"Musharraf is a Liar": Husain Haqqani to Barkha Dutt

[Reichsmarschall]

just need to shove a polonium injection up his ***

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Saddam famously remarked about Americans that they treat poorer nations as prostitutes loving when needed and leaving them when wanted.

In 1980's US had a willing ally in Pakistan when Russia invaded Afghanistan. Pakistan went along because of its shared interest to stop Russia's imperialistic adventures in south asia. After they succeeded in their mission, US abandoned Pakistan. Pakistan had to face the fallout from general chaos that ensued from talibanization along its borders and in Afghanistan. Al-qaeda found safe haven in Afghanistan. There was gun culture, drugs and radicalization from extremist groups.

After 9/11 the focus shifted to war on terror and to Pakistan-Afghanistan border. Pakistan was not a willing ally but they went along not to antagonize a superpower. Pakistan is experiencing its fallout with US second time around.

 

[my2cents]

Saddam famously remarked about Americans that they treat poorer nations as prostitutes loving when needed and leaving them when wanted.

Being an ally with Pakistan, US found great friend in its war against USSR in the 1980s. There was meeting of minds but the war on terrorism was altogether a difficult decision for Pakistan.
Saddam made many blunders and was punished for his intransigence. I would not equate Pakistan doing the same. Pakistan actually played it's cards well. It was more of an unequal relationship.

 

[xyxmt]

Jist of what he is saying is that if US drops Pakistan has an ally, then all bets are off. If US has no shared interests in Pakistan then all constraints are removed and US can engage a hostile pursuit against terrorist heavens in Pakistan. He does present a likely scenario that can emerge from falling off from good graces of a superpower.

Yes US can do that, we are polishing our bangles....super power was before she came to graveyards....mind you this graveyards is tribal areas not proper Afghanistan.

 

[my2cents]

Yes US can do that, we are polishing our bangles....super power was before she came to graveyards....mind you this graveyards is tribal areas not proper Afghanistan.

This is an assymtric warfare that is done using intelligence on ground for possible terrorist bases and targeted using drones. Question is are you willing to sit back and watch US pounding those targets? Has Pakistan lost its writ in these areas? Being an ally you were informed before. But now with US unshakled all options are available for them to contain the menace of terrorism emanating from these areas. It is not given that they will opt for all out offensive strikes but it is a possibility.Trump mentioned that he is not abandoning Afghanistan and will not recall the troops. How are you going forward with US in this charged atmosphere? These are all relevant questions that you have to deal with moving forward.
I have always found his views unpalatable to some but they are not antithetical to your country's best interest.

 

[El Sidd]

Next question

Two plus two is ????

 

[Arsalan 345]

Hussain haqqani,the story of a dog from India.lol

 

[xyxmt]

This is an assymtric warfare that is done using intelligence on ground for possible terrorist bases and targeted using drones. Question is are you willing to sit back and watch US pounding those targets? Has Pakistan lost its writ in these areas? Being an ally you were informed before. But now with US unshakled all options are available for them to contain the menace of terrorism emanating from these areas. It is not given that they will opt for all out offensive strikes but it is a possibility.Trump mentioned that he is not abandoning Afghanistan and will not recall the troops. How are you going forward with US in this charged atmosphere? These are all relevant questions that you have to deal with moving forward.
I have always found his views unpalatable to some but they are not antithetical to your country's best interest.

LOL get real, this world doesnt run according to Indian dreams

 

[my2cents]

LOL get real, this world doesnt run according to Indian dreams

When did I mention it does on Indian dreams?

US doesn't dictate us like they do to your country because of our size and our shared interests. They only listen to us if it suits their nerrative.
That is the difference you have to understand.

 

[Fledgingwings]

Liar is calling a Liar,Liar !

 

[xyxmt]

When did I mention it does on Indian dreams?

US doesn't dictate us like they do to your country because of our size and our shared interests. They only listen to us if it suits their nerrative.
That is the difference you have to understand.

US cannot dictate Pakistan, they took our friendship as master slave relationship. Now the friendship is no more neither is favors. As soon Pakistan/US interest collided and Pakistan started to look after her interest US Started asking to do things in public only because they thought private requests are being shrugged off by Pakistan, and this will continue until they realize new ground realities...otherwise US cannot dictate Pakistan for mere 500 million LOL
They got this thing totally wrong. As far as India is concerned they were never any close relationship but once US "thinks" India in their control they will start this with India too when things dont go their way. I am sure you heard Trump asking what India should do in Afghanistan that was the first dictate...you do so much business with US you owe them help in Afghanistan, that was the first dictate, more to come

 

[Taimoor Khan]

https://www.dawn.com/news/1386648/s...case-hearing-issues-notice-to-hussain-haqqani

SC forms bench to resume memogate case hearing, issues notice to Hussain Haqqani


Munnay ke shamat anay Wali hai. Bhahot chahak raha hai yeh .

