Musharraf Exposed as part of Israeli establishment!

[RayKalm]

Relations with Israel could help Pakistan, says former president Musharraf - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

Remember this interview?

Now, think about this, Musharraf is the very first Pakistani politician who offered to make ties with Israel if he comes into office.

Okay, now listen to this closely. We as Pakistanis should oppose ties with Israel knowing that all they have done against us;

1.) Try taking out our nukes with help of India in 1998 tests.
2.) American media propaganda, since they control the media there.
3.) Jewish agents posing as CIA agents caught in our drone base.
4.) Using Pakistani terrorists to target Iranian intentions.
5.) Always supports India over Pakistan.
6.) Link to Mumbai attacks in India.
7.) Palestinian and human rights Issues.

Okay, now stay with me, listen closely to this. Even if you don't agree with the above points, while at least 4-5 of them have been proven true, point number two is the most valid.

2.) American media propaganda, since they control the media there.

The Jews control the American media, we know this very well. Now stay with me, I'm getting to my point. Why would Musharraf, all of a sudden, want ties with Israel?

Listen to 0:35 to 1:00 VERY VERY CLOSEY OF THIS VIDEO

Pervez Musharraf's views for Israel - YouTube

"If they do activities against us, and Israel/the Jewish community is an influential community in media, banking, finance, so when we are against them they will be against us in the world, so why are we doing this, so I took the middle path".

Now, you're still possibly wondering where I'm getting at. READ THOSE BOLD WORDS CAREFULLY. Musharraf knows that Israel controls the media and influences the west, he knows that they have the biggest lobbies there!

Another hint at this is listen closely; January, 6th was when that Musharraf interview was published, and the actual interview took at least a minimum of a 2 days before.

Right after that interview, the Israeli media phrased Musharraf in a rhetoric dialect. For example in January 5th this article was published denouncing Imran Khan as an estamblishment

Pakistan's Slow-Motion Coup - By C. Christine Fair | Foreign Policy

A quote from this article:

But the Army's luck is changing along with that of Imran Khan, whose political fortunes have shifted in recent months.

This quote derails Imran Khan, now read the following quote.

The current chief justice, Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry, has long loathed Zardari because the latter opposed his reinstatement following his dismissal by then President Musharraf.

This quote praises Musharraf!

Now, think about it, right after a day of the interview with the Israeli, and Musharraf's pro Israeli stances, Imran Khan is derailed to the teeth, while Musharraf is praised.

It is not Imran Khan who is appointed by the establishment, it is Musharraf who is taking advantage of the Israeli-controlled American establishment to ounced him back to power!

For all you people talking negatively about Khan, you should realize that would a leader who wants power ever talk negatively about the Israeli influence in the world like this?

Imran Khan on accepting Israel as a State (Musharaf's statement) - YouTube

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[jayron]

Relations with Israel could help Pakistan, says former president Musharraf - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

Remember this interview?
1.) Try taking out our nukes with help of India in 1998 tests.
2.) American media propaganda, since they control the media there.
3.) Jewish agents posing as CIA agents caught in our drone base.
4.) Using Pakistani terrorists to target Iranian intentions.
5.) Always supports India over Pakistan.
6.) Link to Mumbai attacks in India.
7.) Palestinian and human rights Issues.

Are you for real? Terrorists from your country massacred innocent Israelis in Mumbai. How can that ever be made a fault of Israel?

 

[RayKalm]

Are you for real? Terrorists from your country massacred innocent Israelis in Mumbai. How can that ever be made a fault of Israel?

You probably didn't read what I said afterwards.

Okay, now stay with me, listen closely to this. Even if you don't agree with the above points, while at least 4-5 of them have been proven true, point number two is the most valid.

 

[SEAL]

Whatever i am afraid he will give all the details about our nukes and security system to enemies so we better eliminate this bastard and its our fault we support every wardi wala, hussain haqqani is much better then these idiots.

 

[Husnainshah]

So, it's okay for us to preserve ties with India, with whom we've gone on multiple wars, but not with Israel?
Although, I despise Musharraf for his violation of Article 6 of the constitution, but I strong endorse his stance over Israel.

 

[RayKalm]

So, it's okay for us to preserve ties with India, with whom we've gone on multiple wars, but not with Israel?
Although, I despise Musharraf for his violation of Article 6 of the constitution, but I strong endorse his stance over Israel.

Are you not understanding? Ties with Israel is besides the point of this thread, the point is Musharraf using Israel to get back to power - that is a criminal.

And why do you support ties with a country who did all that I've stated to us?

 

[RayKalm]

Musharaf is a part of Game which started from 9.11., I remember very good when he tried once to allow Israeli PM broadcast live speech to people of Pakistan on national TV pakistan.

People like Musharaf face the fate like he is experiencing in London.

Imran Khan has been identified by Pakistanis as only and the only savior and leader of Pakistan.

