Musharraf to face Pakistan probe

[moha199]

I can only say to people like you APP KA ALLAH HI HAFIZ

See when one can't support his/her claims this is how it goes...... I have challenged People on this forum to prove anyone better then Musharraf and no one ever did..... Many came and said this or that but no one could prove that any government is better then Musharraf's. We had everything but we hated him for everything...... We say he banned Geo for weeks but he is the one who gave us over 60 channels whe we only had one..... So it's like i give you 60 candies and then i take one for a week and you forget about the rest 59????? Nawaz gave us one Moterway, he is the best.... But when Musharraf who completed all the moterways he is the bad guy ahahah We were left with two weeks of imports he left us 16 billions from 400 millions if iam not mistaken but he is the bad guy.... We had Mobile link instafone, Paktel he left us with god knows how many companies he is the bad guy. We education system was bad we only knew how to be engineer or doctor mostly again mostly but he opend different fields for us and he is the bad guy"telecomunication,finance, look at the numbers when kids used to feel say bcom is what now he time period made business field strong it field strong" Nawaz wanted to bring mercedes factory to Pakistan and he is the good but in Musharraf time we made tanks on export level JF 17 on export level and he is the bad guy. There isn't even single case of corruption on him so we look for breaking law by imposing emergency!!!!! Se recently we saw Iran and we said why Iranians are acting funny and hurting their own country, this is how people like me feel about most of our country men...... Musharraf is making better image of Pakistan overseas and what we are paying him back by talking of hanging him.... what a great nation..... When India was talking about attacking Pakistan no one said a word, nawaz was the first guy to say Kasab was Pakistani without investigation Zardari was shut Yousaf was silent but who reached out to India and convey the message that if you attack we will attack you back it was Musharraf but he is still the Bad guy...... Take off the hate viel off of Pakistani people against this guy please...... I can go on and on. lastly. Today we call every single taliban a terrorist but when Musharraf used to beg us to recognize these terrorist we called them Mujahideens adn we loved them and as soon Musharraf is gone Pakistan's mujaideens are Terrorist... we accepted Musharraf's words but again he is the Bad guy......

 

[moha199]

Check this out its so sweet. Pakistan First
Musharraf's time. Dubai was gonna invest 10 billions in Pakistan, Just one example CHECK THE LINK Now if anyone tell me what happend all of the sudden, My answer to those who told you to take on to sstreets and praise Talibans, Who told you to bring the unrest, Who told you to support the corrupts, We are getting paid for what we have done. We all are shared in this crime but to blame one guy and you know his name. SAD

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Pakistan
http://www.ameinfo.com/87639.html
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/pk.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/5338402.stm

 

[forcetrip]

I am sorry but this country needs common sense before a constitution .. You cannot just jump to having rules and regulations for people when they are incapable of comprehending basic functions. You cannot expect a person to steal a bike so he can go to the mosque. This country keeps getting eaten from within and the rope a dope is .. they broke the constitution .. Where are the basic necessities that come before law and order and security? .. The billions of dollars that rolled out of here when Musharraf left was not someone stealing it .. It was peoples money they found lucrative during his term to stay here. They made a ruckus cause they could not steal that as well. Unfortunate.

 

[moha199]

Pakistani's only need reality checks, As far as i think or feel. Only Musharraf's supporters take Pakistan first, even before Musharraf and this is how it should be but When Nawaz was the first one to harm Pakistan after 26/11 people didn't say nothing instead they agreed with him, When nawaz blaimed everything on army on kargil his supporters agreed with him blindly and accused their very own army Same goes for Benazir, She spoke of US troops on ground PPP's people didn't say a word, when she told how she will give AQ khan to be questioned by CIA no one from them said a word, list goes on and on. Most of musharraf's supporters say forget even Musharraf think of Pakistan. we say you want to hang Musharraf? Hang him later first tell nawaz and Zardari to fix Pakistan which they ruined in the form of election rallies Lawers march Lal masjid protests etc

 

[moha199]

This Video Proves itself that all these crooks are trying to take attention of Pakistanis from their failures and but it to something with has no weigh. No there is one way to get Musharraf which is Change the Ien to get Musharraf lmao We Pakistani are so innocent that we don't think twice when PPP and PMl-N

 

[Zob]

if MUSHI wants me to remember him as a HERO for ever he should COME back and FACE the charges like a MAN and not hide like ALTAF or NAWAZ.....

i would like to request the GREAT COMMANDO to come back and i want the army to pressurize him inorder to come back......because now it is ABOUT the ARMY & MUSHARRAF the so called FIST showing HERO!!

