Mughals were Indo-Iranic not Turkic People

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Whateva! Bangladeshi's are Turkic people.

 

[Hindustani78]

Whateva! Bangladeshi's are Turkic people.

Ancient culture of India is clearly visible among the Sub Continent Muslims.

 

[XenoEnsi-14]

I can solve this really easly....

Turkish Mutts
Pakistani Mutts
Indian Mutts
Bengali Mutts
Arab Mutts
East Asian Mutts
Russian Mutts
European Mutts
African Mutts
North American Mutts
South American Mutts
Central American Mutts
Australian Mutts
Islanders Mutts
And Anybody else Mutts

If I missed you, you're a Mutt.

End of Story.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Latin script isnt Arabic.


Not really.

Turkish Architecture is a mixture of Byzantine, Arabic, Persian and European.

Im not talking about Anatolian Turkish, Mughals have nothing to do with them. Im talking about the Central Asian Turkics. Specifically the ones that were/would be Mughals later. When they converted to Islam, they grabbed on to the most influential Islamic culture near them, which was Persian.

And they gradually adopted Persian as the court language. And used a Arabic influenced script.

 

[utraash]

All were worst creature on earth including others invaders.....

 

[Hindustani78]

Im not talking about Anatolian Turkish, Mughals have nothing to do with them. Im talking about the Central Asian Turkics. Specifically the ones that were/would be Mughals later. When they converted to Islam, they grabbed on to the most influential Islamic culture near them, which was Persian.

And they gradually adopted Persian as the court language. And used a Arabic influenced script.

Moghuls were closer to the Genghiz Khan tribes and it was mainly the Genghiz Khan hordes who routed out many kingdoms during the 12th and 13th century but later adopted religions like buddhism,Islam and even christianity.

Central-East Asia at the beginning of 1450 AD. The Moghuls controlled Moghulistan, Altishahr, and Turfan

All were worst creature on earth including others invaders.....

It was around 1520 AD that Afghanistan become part of Moghul Empire.

 

[utraash]

Moghuls were closer to the Genghiz Khan tribes and it was mainly the Genghiz Khan hordes who routed out many kingdoms during the 12th and 13th century but later adopted religions like buddhism,Islam and even christianity.

Central-East Asia at the beginning of 1450 AD. The Moghuls controlled Moghulistan, Altishahr, and Turfan

It was around 1520 AD that Afghanistan become part of Moghul Empire.

Buddy whatever time it was still you cant deny their inhuman deeds...... N I m condemning entire breeds of invaders who massacred innocent ppl ..... I see that entire phase is one of the bloodiest phase of subcontinent...... This phase is not talked about much yet 60-80 million ppl were massacred in all the Muslim conquest in subcontinent.... Most of these raids happened regularly on western n northern India..... I have no affinity to these invaders whatsoever.....

 

[Hindustani78]

Buddy whatever time it was still you cant deny their inhuman deeds...... N I m condemning entire breeds of invaders who massacred innocent ppl ..... I see that entire phase is one of the bloodiest phase of subcontinent...... This phase is not talked about much yet 60-80 million ppl were massacred in all the Muslim conquest in subcontinent.... Most of these raids happened regularly on western n northern India..... I have no affinity to these invaders whatsoever.....

the mongols killed more than 700,000 people in merv and more than a million in nishapur . The total population of Abbasid Caliphate may have dropped from 2,500,000 to 250,000 as a result of mass extermination and famine.

 

[utraash]

the mongols killed more than 700,000 people in merv and more than a million in nishapur . The total population of Abbasid Caliphate may have dropped from 2,500,000 to 250,000 as a result of mass extermination and famine.

These whatever figures you are giving qualify them into brackets of most inhumane breeds on earth ..... Let me tell you buddy any innocent killed or plundered or raped by anyone irrespective of any background must be equated to inhumane breeds... I have no mercy in my heart whosoever....

 

[Hindustani78]

These whatever figures you are giving qualify them into brackets of most inhumane breeds on earth ..... Let me tell you buddy any innocent killed or plundered or raped by anyone irrespective of any background must be equated to inhumane breeds... I have no mercy in my heart whosoever....

I see all these historical genocide were done on Indian tribes.

 

[Hindustani78]

Aran and Bidgol: Iranian worshipers recite verses of the Quran, Islams holy book, during the Muslim holy fasting month of Ramadan at the shrine of Saint Mohammad Helal Ibn Ali in the city of Aran and Bidgol, some 140 miles (225 kilometers) south of the capital Tehran, Iran.

 

[Anuj Tagra]

doesnt matter,mughal breed is extinct now.

 

[Hindustani78]

doesnt matter,mughal breed is extinct now.

The Mughals of India are Indians now.

 

[Anuj Tagra]

yeh mughal hain? Hahahaha,kahaan bheekh maang rahe hain yeh?

 

[Hindustani78]

The Hindu : Identity crisis... .the royal kind
it traces the history of Moghuls from1857 to 2002 - a period of 145 years which saw the sudden disappearance of Moghuls from the historical centrestage. But Begum Laila Umahani helps tracing it when she reveals that after Bahadur Shah Zafar's exile to Burma by the British in 1857, his son Mirza Quaish - the first generation -- managed to save his life and fled to Kathmandu. After he secretly came back to India, he was given shelter by Maharana of Udaipur. His son Mirza Abdullah -- the second generation -- again a fugitive, went to Nagpur and then Aurangabad and finally Hyderabad. Here, Nizam of Hyderabad helped him. His son Mirza Pyre later married Habeeb Begum, hailing from the family of the sixth Nizam of Hyderabad. One "Habeeb Mahal" near Char Minar in Hyderabad, belongs to her which is occupied by one family and they have moved High Court for its possession. Begum Laila Umahani, daughter of Mirza is the fourth and only surviving Moghul from the family.

The film-maker, Arijeet Gupta met the family in 1998 after he saw a letter from Ziauddin Tucy addressed to the powers that be requesting the family to grant benefits/ pensions to help them survive with dignity. Since Laila Begum was not ready to articulate her viewpoint, and there could not be many compromises on authenticity, this documentary took five years to complete, he says.

She narrates the historical background that she says is found in record books too. It is reported that historians Maheshwar Dayal and Tara Chand also verified the same in their books. "Mirza Fatehul Mulk Bahadur alias Mirza Fakhruh was appointed the heir apparent in 1853. At the time of Mutiny, the son of Mirza Fakhruh, Mirza Farkhunda Jamal was only four or five year old. When Major Hudson killed the sons and grandsons of Bahadur Shah Zafar at Khooni Darwaza, Delhi on Bahadur Shah Zafar Marg, and soon after this news broke out, the nurse - Anna -- of Mirza Farkhunda Jamal took the child secretly without even informing the family because those who were responsible for the Mutiny were among the family only. For years, she did not reveal his identity and nurtured him by doing different work at different places. That is how she managed to save the last successor."

Begum Qamar Sultan with younger brother Hamid Shah in royal costume, 1963.


Some time after the Mutiny the British announced that there would be no killings and punishment, Anna brought the child back to the mother. The British Government released political pension in favour of Mirza Farkhunda Jamal as the heir apparent. After the death of Mirza Jamal, the pension was received by his sons and daughters -- Qamar Sultan Begum -- daughter of Mirza Jamal who kept receiving this share even after Independence. She refused to take it sometime after the Independence saying now we are free citizens and everyone is equal in this democratic country. Sultan Begum died in June 1993. She had two daughters, Begum Tahira Sultan and Pakeeza Sultan Begum. The former is settled in London while the latter lives in Delhi and is also an ex-director ICCR and an expert on Africa.