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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabian-led_intervention_in_Yemen
Trump recently, in a TV announcement together with Macron from France, said that super-wealthy Arab nations need to invest in their own security, both in terms of money, and actual troops in the field. Trump also said that these Muslim nations agreed to do it. We'll see if that holds true.
But when i read up on the Yemen conflict, i was severely disgusted by the current unprofessional of the Arab coalition that struck the Houtis in Yemen.
the laws of war have changed since 9/11.
first, massive loss of innocent life was considered a normal part of war.
then, people like me started speaking up about the utter stupidity of not doing enough to avoid killing the innocent (i started doing that around 2006), because it generates so much recruiting power for the ones being bombed and *their* friends.
the world is divided in maybe 1 to 2 dozen groups fighting for regional or inter-regional control.
alliances are formed, strikes paint targets on the ones performing the strikes, and an endless war for dominance quickly grows into something that is hard to stop, especially among people would start or enter a new war, even to merely avenge the death in another war/battle of some ancestor of theirs.
to put it short : Muslims are generally speaking cool with death in combat, civilian casualties (even using human shields), and wars that last forever.
so if you Muslims want to rule yourselves properly, you need to upgrade your art of war skills. URGENTLY.
and not the section of that art of war Book that's about "bigger and more brutal weapons".
what you really need to absorb right now, Arab Coalition fighting the Houtis in Yemen, is the section "non-lethal and non-violent tools of pursuasion",
and from the same book, the section "understanding the paramount need to always hold the moral highground",
it's chapters titled
"setting reasonable red lines not to be crossed" and
"communicating clearly in simple short terminology, and always communicating honestly, providing evidence whenever needed and possible, at all times" and
"minimal force principle" and
"always be willing to return to the negotiating table and have a (temporary) cease-fire" which lists an exception for a military prune mission. best always make that a preciscion strike campaign that even knows how much explosive to use against a building to destroy just that 1 building. this is a skill the Muslim militaries will need to become as expertised in as western military demolition experts.
are all really important.
and -your current lesson- the chapter from that last-mentioned section titled "avoiding the loss of innocent life even if it means you have to let your valid target live another day too",
and from the same section the chapter "less-lethal precise weapons". think : smartbomb that penetrates roof of car and explodes with just enough force to (A) completely knockout everyone inside and (B) kill all aboard,
rather than a bigger bomb that hurts the people in cars next to your target too.
why has this become so important since 9/11, you might very validly wonder.
because i soon noticed in my interactions with Muslims, that whenever the West made too many innocent casualties, recruitment power for Muslim terror groups skyrocketted.
the Western lies about Iraq WMD stockpiles, the sanctions on Saddam that led to famine in Iraq, the comfy prisons in Iraq which Muslim terror captives could plot the creation of ISIS (they should have kept them in jail for the rest of their lives for those unshakable ambitions of theirs).... we do not forget our mistakes, and our free press and peoples see to it neither do any of our current leaders, now or in the future.
so there's hope.
but while i welcome our Arab allies to get into the fight that affects their own region most of all,
i must issue this serious warning against thinking mass casualties and shock effect wins you the war these days. i had to hammer that into the Americans and Israelis, and they've seen the wisdom of my logic on that point (and other points sometimes too by the way).
Shock and awe and murderous brutatlity might work for Assad in Syria, but it will NOT work in other places (like Yemen).
we here in the West are also going to work within a few weeks, on the expansion-by-violence coming from Iran. The headlines on and after May 12 will be interesting because Trump has said he might not prolong the Iran nuclear deal any further, and Macron from France has indicated that the long-term nuclear plans of Iran, the ICBM program of Iran, and the attempts by Iran to gain regional control/influence, should be on the negotiating table.
i'll keep reading and get to the roots and entire independently reported history of the Yemeni Houti conflict within about a week. I need to do that (after a long break), because any people picking up arms against a much stronger foe, might have some initial real grievances that caused them to pick up some arms before their conflict escalated into a total shit-storm.
and if there's one thing i really hate it's those meat-grinder perpetual shit-storm wars.
so i'll try to help broker a peace for Yemen too.
