Musharraf's The Man

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well according to scholars they are not muslims.

but it dosnt means that they should be discriminated against !

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thats my point Ahsan.

And i literally scream this: The State CANNOT/SHOULDNOT interfere in religion. What is it to the govt whether they call themselves or what. They CANNOT be discriminated against just because they call themselves Muslims. This is ridiculous. Do you get me? Whether other Muslims consider the Ahmediyyas as Muslims or not, is the publics opinion, the govt should not intervene. To pass a law againt any Ahmediyaa who calls himself a Muslim is just plain radicalisation or Talibanisation.

This is exactly like what the Taliban did, they made laws and punished every one who did not follow their interpretation of Islam. From women who have to be veiled or were beaten severely to many other things. Every drop makes an ocean.

 

[Contrarian]

Let me show you some lies in this article and/or propaganda.


Please tell me how turning Pakistan into an Islamic state means Pakistan becomes a radical country. That's just a theory, not much else.

Well, it means that Any non muslim cannot become President, etc, etc, etc, etc. Do you get it? The government should not get involved in religion. That is the bottom line. Mohd Jinnah did not imagine Pakistan to be non secular. Pakistan was intended to be a state primarily for the Muslims of the subcontinent. However he did not want it to be an Islamic state. It was still to be secular.

So what's wrong with that law? If you're not going to accept that Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is the last prophet, you're not a muslim. Simple as that. There's nothing wrong with such law. No ifs and buts.

Read my previous post.

OH DEAR. That's all I am going to say about this sentence. You get the idea.

This is an AND/OR thing. This means any one who denigrates Prophet Muhammad AND/OR converts out of Islam will be criminally liable. What the hell? Whats the Govt gotta do with any one denigrating Prophet Muhammad?
Where's the freedom of speech? There maybe riots, there may be public anger at whoever denigrates Prohet Muhammad, he maybe beaten by the PUBLIC, but how can the govt convict him for it?

This is radicalisation of the country and secret policing.

It was only MMA that was calling kite-flying un-Islamic.

Whatever.

LMFAO. No one wants Pakistan to confront America. People just don't want to keep any relations with USA. Simple. Good example of a made-up lie.

Tell me the truth, is it not prevailant there, people support the Taliban and wanted Pakistan to support Taliban as well, when US invaded Afghanistan. Is that not the reason Musharraf got exxtremely unpopular there and people talk about Musharraf's U turn.

There are still a few more lies that I can clearly see. I am not going to go and correct them since its a waste of point and I've already proven the credibility of this propaganda piece.

You have my reply.

 

[A.Rahman]

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thats my point Ahsan.

And i literally scream this: The State CANNOT/SHOULDNOT interfere in religion. What is it to the govt whether they call themselves or what. They CANNOT be discriminated against just because they call themselves Muslims. This is ridiculous. Do you get me? Whether other Muslims consider the Ahmediyyas as Muslims or not, is the publics opinion, the govt should not intervene. To pass a law againt any Ahmediyaa who calls himself a Muslim is just plain radicalisation or Talibanisation.

Its not an ordinary peoples view, but view of 2 billion muslims all over the world.
The law is that they cant become president or prime minister, which makes sense since its an "Islamic republic of Pakistan". Look at israel, you need to be a Jew to become president. how come no one calls Israel Taliban?

what I meant was that if convicted of crime the Ahemediyya should be given fair trail, according to Islam. And I fully support the bill passed by Bhutto that they are religious minority with certain rights.

 

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Well, it means that Any non muslim cannot become President, etc, etc, etc, etc. Do you get it? The government should not get involved in religion. That is the bottom line. Mohd Jinnah did not imagine Pakistan to be non secular. Pakistan was intended to be a state primarily for the Muslims of the subcontinent. However he did not want it to be an Islamic state. It was still to be secular.



Read my previous post.

Mate, just accept the fact that its a Islamic republic. 97% of the people are muslim. I doubt any non-muslim would come into power even if they were allowed to.

This is an AND/OR thing. This means any one who denigrates Prophet Muhammad AND/OR converts out of Islam will be criminally liable. What the hell? Whats the Govt gotta do with any one denigrating Prophet Muhammad?
Where's the freedom of speech? There maybe riots, there may be public anger at whoever denigrates Prohet Muhammad, he maybe beaten by the PUBLIC, but how can the govt convict him for it?

As far as I know, there is no such law. This so-called law has been made up by the indian journalist to do his propaganda.

Tell me the truth, is it not prevailant there, people support the Taliban and wanted Pakistan to support Taliban as well, when US invaded Afghanistan. Is that not the reason Musharraf got exxtremely unpopular there and people talk about Musharraf's U turn.
You have my reply.

No, most people do not support Taliban. What you hear on the media may not be true. They are only supported on the tribal areas, and that is pretty much it.