Musharraf slams India's role in terrorism in Pakistan

[blueoval79]

well lets just asume india is doing nothing to promote or spread tererrorism in tible areas/northern areas, the why india has too many conculates in afghanistan
this is a link from indian website
Indian Embassy Consulates Worldwide
even british and ameriacan has one counslate each but indian have more than five ????? something is fishing my friend.

the other reason for pointing fingers on india, most of those conslates are in the cities which are close to pakistan borders

Pakitani gov do not react as they should because of the only one reason. they dont want to start a media war with india right now as the are busy cleaning the mess.

Neither Britain nor America is involved in large scale projects for building infrastructure in Afghanistan...and my friend large scale infrastructure project skilled manpower and that has to be imported from India for now .....so this increases the influx of immigrants so you need more consulates ........look out for the kind of projects India is involved in and match it with the location of the consulates ...you will get your answer.....

 

[dherky]

thats very funy..
so you mean, india need one conslate each of construction in each city
the only investment india has done so far is builing of a road and afghan parliment.
so as per your theory, as indian built parliment they need ambasy in kabul, you built road on wetern afghanistan so you need one coslate there.

but there is no development work going on in jalalabad and kandhar, the two india conslate in these cities,are les than 34/40 km from pakistani borders respectively

so, you cant cover everything up

 

[le_souriceau]

Complete victory over the damned talibs will take years and, unfortunately, many more human lives.

But if there is a force that can win this battle - it is the army of Pakistan. Neither yankees nor their cowardly allies not make anything. Like and the afghans themselves.

 

[opinion786]

Complete interview:

Musharraf interviewed by SPIEGEL Our leader – Musharraf

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

........look out for the kind of projects India is involved in and match it with the location of the consulates ...you will get your answer.....

Can you provide that information?

 

[pakomar]

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Well, if you are so hell bent upon living in your own Spanish castle, theres nothing much that I can say. Please stop viewing Taliban in isolation. Pakistan is currently the biggest source of Islamic terrorism in the region. Taliban happens to be the major player in this whole islamic fundamentalist set up. So a strong Taliban translates into strengthening of this fundamentalism which in turn means strengthening of terrorist groups like like Let, Al qaida, Jaish, Hizbul etc. Why would India ever want that???
Secondly, an uglier scenario for us would be Taliban or some elements of Taliban getting their hands on some of your nuclear weapons. You can well imagine who will be the first target in such scenario.

So I repeat, TALIBAN IS A BIG THREAT TO INDIA AND IT DOESNT MAKE ANY SENSE WHATSOEVER FOR INDIA TO SUPPORT THEM.



THIS is frustrating
You did not even understand my comment and you are just going on shooting off your hips
Do me a favour....go in a room where theres no one and then read that post of mine again, very slowly and loudly. If you still dont understand then ask one of your cleverer friends to translate it for you.
Good luck mate!

Nothing was going on before 9/11 but when US attack on Afghanistan Pakistan become terrorism spot. Well it’s not me its you who needs to read history. During Russia afghan war the same fighter in Afghanistan was fighting for the same cause as today which is to have there own land back from invaders. But now Taliban are called terrorist. Now US is thinking put North Korea in terrorist list just because they are testing missiles. Same case here all the instability in Pakistan is for its nukes. And believe me RAW is involve and will be there because Pakistan is still standing. RAW will do anything to damage Pakistan.
See you need to read my post in a quite room loudly. The Taliban objective is to fight against US and get their land back. Taliban have no objective in Pakistan.

 

[blueoval79]

Can you provide that information?

Please go to these links and read the complete articles.....

India's role in Afghanistan is constructive: US report- Hindustan Times

India's role in Afghanistan constructive: US | Pakistan | News | Newspaper | Daily | English | Online

U.S. Lauds India's "Constructive Role" In Afghanistan - Forex TV

http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/jan/31inter.htm


I have provided multiple links so that you don't complain of biased media reports....




Since 2001, India has offered $750 million for Afghanistan's reconstruction, making it the largest regional donor to the country. In August 2008, India pledged an additional $450 million. By helping rebuild a new Afghanistan, India strives for greater regional stability. There are currently about four thousand Indian workers and security personnel working on different relief and reconstruction projects in Afghanistan. Since 2006, following increased incidents of kidnappings and attacks, India has sent the country's mountain-trained paramilitary force tasked with guarding its border with China, to guard its workers; there are about five hundred police deployed in Afghanistan currently. India is involved in a wide array of development projects in Afghanistan; it is building several key roads, including the Zaranj-Delaram highway in southwest Afghanistan near the Iranian border; it helped Kabul build its new parliament building; it trained Afghan police officers, diplomats and civil servants; and it has provided support in the areas of health, education, transportation, power, and telecommunications.

 

[third eye]

Mush is the LAST man who can complain.

He did his best to undo India & when he couldn't , he turned into a saint.

.." a reformed convict makes the best preacher"..