 

[jalip]

See when one can't support his/her claims this is how it goes...... I have challenged People on this forum to prove anyone better then Musharraf and no one ever did..... Many came and said this or that but no one could prove that any government is better then Musharraf's. We had everything but we hated him for everything...... We say he banned Geo for weeks but he is the one who gave us over 60 channels whe we only had one..... So it's like i give you 60 candies and then i take one for a week and you forget about the rest 59????? Nawaz gave us one Moterway, he is the best.... But when Musharraf who completed all the moterways he is the bad guy ahahah We were left with two weeks of imports he left us 16 billions from 400 millions if iam not mistaken but he is the bad guy.... We had Mobile link instafone, Paktel he left us with god knows how many companies he is the bad guy. We education system was bad we only knew how to be engineer or doctor mostly again mostly but he opend different fields for us and he is the bad guy"telecomunication,finance, look at the numbers when kids used to feel say bcom is what now he time period made business field strong it field strong" Nawaz wanted to bring mercedes factory to Pakistan and he is the good but in Musharraf time we made tanks on export level JF 17 on export level and he is the bad guy. There isn't even single case of corruption on him so we look for breaking law by imposing emergency!!!!! Se recently we saw Iran and we said why Iranians are acting funny and hurting their own country, this is how people like me feel about most of our country men...... Musharraf is making better image of Pakistan overseas and what we are paying him back by talking of hanging him.... what a great nation..... When India was talking about attacking Pakistan no one said a word, nawaz was the first guy to say Kasab was Pakistani without investigation Zardari was shut Yousaf was silent but who reached out to India and convey the message that if you attack we will attack you back it was Musharraf but he is still the Bad guy...... Take off the hate viel off of Pakistani people against this guy please...... I can go on and on. lastly. Today we call every single taliban a terrorist but when Musharraf used to beg us to recognize these terrorist we called them Mujahideens adn we loved them and as soon Musharraf is gone Pakistan's mujaideens are Terrorist... we accepted Musharraf's words but again he is the Bad guy......

what you are writing is showing your knowledge plz come out of you small world the existence of pakistan is in danger cuz of musharaf policies so kasab is not a pakistan ? did you know that every country of the world have constitutions use your thick mind and find about importance of constitution in a country Jf 17 was not started by mushraf it was started in political govt. countries are not made with motorways ( that was totally NS plan) india dont have one they make their system strong so know world is coming to them for nuclear deals their political system is mature know and our will not be if we have thick head like you
what can you do with tanks we have examples of yours tanks from Bangladesh cant even beat less then 5 feet bangalies India will not attack Pakistan they give a damn about Pakistan know come out of your dreams.
compare with india on economics and finance, education, and most of them political system instead of weapons 16 billion with 15 billion American dollar of killing innocent children
and don't argue with me on economy i think i have batter understanding then you as i am student of it for the last 10 years he build consumer economy nothing else any country can do it but first of all you need to build infrastructure
Take the example of Air conditions in his time he allows the cheap imports of AC that creates huge electricity demands and he did not produce electricity to meet the demands.
Pakistan the only country in the world with cheapest telephone call and shortage of essential food items like wheat
by building few buildings you cant say u r developing
poor people that comprise 60 % of Pakistan population needs
1 Healthy and cheap food
2 Good education
3 A sense of security
4 cheap living
5 job opportunities
6 proper health system
7 A political system in which they can freely elects their leaders

You tell me with evidence what we achieve under mushraf
read on internet about importance of constitution in world great country india is just following the book which we also need to follow
regards

 

[Khalids]

if MUSHI wants me to remember him as a HERO for ever he should COME back and FACE the charges like a MAN and not hide like ALTAF or NAWAZ.....

i would like to request the GREAT COMMANDO to come back and i want the army to pressurize him inorder to come back......because now it is ABOUT the ARMY & MUSHARRAF the so called FIST showing HERO!!

It is called Musharraf ki yaad aaee Musharraf k JANE k baad.

Pakistan is missing Musharraf so much these days that a summon has to be issued through SC to see him back.

 

[ajpirzada]

^^hahahaaha

 

[Khalids]

Dear moha199, please read these reports from BBC (Urdu) to better know the effects of Musharraf's economic policies.

I think it is what we were told trickle down effect.