 

[my2cents]

US cannot dictate Pakistan, they took our friendship as master slave relationship. Now the friendship is no more neither is favors. As soon Pakistan/US interest collided and Pakistan started to look after her interest US Started asking to do things in public only because they thought private requests are being shrugged off by Pakistan, and this will continue until they realize new ground realities...otherwise US cannot dictate Pakistan for mere 500 million LOL
They got this thing totally wrong. As far as India is concerned they were never any close relationship but once US "thinks" India in their control they will start this with India too when things dont go their way. I am sure you heard Trump asking what India should do in Afghanistan that was the first dictate...you do so much business with US you owe them help in Afghanistan, that was the first dictate, more to come

LOL. US wanted us to be part of Nato forces in Afghanistan. But we refused. Investing in worn torn Afghanistan was Indian govt. decision not some thing dictated by US. You know that we had historic trade ties with Afghanistan and we wanted to revive it. What best way to show that than to be part of reconstruction efforts and win over hearts and minds of people who are shaping their country. It has nothing to do with US diktats.

Are we an ally of US?? Not yet in my opinion. But we do listen to US if it fits our national interests. We do share a lot in common, and with a large diaspora which is active in US, we work on many aspects of our shared interests like human rights, security, defence, intellectual capital and commerce.

 

[xyxmt]

LOL. US wanted us to be part of Nato forces in Afghanistan. But we refused. Investing in worn torn Afghanistan was Indian govt. decision not some thing dictated by US. You know that we had historic trade ties with Afghanistan and we wanted to revive it. What best way to show that than to be part of reconstruction efforts and win over hearts and minds of people who are shaping their country. It has nothing to do with US diktats.

Are we an ally of US?? Not yet in my opinion. But we do listen to US if it fits our national interests. We do share a lot in common, and with a large diaspora which is active in US, we work on many aspects of our shared interests like human rights, security, defence, intellectual capital and commerce.

US is dictating Pakistan to take action against Hiqanis for last 15 years....we do listen to US if it fits our agenda
Release some air from your chest please, every country does what is in their interest, sometime you give up some interests to take more...so you are not just a super power every country is a super power in their own interest.

 

[Solomon2]

Husain Haqqani withdraws counsel, criticises top court over Memogate
By Our Correspondent
Published: February 7, 2018

Former ambassador to US Husain Haqqani. PHOTO: FILE

KARACHI : Husain Haqqani, former ambassador to the United States, has instructed his advocate on record and counsel to withdraw from further Supreme Court proceedings in the Memogate case, saying “these have no relevance in the eyes of the world at a time when the standing of Pakistan’s politicised judiciary is at its lowest”.

Haqqani said he had “no expectation of justice or fairplay from the Pakistani establishment, of which the Supreme Court is an integral part” and described renewal of the Memogate case after a hiatus of six tears as “an attempt to revive propaganda against me in anticipation of my forthcoming book ‘Reimagining Pakistan”.

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“For over six years, no criminal charges have been filed or trial initiated against me because I committed no crime,” the former envoy declared, adding, “Indeed, the Supreme Court has yet to say what if any crime was committed and why it continues to act as court of first instance instead of serving as court of final appeal.”

According to Haqqani, “The Supreme Court shelved the original proceedings because of the embarrassing lacunae in its judgment. These include: such as appointing an Inquiry Commission even though the Inquiry Commission Act 1956 authorizes the executive, not the judiciary, to appoint such commissions; appointing High Court judges to the Commission even though the law expressly states that High Court judges cannot comprise such a Commission; Giving directions to the High Court, which the Supreme Court cannot do under the Constitution; and appointing the Commission under Order XXXVI of the Supreme Court Rules which had been repealed in 2003.”

The ex-ambassador insisted that the case had “been resuscitated to generate headlines in the Pakistani media just as the original case was filed for media noise. It does not have any legal foundation as the International Commission of Jurists (ICJ) and many others pointed out when it was initiated.”

“These politically motivated proceedings will not detract me from my writing and speaking out for much needed reforms of Pakistan’s foreign and domestic policies,” he added.

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He pointed out that “Many Pakistanis and the rest of the world already know that I have been targeted for pointing out the incongruence in the world’s sixth largest nuclear weapons power, Pakistan, being home to one of the world’s largest out-of-school population and lagging behind in almost all human development indicators.”

The former diplomat said the Pakistani court system had “lost its credibility” and that the rest of the world holds Pakistan’s judges “in low esteem”.

“Whatever the court says or does will have no effect outside the propaganda bubble that has been created inside Pakistan,” Haqqani concluded, suggesting that “the judges should clear the backlog of hundreds of thousands pending cases and dispense justice to hapless Pakistanis according to the law and the constitution” instead of wasting time on Memogate again.