 

[z9-ec]

Wow, this is the most ridiculous thread.

Musharraf has repeatedly said relations with Israel are dependent on progress made with Palestinians. There is no point in enmity with a country that has never attacked or killed a Pakistani citizen. I for one have no issues with having diplomatic ties with Israel.

We need friends NOT enemies. We should not poke our way into other conflicts. What he said was, we should seek neutrality and not go over board to create another enemy in this world.

 

[RayKalm]

Wow, this is the most ridiculous thread.

Musharraf has repeatedly said relations with Israel are dependent on progress made with Palestinians. There is no point in enmity with a country that has never attacked or killed a Pakistani citizen. I for one have no issues with having diplomatic ties with Israel.

We need friends NOT enemies. We should not poke our way into other conflicts. What he said was, we should seek neutrality and not go over board to create another enemy in this world.

How do you explain 1998? How do you explain Jewish agents in Drone base? Or is our army just dumb to state that?

How do you explain Israeli weapons found in our country? Your pro Musharraf stance is blinding you into hating Pakistan for his intentions.

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Pakistan recovers Israel-made weapons - Press TV News - YouTube

 

[z9-ec]

Raykalm, your logic is flawed to the core.

What about India? hasn't your PTI and Imran Khan said we need better relations with India? and put Kashmir aside? the country that we've had 3 wars with, created Bangladesh and killed Pakistanis. Why not simply shut your high commission there and save some money.


You see my point? Israel never attacked you. They never killed any Pakistani.

 

[Husnainshah]

Are you not understanding? Ties with Israel is besides the point of this thread, the point is Musharraf using Israel to get back to power - that is a criminal.

And why do you support ties with a country who did all that I've stated to us?

Now, that i wouldn't know if Musharraf's using Israel to get back into power or merely stating his opinion of Israel. And even if he's using Israel to get back into power, or at least in Pakistan, what's wrong with it? Who doesn't do it? National Reconciliation Ordinance, rings a bell?

As for why do I support ties with such a country, you see, when negotiating on National level, you only look up for your National interest. If ties with Israel serve the National interest of Pakistan, then I could care less what they've or haven't done to us in past. We don't have too good of a history with India and America too, do we?

 

[RayKalm]

Raykalm, you're logic is flawed to the core.

What about India? hasn't your PTI and Imran Khan said we need better relations with India? and put Kashmir aside? the country that we've had 3 wars with, created Bangladesh and killed Pakistanis. Why not simply shut your high commission there and save some money.


You see my point? Israel never attacked you. They never killed any Pakistani.

I think you're not getting the point.

India is another story, while India has been at war with us, they are our normal arch rival, so it's best we settle our disputes with them.

Israel on the other hand does whatever it can to meddle in our affairs, and you say that Israel hasn't killed any Pakistanis, we don't know that for sure. Since their agents were caught in the drone base, how do we not know how many drones they've launched? And was not preparing to attack our greatest asesst our nuclear weapons not enough for you?

 

[Omar1984]

Musharraf is pro-western and kind of a secularist. He was also anti-iran maybe that is why he wants relations with Israel. Pakistan-Iran relations was not good when he was leading Pakistan.

If Musharraf was leading Pakistan, he would help Israel fight Iran and in return get few million dollars from Israel. I know how Musharraf thinks, its all about the money for him, but he will use the money for development in Pakistan so he's not that bad.

 

[z9-ec]

I think you're not getting the point.

India is another story, while India has been at war with us, they are our normal arch rival, so it's best we settle our disputes with them.

Israel on the other hand does whatever it can to meddle in our affairs, and you say that Israel hasn't killed any Pakistanis, we don't know that for sure. Since their agents were caught in the drone base, how do we not know how many drones they've launched? And was not preparing to attack our greatest asesst our nuclear weapons not enough for you?

Caught in drone base? you do know that claim was made by a BLOG!! simply not true. Utter BS made up by some extremist dreaming of conquering the world.

Whatever you say will not change the fact that Israel has never overtly done anything against Pakistan. Infact, it was Pakistan that meddled into ME affairs.

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Musharraf is pro-western and kind of a secularist. He was also anti-iran maybe that is why he wants relations with Israel. Pakistan-Iran relations was not good when he was leading Pakistan.

Not really, he simply said we do not need to add another adversary in our growing list or perhaps create great levels of enmity against us by meddling in other affairs deliberately. Regardless, he said relationship is dependent on Palestine's future. Being neutral is the way to go.

 

[RayKalm]

The fact is you can't even prove to me how Israel hasn't meddled in our affairs. Our own army stated in 1998 they wanted to take out our nukes, and about 7 months ago Israeli weapons found in our country. There western media reporting that the Israelis are using Pakistani terrorists to target Iran.*


Pakistan recovers Israel-made weapons - Press TV News - YouTube