 

[waraich66]

And what about Musharraf's role in terrorism in India??Pakistan army had direct connections with Taliban and Al-Qaeda when he was ruling Pakistan.He openly supported local terror groups to operate against India.

Musharraf was a General in disguise.He had and still has a mindset of a terrorist.It would be better off if he stops making stupid remarks about India.

Nonsense , Can you provide any link or its just your dream.

 

[rubyjackass]

Now the advice you gave me not to lesion to Pakistan political leaders the same advice is for you to not to believe what Indian government said. We had an example in 1971 when India interferes in Pakistan affairs and Indian raw continue doing that.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-history/23930-south-asia-crisis-1971-a.html#post334626

Read some history. Explains when India started training Mukti bahini.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Mush is the LAST man who can complain.

He did his best to undo India & when he couldn't , he turned into a saint.

.." a reformed convict makes the best preacher"..

I don't see how that is correct - he did nothing to 'undo India'. His foray in Kargil can be compared to India's foray into Siachen.

Beyond that it was under his watch that the militant groups fighting Indian occupation in Kashmir were reigned in and infiltration dropped significantly and the insurgency was almost eliminated - a fact validated by both Indian and international observers.

It was also under his watch that the composite dialog almost resulted in a breakthrough on several contentious issues.

So no, he has done nothing to 'undo India', if anything he has shown the greatest degree of flexibility on Pakistan's position on Kashmir, and tangibly undertaken initiatives to reduce tensions between the two nations.

So when he accuses India of complicity with the terrorist groups operating in Pakistan, it is worth a listen.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-history/23930-south-asia-crisis-1971-a.html#post334626

Read some history. Explains when India started training Mukti bahini.

India started destabilizing East Pakistan long before 1971, and long before the refugee crises expanded into the scale that it did - that is borne out by Manekshaw's comments as well as Raina's book on RAW activities in East Pakistan in the sixties.

 

[Vassnti]

India started destabilizing East Pakistan long before 1971, and long before the refugee crises expanded into the scale that it did - that is borne out by Manekshaw's comments as well as Raina's book on RAW activities in East Pakistan in the sixties.

How far back do you go, so RAW was up to some thing 50 years ago? Do you blame the current problems on the east India company or perhaps the Greeks for fermenting trouble invading Taxila, every time some thing happens there seems to be some one wants to blame India.
You have a cow in the living room yet you still want to blame the broken vase on your sister’s nephew that visited two years ago.
The taliban says it plans to bomb cities, claims the "credit" for the bombings and threatens more yet its some how india's fault.
Why would the taliban want anything to do with India after all the help india gave to the northern alliance?

 

[third eye]

I don't see how that is correct - he did nothing to 'undo India'. His foray in Kargil can be compared to India's foray into Siachen.

Beyond that it was under his watch that the militant groups fighting Indian occupation in Kashmir were reigned in and infiltration dropped significantly and the insurgency was almost eliminated - a fact validated by both Indian and international observers.

It was also under his watch that the composite dialog almost resulted in a breakthrough on several contentious issues.

So no, he has done nothing to 'undo India', if anything he has shown the greatest degree of flexibility on Pakistan's position on Kashmir, and tangibly undertaken initiatives to reduce tensions between the two nations.
So when he accuses India of complicity with the terrorist groups operating in Pakistan, it is worth a listen.

The highlighted parts happened only when all else failed & Uncle Sam called.." reformed convict.."

The change of heart happened for two reasons. One, as mentioned that his guile misfired & two, US ( upon whom his personal survival hinged besides that of Pk) saw thru the deciet he played in Af/ AQ & the region and complelled him to change his spots.

What he says is worth a listen but with a hand ful of salt. No one can deny that what afflicts Pk is self inflicted.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

How far back do you go, so RAW was up to some thing 50 years ago? Do you blame the current problems on the east India company or perhaps the Greeks for fermenting trouble invading Taxila, every time some thing happens there seems to be some one wants to blame India.
You have a cow in the living room yet you still want to blame the broken vase on your sister’s nephew that visited two years ago.
The taliban says it plans to bomb cities, claims the "credit" for the bombings and threatens more yet its some how india's fault.
Why would the taliban want anything to do with India after all the help india gave to the northern alliance?

Don't be absurd - You are using a strawman to obfuscate the fact that India has been involved in multiple instances of support for terrorists and proxies against Pakistan, and others.

RAW involvement in East Pakistan occurred less than fifty years ago, and is hardly ancient history. 15 years after that you had India violating the Simla agreement and occupying Siachen unprovoked. In the nineties you had India supporting genocidal war lords and criminals in the form of the Northern Alliance against the Pakistan supported Taliban. And lets not forget that India created the LTTE against the Sri Lankan government.

All of this is recent history, not ancient, and illustrates the fact that India has no qualms about supporting proxies and covertly destabilizing other nations, despite pretending that its shite doesn't stink.