A military intervention was launched by Saudi Arabia in 2015, leading a coalition of nine African and Middle Eastcountries, to influence the outcome of the Yemeni Civil War in favour of the government of President Abdrabbuh Mansur Hadi. Code-named Operation Decisive Storm (Arabic: عملية عاصفة الحزم 'Amaliyyat 'Āṣifat al-Ḥazm), the intervention initially consisted of a bombing campaign on Houthi Rebels and later saw a naval blockade and the deployment of ground forces into Yemen.[118][64][119][120] The Saudi-led coalition has attacked the positions of the Houthi militia and loyalists of the former President of Yemen, Ali Abdullah Saleh, allegedly supported by Iran (See Iran–Saudi Arabia proxy conflict), in response to a request from the internationally recognized government of President Abdrabbuh Mansur Hadi.[121][122] The perception that Iran is directly controlling the Houthis is contradicted due to a statement made in April 2015, by National Security Council spokeswoman Bernadette Meehan: "It remains our assessment that Iran does not exert command and control over the Houthis in Yemen"[123][124]
Fighter jets and ground forces from Egypt, Morocco, Jordan, Sudan, the United Arab Emirates, Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrainand Academi mercenaries also took part in the operation. Djibouti, Eritrea and Somalia made their airspace, territorial waters and military bases available to the coalition.[24] The United States provided intelligence and logistical support, including aerial refueling and search-and-rescue for downed coalition pilots.[6][125] It also accelerated the sale of weapons to coalition states.[126] US and Britain have deployed their military personnel in the command and control centre responsible for Saudi-led air strikes on Yemen, having access to lists of targets.[127][128][129] Pakistan was called on by Saudi Arabia to join the coalition, but its parliament voted to maintain neutrality.[130] On 21 April 2015, the Saudi-led military coalition announced an end to Operation Decisive Storm, saying the intervention's focus would "shift from military operations to the political process".[131][132][133] The kingdom and its coalition partners said they would be launching political and peace efforts, which they called Operation Restoring Hope (Arabic: عملية إعادة الأمل 'Amaliyyat 'I'ādat al-'Amal). However, the coalition did not rule out using force, saying it would respond to threats and prevent Houthi militants from operating within Yemen.[133] Qatar was suspended from the coalition due to the 2017 Qatar diplomatic crisis.[134]
The war has received widespread criticism and had a dramatic worsening effect on the humanitarian situation, that reached the level of a "humanitarian disaster"[15] or "humanitarian catastrophe".[135][136][137] After the Saudi-led coalition declared the entire Saada Governorate a military target, the UN's Humanitarian Coordinator for Yemen and Human Rights Watch said that air strikes by the Saudi-led coalition on Saada city in Yemen were in breach of international law.[138][139] On 1 July UN declared for Yemen a "level-three" emergency – the highest UN emergency level – for a period of six months.[140][141] Human rights groups repeatedly blamed the Saudi-led military coalition for killing civilians and destroying health centers and other infrastructure with airstrikes.[142] The de facto blockade left 78% (20 million) of the Yemeni population in urgent need of food, water and medical aid. Aid ships are allowed, but the bulk of commercial shipping, on which the country relies, is blocked.[143] In one occasion, coalition jets prevented an Iranian Red Crescentplane from landing by bombing Sana'a International Airport's runway, which blocked aid delivery via air.[144] As of 10 December, more than 2,500,000 people had been internally displaced by the fighting.[145] Many countries evacuated more than 23,000 foreign citizens from Yemen.[146][147][148] More than 1,000,000 people fled Yemen for Saudi Arabia,[149] Djibouti, Somalia, Ethiopia, Sudan and Oman.[148] The war has caused a humanitarian crisis, including a famine which has threatened over 17 million people, as well as an outbreak of cholera which has infected thousands.
