Musharraf, The Only Hope for Pakistan

[Awesome]

No I see that, my question is will they position Musharraf as the PM in that coalition?

I see him being the best person, but will the likes of the Chaudary's et al provide him with that backing?

If they do then that provides a totally different complexion, and allows him to succeed.

Oh good question, I forgot to mention that the Army's backing would be behind Musharraf, their guy. Pir Pagara's inclusion in this APML signfies to this fact that this APML would be army friendly.

Its the perfect situation for the army. Their control, democracy is not subverted, international and national legitimacy, if anything goes wrong, Musharraf ganda hoga not them.

 

[smali183]

'Musalman' Please Ignore the Below Post. Probably All Lies.

YouTube - Pakistan Economy 1999 - 2007

Musharraf Era performance: Pakistan Flourishes Musharraf Supporters

No Mushraf, No Nawaz, No Zaradri, No Altaf, NO ONE...

We need new people. people lke on PDF, well educated people !!!

ALLAH (SWT) Pakistan Per reham karain pata nahi ya mulak kis taraf jaraha hai
Ya khas ALLAH (SWT) ka karam hai keh ya mulak abbi tak bacha hua hai
Jistarah Musharaf,Zardari,Nawaz ,Altaf,chudehry , wali khan, and All the Pervious and currant MNA and MPAs na kaya hai pata nahi kiyna dam hai is mulk may .
President our PM housese ka aak aak din ka kharach dako.
Humay kistra ka leader chahyai?
Pakistan ko aisa leader chahiey Jo ,luch or dinner kartay waqat ye soche keh may wohi chez kawnga keh jo is mulak ka ghareeb tareen banday ko muaser ho,
Jo apni guards ko dekay shochay es mulak ka ghareeb tareen tabqa kitany hifazat may hai,
Jo ye sochay keh jo be zulam hojay to us tak us mazloom ka sath rahoon ga jab tak insaf na hojaye our jab koi mamuli ghalat kam may involve payain to saza k lia khoshi say tayar hojay saza ltay waqat saray mulk may media per online nashar karay ta keh loog ibrat lay keh jis mulak ka leader ka sath asa hoskta hai to our koi………….

In short humay hazarat Umer farooq (RA) jisa leader chahey
ALLAH (ATA) Humay ATAfarmyain….Ameen

 

[Fasih Khan]

ALLAH (SWT) Pakistan Per reham karain pata nahi ya mulak kis taraf jaraha hai
Ya khas ALLAH (SWT) ka karam hai keh ya mulak abbi tak bacha hua hai
Jistarah Musharaf,Zardari,Nawaz ,Altaf,chudehry , wali khan, and All the Pervious and currant MNA and MPAs na kaya hai pata nahi kiyna dam hai is mulk may .
President our PM housese ka aak aak din ka kharach dako.
Humay kistra ka leader chahyai?
Pakistan ko aisa leader chahiey Jo ,luch or dinner kartay waqat ye soche keh may wohi chez kawnga keh jo is mulak ka ghareeb tareen banday ko muaser ho,
Jo apni guards ko dekay shochay es mulak ka ghareeb tareen tabqa kitany hifazat may hai,
Jo ye sochay keh jo be zulam hojay to us tak us mazloom ka sath rahoon ga jab tak insaf na hojaye our jab koi mamuli ghalat kam may involve payain to saza k lia khoshi say tayar hojay saza ltay waqat saray mulk may media per online nashar karay ta keh loog ibrat lay keh jis mulak ka leader ka sath asa hoskta hai to our koi………….

In short humay hazarat Umer farooq (RA) jisa leader chahey
ALLAH (ATA) Humay ATAfarmyain….Ameen

Khuda Karae Apki Dua Qabool Ho. Ameen. Tab tak andhoon main kana raja pae Iktafa kerna seekheae.

 

[smali183]

Khuda Karae Apki Dua Qabool Ho. Ameen. Tab tak andhoon main kana raja pae Iktafa kerna seekheae.