The first report is about ever expanding sex market in Pakistan because of poverty (would you like Musharraf to invest some money in social reform?)

?BBC Urdu? - ????????? - ???? ????? ?? ???????

I don't know what Musharraf would have said about it. Some thing, supposedly, like "these women are doing this to get US/Canadian visa".

Here is the other one. This is about ever expanding number of drinkers because of prevailing socio-economic situation of this country, the foundations of what were laid by Musharraf.

I think this is what we were told soft image of Pakistan.

?BBC Urdu? - ????????? - ?????? ??? ?? ???? ?????

 

[Interceptor]

Dear you are very right, there would be no punishment. But it has very vital symbolic importance. Though even it seems to be sort of “setting records straight”, it can be an ray of hope in a very long dark tunnel. Hope this would force “to be president” army officers to think twice before any adventure

I have a critical point if you could explain because I see this event unfolding at a very late stage. My question is why didn't the CJP take notice of Musharraf when he was enjoying his spoils in Chak Shahzad. It makes no sense. If we really wanted him to be "punished" than that clearly was the chance why were we sitting on our laurels more specifically why was CJP not acting, is he thick?

The lawyers movement massed an army of black coats fearless unstoppable, no police no Musharraf could stop it, and put Iftikhar Chaudry right back on his thrown. We cheered him we knew it, this was it the lawyers will petition in the legality of Musharraf as President. But CJP didn't even want chair this very important constitutional case. Than came Nov 3rd everyone was pinned down by guns. Musharraf a defeated dictator won by a miracle, coming from certain person. If CJP had made it into a speedy trail made Musharraf illegal to run another term as Army Chief and President than there would never have been a Nov 3rd.

 

[Murshad]

I have a critical point if you could explain because I see this event unfolding at a very late stage. My question is why didn't the CJP take notice of Musharraf when he was enjoying his spoils in Chak Shahzad. It makes no sense. If we really wanted him to be "punished" than that clearly was the chance why were we sitting on our laurels more specifically why was CJP not acting, is he thick?

The lawyers movement massed an army of black coats fearless unstoppable, no police no Musharraf could stop it, and put Iftikhar Chaudry right back on his thrown. We cheered him we knew it, this was it the lawyers will petition in the legality of Musharraf as President. But CJP didn't even want chair this very important constitutional case. Than came Nov 3rd everyone was pinned down by guns. Musharraf a defeated dictator won by a miracle, coming from certain person. If CJP had made it into a speedy trail made Musharraf illegal to run another term as Army Chief and President than there would never have been a Nov 3rd.

You are right. It is going to be very complicated and opening like a pandora box. One thing all we have to understand that it makes no effect whether Mushraf is in Pakistan or not. Suppose he is in Pakistan and SC serve him notice and he refuses to obey, no one in correct state of mind should think that he would be arrested under normal circumstances. He has umbrella of army generals at in for some near future. It is said that he was in china when message from his “own community” given, don’t come to Pakistan. Now you can understand how our ruling establishment behaves.

Our judiciary had a very beautiful tradition. If during your trial you say “this judge is biased” or even there is an impression of being biased, he used to opt not to sit in bench and hear that case. This tradition was well practiced till ZAB case was put before the then chief justices of Lahore high court. ZAB openly questioned the impartiality of Maulvi Mushtaq Hussain. There are few other examples but Maulvi Mushtaq’s example is the first prominent example.
3rd November happened because of some unnecessary preventive actions. Even at that time there were rumors of spilt decision of supreme court.

Any way this situation is going to be very interesting for a political science student. How govt will react and how big is going to be its impact

 

[XYON]

I think the following Punjabi saying is applicable in this SC-CJ-Mush drama!

KUJ VI NA HOSI; PARR JADON TAPSI TAAN THUSS KARSEE!

