religious belief, then yes, it is discrimination. Unless your company has a specific non-discriminatory dress code, you're literally breaking the law.

If someone converts to Islam, and they've worked with the company for years, why should they be fired for practicing their new faith? Similar principle stands here.

It is not deception, it is the employer's lack of due diligence.

Diligence?

 

[That Guy]

And the deceiving part?

Again, the employer's fault for not doing his due diligence, so in the article's case, I don't believe that it is deception at all.

 

[T-123456]

Again, the employer's fault for not doing his due diligence, so in the article's case, I don't believe that it is deception at all.

Well,if she had done that to me,i would have fired her and im a Muslim.
Either you are or you are not.

 

[That Guy]

Correct. As the Title VII info link above shows, an employer is not allowed to discriminate due to religious headgear at the job interview, either.
Hello, this is medicine, Hippocratic oath and all, so you cater to everyone, including those who may hate your guts.

I was talking morally shouldn't be catering. I mean, business wise, you can cater to Hitler, but why would you?

 

[DesiGuy1403]

This lady cleared cheated to get the job.

But the doctor is also behaving like a JackAss.

 

[That Guy]

Well,if she had done that to me,i would have fired her and im a Muslim.

And you'd be breaking the law. I wouldn't fire her, instead I would implement a strict dress code company wide, with at least a month's head notice to figure of any personal needs of employees. There is a better way to fix this issue, other than giving employees false choices.