Yes, You are right aghar Musharaf saf hai our apni ghaltiu ka tuba our ainda na karnay toba kia hai our apnay app ko ADALAT may safe kar dain to hamay qabool hai.
Lakin maray experience ka mutabiq hum sab ko pichla ( Prviouse) Govt mujooda (Present) govt sa behtar lagnay lagta hai haqeeqat donoo zalim.chore,corrupt hotay hain. Haqeeqat mojooda halat ko dekhe pechlay walay halat bool jatay hain our per kehtay hain Musharaf is the only hope for Pakistan.
Mujay yaqeen hai agar musharaf usi tarah (Chodhery brothers,shekh rasheed,ameer muqam etc) ka hukumat may aya to 2 or 3 sal bad app kahain gay keh Zardari is the only hope for Pakistan.

 

[pak-marine]

Mush's policies were the best , its correct under the circumstances he is the only hope who can lead the nation .. but will he be as effective as he was when in army !?

 

[SandsofTime]

The merger of all the PMLs and naming them as APML is significant. Between themselves, they will secure a lot of seats and if supported by MQM and others, they will end up with the majority to name Musharraf as the PM.

It's like how did Zardari become the President? People voted for PPP in sympathy of Benazir, but the consequence was Zardari securing his power.

So Musharraf coming to power may not result from just the people wanting him to come in. His allies will carry him forward.

So do you see any chance of IK getting in through a similar backdoor. As it stands PTI is not organized on grassroots level. Even if people wanted to vote, there may not be a PTI candidate standing up. So IKs shot is pretty limited as well, unless he reaches some understanding with the other power centers. Is he likely to do so? I don't think so. IK has a somewhat stubborn temperament and anything that deviates from his ideals doesn't cut it from him. Modern politics is about compromise and doing best from given situation. Don't expect another Jinnah. Those times were different and today anyone of Jinnah's caliber is unlikely to rise through the present mess.

 

[SandsofTime]

No Mushraf, No Nawaz, No Zaradri, No Altaf, NO ONE...

We need new people. people lke on PDF, well educated people !!!

Not to offend any PDFers but if you notice many people here are currently in foreign countries. Now only if elections could be outsourced

 

[DGMO]

So do you see any chance of IK getting in through a similar backdoor. As it stands PTI is not organized on grassroots level. Even if people wanted to vote, there may not be a PTI candidate standing up. So IKs shot is pretty limited as well, unless he reaches some understanding with the other power centers. Is he likely to do so? I don't think so. IK has a somewhat stubborn temperament and anything that deviates from his ideals doesn't cut it from him. Modern politics is about compromise and doing best from given situation. Don't expect another Jinnah. Those times were different and today anyone of Jinnah's caliber is unlikely to rise through the present mess.

That's the only way IK will come to power. If a man who has built cancer hospitals, risked detention, built universities, is free from corruption, is the nations most iconic and respected sportsman, speaks sense most of the time can't make an impact on the political scene through the PTI, then he needs to change tack.

He has his workers, they've been campaigning solid for many years, but still no strong representation in Parliament, or across provinces.

Musharraf offered him the Premiership and he turned it down, that was out of a principal, but a little naive.

His best chance is exactly the only chance open for Musharraf - ride the wave with larger parties, and hope for nomination as leader of the coalition and therefore possible PM.

 

[forcetrip]

Nothing will be effectively cleaned till rule of law is imposed with public trials of all previous and present traitors. Every citizen in this country is as guilty and responsible for its present state so how can anyone believe that there might be a clean and civilized politician in our midst? It is unnessesary to discuss if Musharaff can deliver without the army besides him. He will end up being just another politician in our Pak Saar Zameen.

 

[Fasih Khan]

Pervez Musharraf to launch new Pakistan political party

Pervez Musharraf says he hopes "to bring about a new political culture" in Pakistan

Former Pakistan military ruler Pervez Musharraf is to launch his new political party on Friday.

Several of his associates have arrived in London where the All Pakistan Muslim League will be unveiled, reports say.

The former president told the BBC that the government in Pakistan was dysfunctional and the economy and the country were failing.

Correspondents say there is no real likelihood of him returning to the country in the near future.

Mr Musharraf also appears to lack the kind of political organisation that could win him an election in Pakistan, they say.

"When there is a dysfunctional government and the nation is going down, its economy is going down, there is a clamour, there is a pressure on the military by the people," Mr Musharraf told the BBC's Today programme.

"There is a sense of despondency spreading in Pakistan and the place that they go to is the military. There is nobody else people can go to," he said.