(nothing will happen; except that when it will heat up it will fizzle out)

 

[moha199]

what you are writing is showing your knowledge plz come out of you small world the existence of pakistan is in danger cuz of musharaf policies so kasab is not a pakistan ? did you know that every country of the world have constitutions use your thick mind and find about importance of constitution in a country Jf 17 was not started by mushraf it was started in political govt. countries are not made with motorways ( that was totally NS plan) india dont have one they make their system strong so know world is coming to them for nuclear deals their political system is mature know and our will not be if we have thick head like you
what can you do with tanks we have examples of yours tanks from Bangladesh cant even beat less then 5 feet bangalies India will not attack Pakistan they give a damn about Pakistan know come out of your dreams.
compare with india on economics and finance, education, and most of them political system instead of weapons 16 billion with 15 billion American dollar of killing innocent children
and don't argue with me on economy i think i have batter understanding then you as i am student of it for the last 10 years he build consumer economy nothing else any country can do it but first of all you need to build infrastructure
Take the example of Air conditions in his time he allows the cheap imports of AC that creates huge electricity demands and he did not produce electricity to meet the demands.
Pakistan the only country in the world with cheapest telephone call and shortage of essential food items like wheat
by building few buildings you cant say u r developing
poor people that comprise 60 % of Pakistan population needs
1 Healthy and cheap food
2 Good education
3 A sense of security
4 cheap living
5 job opportunities
6 proper health system
7 A political system in which they can freely elects their leaders

You tell me with evidence what we achieve under mushraf
read on internet about importance of constitution in world great country india is just following the book which we also need to follow
regards

Okey let me answer your things in my view, First of all We didn't get american 15 billion dollers. We recived 10 billion out of 6 were military money which we deployed on the boarder, we paid their weaponry there war cost etc, 4 billion left which were spent on other issues over the period of 8 years but guess what in Nawaz sharif time Pakistan used to get 2.5 billion aid from USA go do some research. Army didn't kill Pakistani but terrorist. Breaking constitution? What happend when Nawaz even stormed the suprem court in 90s what was that. Pakistan was getting bank curropt if you have any knowledge, benazir forget her wshe took over a 3 billions from Pakistan!!!!!!! Moterways were NS idea but who completed them? when benazir came she stoped all the NS projets and when Nawaz did he stopped her's!!!! Do you know how much of billions of RS we lost because of this. Did you ever think why every time the president of that time had to kick them out of office?????? I have seen people making their life between 1999-2007 but i have seen misery before and after this time. Man we have tried both of these crooks NS and Bhutto family we need new people adn let it be Musharraf or anyother person like you and me i don't care but not them who stole our money in their terms. You can't compare Pakistan with india, Since Pakistan was the most sanctioned nation on earth we had no strong friend like india did, Russia always backed India but who was backing us? china who was ever struggeling herself. Our 30 imports are to USA do you even know that adn china we export less then 8%!!!! Man get your acts streight brother then come to this. Pakistan was way better in the time period of 2001-2007 then ever was in past decades. We had no money comming into Pakistan in terms of investment and so economy size limited, Do you know how much Pakistan invest in making doctors and engineers and they end up going to other countries because we don't have much hospitals and infrastructure so people go out of Pakistan and serve other countries. Think into micro issues in order to fix Pakistan and this is what Musharraf was doing. Bring phone companies which brought over hundred of thousands of jobs related to different fields, which means now people study and work in Pakistan instead of other countries, from IT to people phone shops. media, when did you hear people studding journalism on mass level before Musharraf time. just think how much and what kind of jobs media industry hold from IT to finance to cable companies. This is what you call a visionary leader. Power crises sure he was lacking and he should have done more to save us from what we are going through right now and i totally agree with everyone but Pakistan never expected to have that much of power use in such a small period of time. I remember when only few houses used to have AC in entire street but today almost every single house has AC TV computer etc and list goes on and on. Brother what you are doing is jumping on the conclusion rather think of every little think what i did. We were in brick 9 countries until 2007. Rest of your points are also answerd in my post in either ways

---------- Post added at 03:39 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:39 AM ----------

Dear moha199, please read these reports from BBC (Urdu) to better know the effects of Musharraf's economic policies.

I think it is what we were told trickle down effect.

The first report is about ever expanding sex market in Pakistan because of poverty (would you like Musharraf to invest some money in social reform?)

?BBC Urdu? - ????????? - ???? ????? ?? ???????

I don't know what Musharraf would have said about it. Some thing, supposedly, like "these women are doing this to get US/Canadian visa".

Here is the other one. This is about ever expanding number of drinkers because of prevailing socio-economic situation of this country, the foundations of what were laid by Musharraf.

I think this is what we were told soft image of Pakistan.

?BBC Urdu? - ????????? - ?????? ??? ?? ???? ?????

Read my upper post ^^^^^^

 

[moha199]

It is called Musharraf ki yaad aaee Musharraf k JANE k baad.

Pakistan is missing Musharraf so much these days that a summon has to be issued through SC to see him back.

that was good one i can't stop lmao