Trump recently, in a TV announcement together with Macron from France, said that super-wealthy Arab nations need to invest in their own security, both in terms of money, and actual troops in the field. Trump also said that these Muslim nations agreed to do it. We'll see if that holds true.
But when i read up on the Yemen conflict, i was severely disgusted by the current unprofessional of the Arab coalition that struck the Houtis in Yemen.
the laws of war have changed since 9/11.
first, massive loss of innocent life was considered a normal part of war.
then, people like me started speaking up about the utter stupidity of not doing enough to avoid killing the innocent (i started doing that around 2006), because it generates so much recruiting power for the ones being bombed and *their* friends.
the world is divided in maybe 1 to 2 dozen groups fighting for regional or inter-regional control.
alliances are formed, strikes paint targets on the ones performing the strikes, and an endless war for dominance quickly grows into something that is hard to stop, especially among people would start or enter a new war, even to merely avenge the death in another war/battle of some ancestor of theirs.
to put it short : Muslims are generally speaking cool with death in combat, civilian casualties (even using human shields), and wars that last forever.
so if you Muslims want to rule yourselves properly, you need to upgrade your art of war skills. URGENTLY.
and not the section of that art of war Book that's about "bigger and more brutal weapons".
what you really need to absorb right now, Arab Coalition fighting the Houtis in Yemen, is the section "non-lethal and non-violent tools of pursuasion",
and from the same book, the section "understanding the paramount need to always hold the moral highground",
it's chapters titled
"setting reasonable red lines not to be crossed" and
"communicating clearly in simple short terminology, and always communicating honestly, providing evidence whenever needed and possible, at all times" and
"minimal force principle" and
"always be willing to return to the negotiating table and have a (temporary) cease-fire" which lists an exception for a military prune mission. best always make that a preciscion strike campaign that even knows how much explosive to use against a building to destroy just that 1 building. this is a skill the Muslim militaries will need to become as expertised in as western military demolition experts.
are all really important.
and -your current lesson- the chapter from that last-mentioned section titled "avoiding the loss of innocent life even if it means you have to let your valid target live another day too",
and from the same section the chapter "less-lethal precise weapons". think : smartbomb that penetrates roof of car and explodes with just enough force to (A) completely knockout everyone inside and (B) kill all aboard,
rather than a bigger bomb that hurts the people in cars next to your target too.
why has this become so important since 9/11, you might very validly wonder.
because i soon noticed in my interactions with Muslims, that whenever the West made too many innocent casualties, recruitment power for Muslim terror groups skyrocketted.
the Western lies about Iraq WMD stockpiles, the sanctions on Saddam that led to famine in Iraq, the comfy prisons in Iraq which Muslim terror captives could plot the creation of ISIS (they should have kept them in jail for the rest of their lives for those unshakable ambitions of theirs).... we do not forget our mistakes, and our free press and peoples see to it neither do any of our current leaders, now or in the future.
so there's hope.
but while i welcome our Arab allies to get into the fight that affects their own region most of all,
i must issue this serious warning against thinking mass casualties and shock effect wins you the war these days. i had to hammer that into the Americans and Israelis, and they've seen the wisdom of my logic on that point (and other points sometimes too by the way).
Shock and awe and murderous brutatlity might work for Assad in Syria, but it will NOT work in other places (like Yemen).
we here in the West are also going to work within a few weeks, on the expansion-by-violence coming from Iran. The headlines on and after May 12 will be interesting because Trump has said he might not prolong the Iran nuclear deal any further, and Macron from France has indicated that the long-term nuclear plans of Iran, the ICBM program of Iran, and the attempts by Iran to gain regional control/influence, should be on the negotiating table.
i'll keep reading and get to the roots and entire independently reported history of the Yemeni Houti conflict within about a week. I need to do that (after a long break), because any people picking up arms against a much stronger foe, might have some initial real grievances that caused them to pick up some arms before their conflict escalated into a total shit-storm.
and if there's one thing i really hate it's those meat-grinder perpetual shit-storm wars.
so i'll try to help broker a peace for Yemen too.