Mr Musharraf said he was launching the party in London because he risked assassination if he returned to Pakistan. He has survived a number of plots in the past.

Last month, he said he would return to Pakistan for the next national elections, scheduled for 2013.

The former president went into exile in 2008 after his allies lost elections.

Mr Musharraf, who now lives in London, announced earlier this year he would set up the All Pakistan Muslim League to address "the crises facing Pakistan", and the party began a public recruitment campaign.

By returning to politics in Pakistan, he says he hopes to bring about a new political culture to the country.

There are legal cases pending against Mr Musharraf back home and if he does go back he will have to face them.

Mr Musharraf says the cases are politically motivated.

Last month, he told the BBC he would be standing for a seat in the 2013 parliamentary elections.

From there he said he hoped to become either prime minister or president.

He seized power in 1999 when, as chief of Pakistan's army, he ousted elected Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif in a coup.

Analysis

Syed Shoaib Hasan BBC News, Karachi

Despite what he and his allies say, Pervez Musharraf remains one of the most unpopular people in Pakistan and is unlikely to be going home any time soon.

He is blamed by the masses for most of the country's problems and is top of the hit list of most jihadi groups. Many of his former enemies are now in powerful positions.

That is not to say the former military ruler does not have some supporters but they are primarily among the affluent and Westernised urban elite - a miniscule constituency that almost never votes in general elections.

He also still has admirers in the military-civilian establishment that effectively runs Pakistan.

But they only back candidates with at least half a chance - at the moment, Mr Musharraf has none and needs a miracle to have any hope of changing Pakistan's political landscape.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-11450507

 

[Ahmad]

Despite what he and his allies say, Pervez Musharraf remains one of the most unpopular people in Pakistan and is unlikely to be going home any time soon.

what is the reason he is in self exile

 

[Fasih Khan]

That is not to say the former military ruler does not have some supporters but they are primarily among the affluent and Westernised urban elite - a miniscule constituency that almost never votes in general elections.

Mr. Shoaib Hassan ... In describing your half truth, you have confessed that his supporters are the Educated Class among ''Masses'', and as for ''Some Supporters'' I'd say, all over the Internet which is being used by the educated class again, and the brainy elements of our society is all for Musharraf. Put my fingers cross none of us would sit home on Election day. So I have the great hopes for him ruling our nation. Insha' Allah.

 

[Fasih Khan]

Ahmad, Basically as the report tells too, His life is in danger in the hands of Taliban Terrorists and even his political foes such as Nawaz Sharif & Co are bunch of thugs too, you never know they trying harm him If he's got no standing. Insha' Allah God Almighty would pave the ways for him.

 

[Rafael]

That's the only way IK will come to power. If a man who has built cancer hospitals, risked detention, built universities, is free from corruption, is the nations most iconic and respected sportsman, speaks sense most of the time can't make an impact on the political scene through the PTI, then he needs to change tack.

He has his workers, they've been campaigning solid for many years, but still no strong representation in Parliament, or across provinces.

Musharraf offered him the Premiership and he turned it down, that was out of a principal, but a little naive.

His best chance is exactly the only chance open for Musharraf - ride the wave with larger parties, and hope for nomination as leader of the coalition and therefore possible PM.

I would wait for elections before concluding his failures as a politician. See last time his party contested was back in 2002, you do not expect an 8 year old political party to make heavy strides in such a short period of time and specially in a country like Pakistan. In last general elections, his party boycotted on a principle stand (rightly or wrongly is not a question here). So it would be very interesting to see how his party performs in elections keeping in mind that both the giants of pakistani politics i.e PML and PPP have lost their support to an extent!


P.S At the time of elections back in 2008, i too like many others thought that he missed a trick by boycotting the polls but now i realize that he was right and we would have been better off if we had sorted out NRO and judicial issues before going into polls.

 

[Ahmad]

Ahmad, Basically as the report tells too, His life is in danger in the hands of Taliban Terrorists and even his political foes such as Nawaz Sharif & Co are bunch of thugs too, you never know they trying harm him If he's got no standing. Insha' Allah God Almighty would pave the ways for him.

Taliban? that should be not a nice excuse and even his opponets taking on him if her returns.