Mughals were Indo-Iranic not Turkic People

[Multani]

apart from western Bengal, some southern Bihar and Orissa coast, it seems Magadha was primarily a jungle empire made of jungles of Jharkhand, bundelkhand, chattisgarh, and northern Orissa. Perhaps most of the infantry was made of Adivasis.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

apart from western Bengal, some northern Bihar and Orissa coast, it seems Magadha was primarily a jungle empire made of jungles of Jharkhand, bundelkhand, chattisgarh, and northern Orissa. Perhaps most of the infantry was made of Adivasis.

No, tribals like Adivasis were hired and mentioned specifically as mercenaries. Those tribals/tribal regions had a certain autonomy(till up to the Britishers) and weren't ruled that much by empires, nor did they want to be apart of mainstream society.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Map of largest Nanda empire by Dhananada .

This is a good map. You could see where the tribal regions were. They would've had to go down the coast line to get to the south.

C, is the trade route established by the Mauryas with the Deccan conquest. They avoided going through tribal regions, thick jungle.



In modern context, you can see with the Maoist tribal struggle, is something that probably all states faced back then with the Adivasis. They were always resisting in some way.

 

[East or West India Best]

this explains the kings supposedly but what about the thousands if not millions of other mughals who cam with zahir u din babur???

Are you sure it wasn't trillions?

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Well anyways this is offtopic.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Its not off topic, Babur had only 15000 strong Army.
First Battle of Panipat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Maurya topic is.

 

[qamar1990]

Are you sure it wasn't trillions?

r u disputing what i said???

 

[East or West India Best]

r u disputing what i said???

Yea, it doesn't take more than 10,000 men to conquer India.

 

[Dubious]

Have you ever seen kids born from white and black parents? Always black dominates.

what a stupid comment....You mean skin is EVERYTHING...Damn it is even insulting to the field of genetics to discuss with you anything any further

 

[my2cents]

what a stupid comment....You mean skin is EVERYTHING...Damn it is even insulting to the field of genetics to discuss with you anything any further

Hey cool down. I am talking as a lay person. I don't understand genetics enough to comment on it.

 

[Dubious]

your math is off
humayun should be 50 percent iranian not 60
jahangir should 50 percent indic not 60
this explains the kings supposedly but what about the thousands if not millions of other mughals who cam with zahir u din babur???

Naahhh to Indians the kings - 1 man army took them

 

[Hindustani78]

sorry for weak English, English is not my First Language.

Answer to Jap @Nihonjin1051 and Turk Member @atatwolf
The Glory of the Mughal Empire | Page 31


1)Zahir-ud-din Muhammad Babur was an Uzbek Muslim who Founded Mughal Empire.
he was 100% Turkic
2)but Mother of Humayun was a IRANIAN QUEEN Maham Begam
Maham Begum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
so we can say that Humayun was atlast 60% Iranian and 40% Turkish.

3)Mother of Akbar Hamida Banu Begam, 'Maryam Makani' was also an Iranian Queen and she was born in Sindh,South Asia.
Hamida Banu Begum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
so basically, Akbar was an Iranian-Turkish Male

3)Jodha Bai, Mother of Jahangir is was 100% Rajput (Indic) Queen.
Mariam-uz-Zamani - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jahangir was "like" 60% INDIC, 30% Iranian and 10% Turkish Emperor of South Asia.

4) Mother of Shah Jahan was Again a Rajput Princess Rajkumari Shri Manavati Baiji Lall Sahiba
so, Shah Jahan was Indian-Iranian King not a Turkish king.


all i want to say is Stay in your Japan and Fake Turkish Nation, our kings have nothing common with your Bac

Babar was great grandson of Tamerlane and his mother's side was descended from the famous Genghiz Khan, came to India in 1526 to fight against Ibrahim Lodi, the last head of the Delhi Sultanate.

Babur was ruler of a kingdom centered on Kabul when he invaded India in 1526, but his original territory was the little principality of Farghana in Turkistan. A Chaghatai Turk, he claimed descent from both of the great Central Asian conquerors, Timur and, more remotely, Chingiz Khan. It was this connection with the great Mongol invader that gave the dynasty the misleading appellation of "Mughal" or "Mongol."

 

[Musalman]

Lol

sorry for weak English, English is not my First Language.

Answer to Jap @Nihonjin1051 and Turk Member @atatwolf
The Glory of the Mughal Empire | Page 31




1)Zahir-ud-din Muhammad Babur was an Uzbek Muslim who Founded Mughal Empire.
he was 100% Turkic
2)but Mother of Humayun was a IRANIAN QUEEN Maham Begam
Maham Begum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
so we can say that Humayun was atlast 60% Iranian and 40% Turkish.

3)Mother of Akbar Hamida Banu Begam, 'Maryam Makani' was also an Iranian Queen and she was born in Sindh,South Asia.
Hamida Banu Begum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
so basically, Akbar was an Iranian-Turkish Male

3)Jodha Bai, Mother of Jahangir is was 100% Rajput (Indic) Queen.
Mariam-uz-Zamani - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jahangir was "like" 60% INDIC, 30% Iranian and 10% Turkish Emperor of South Asia.

4) Mother of Shah Jahan was Again a Rajput Princess Rajkumari Shri Manavati Baiji Lall Sahiba
so, Shah Jahan was Indian-Iranian King not a Turkish king.


all i want to say is Stay in your Japan and Fake Turkish Nation, our kings have nothing common with your Bac

Lol seem logical but isn't lineage taken from Father. Btw Turk or Iranian, who gives a damn about mughals.

 

[xenon54 out]

Not really, Turkics have given up their original way of life for an Arabic religion and script

Latin script isnt Arabic.

Persian language

Not really.

ulture, architecture, etc.

Turkish Architecture is a mixture of Byzantine, Arabic, Persian and European.

 

[Hindustani78]

Lol
Lol seem logical but isn't lineage taken from Father. Btw Turk or Iranian, who gives a damn about mughals.

Mongolic tribes adopted many languages and religions after the invasion of Gengiz Khan in 13th Century and after the fall of Abbasid Caliphate in Baghdad 1258 AD, Mongolic tribes adopted Persian language in Central Asia and Iran and expanded thier control over Europe.

But Mongolic tribes invaded India and Arabia in later stages but the Mongolic tribes were never able to control India and Arabia.

The Mongol Empire at its greatest extent included all of modern-day Mongolia, China, parts of Burma, Romania, Pakistan, much or all of Russia, Siberia, Ukraine, Belarus, Cilicia, Anatolia, Georgia, Armenia, Persia, Iraq, and Central Asia.

Turkish Architecture is a mixture of Byzantine, Arabic, Persian and European.

Arabic architecture was similar like Indians but mostly the Monglic tribes after 13th Century adopted mainly farsi language and have bring thier culture to other lands.

Ulugh Beg Madrasa. Samarkand, Uzbekistan (begun 1417)

Samarkand madrasa Ulugh Beg