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You need to learn Islam to understand my objection.
And ghairat here can be defined as protectiveness of the family's females by their Male Guardians like Father, brother or husband. If you have a sister the feeling of protectiveness for her that you have that no boy or man from outside stare her or do her any verbal or physical harm and use her in any way, that feeling is called ghairat.

The sweat on my forehead is more Islamic than those who champion this Ghairat-Shitrat. Now what if your sister also stares back at the man ? Will you honor-kill her or imprison her ? Islam gives the female the right to choose her mate so who are you to stop her ? Leave aside Islam who are you to impose on her your misogyny, anti-democracy and anti-humanity ? She is a human in her own right.

It is often the case that those who hide away their family's females are the first ones to use foul words against females and the ones to form gangs and harass females and to be Talibanic. All this ghairat-shitrat thing is not from Islam but from pre-Islamic South Asian culture so right now stop indulging in it. Where goes your "Ghairat" when your neighborhood boy gets raped by a mullah in your own neighborhood ? Why do you associate your family honor with only the thoughts and acts of your family females ? What if your brother rapes a boy or becomes a mullah ? Shouldn't you go paani-paani with shame ? Shouldn't your ghairat be besmirched ? Your member name is Thinker3 so Think !
 
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stop show typical Pakistani elites showering in yindu piss!

director is fat chinoy,!
 
What do dancing, cuisine and clothing have to do with glory?

Our only glory is Islam that liberated us from false gods and brahmin slavery.
Wrong, our glory starts from the Indus Valley Civilization. Islam could have brought glory to us had we actually decided to follow the basic principles of Islam. In our country, corruption is an intrinsic part of our culture now. We shamelessly lie, cheat and steal, is this what Islam teaches? Our mullahs rape and sexually harass children in the mosques, does this not go completely against the teachings of Islam?
 
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Wrong, first our glory starts from the Indus Valley Civilization. Islam could have brought glory to us had we actually decided to follow the basic principles of Islam. In our country, corruption is an intrinsic part of our culture now. We shamelessly lie, cheat and steal, is this what Islam teaches? Our mullahs rape and sexually harass children in the mosques, does this not go completely against the teachings of Islam?

Indus Valley Civilization was by all reasonable accounts a civilized society and Islam brought civilization later ( though in Central and Western South Asia many Muslims are still not civilized ) but above IVC and Islam should fly the flag of Common Humanism, solidarity with every rational and innocent human wherever.
 
Indus Valley Civilization was by all reasonable accounts a civilized society and Islam brought civilization later ( though in Central and Western South Asia many Muslims are still not civilized ) but above IVC and Islam should fly the flag of Common Humanism, solidarity with every rational and innocent human wherever.
Even after the introduction of Islam in Central Asia, it took an extremely long time for that place to become civilized, Afghanistan still hasn't decided to become civilized. Arabia was the real cradle of civilization, this is where Islam did its magic and brought the greatest golden age in the history of mankind. This occurred because the people of the region truly embraced Islam. The people of Arabia started pursuing knowledge like there was no tomorrow and they did their best to uplift their society, in Pakistan the exact opposite happens.

Indus Valley Civilization was by all reasonable accounts a civilized society and Islam brought civilization later ( though in Central and Western South Asia many Muslims are still not civilized ) but above IVC and Islam should fly the flag of Common Humanism, solidarity with every rational and innocent human wherever.
This is what Islam preaches but our people are more interested in hate preaching.
 
Even after the introduction of Islam in Central Asia, it took an extremely long time for that place to become civilized, Afghanistan still hasn't decided to become civilized. Arabia was the real cradle of civilization, this is where Islam did its magic and brought the greatest golden age in the history of mankind. This occurred because the people of the region truly embraced Islam. The people of Arabia started pursuing knowledge like there was no tomorrow and they did their best to uplift their society, in Pakistan the exact opposite happens.


This is what Islam preaches but our people are more interested in hate preaching.

Agree with most. Where I don't agree is the statement that Islam brought the greatest golden age for humanity. Well, the real space age has begun and in about seven years a few humans will set foot on Mars very possibly through SpaceX. Humans on another world for the first time in human history ! That will set events which will lead to Humankind discovering life elsewhere, whether microbial or plant or animal or other. We don't know what the greatest golden age of humanity is. Please watch this wonderful postulation documentary by YT channel Melody Sheep about what all kinds of life we may find in the universe. We may find other types but this documentary presents some. Beautiful visuals, music and scientific theories, imaginations, possibilities. The documentary is called Museum of Alien Life :
But before that watch this trailer for a new documentary from Melody Sheep :
 
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The only thing left of Indus valley civilization is some ruins. The most important thing we should be learning from them is how to avoid that fate ourselves, instead of looking for glory in Mohenjodaro.
I agree, we should learn from the rise and fall of various great civilisations.
 
Our only glory is Islam that liberated us from false gods and brahmin slavery.
Eat islam for lunch and dinner not your cuisine, read Quran during your wedding celebration, watch madni channel shows and not TV, speak Arabic from Gulf not yours, do that tire head sword dance not yours

that's how they destroyed everything- from our languages to whole mentality of the country and made us inferiority complex ridden weirdos

By bringing religion into the most random shit, like what does Islam has to do with this? - you have no identity except for this

If you don't fine, I respect that but don't force us along for the ride

If we want to feel proud of who we are as a people than don't shut us down by bringing relgion into things that have nothing to do with religion

If we are talking about culture you bringing Islam into it stupid
 
Yes, history is to learn lessons from. We can be proud of things we oursleves achieve based on those lessons.
I strongly agree with this. All of us need to ask ourselves what we as individuals have done for our family, society, country and the world.
 
Only Punjab was partitiioned. Sindh, KPK etc joined in toto. Maximum 10% of Pakistan was directly effected by partition.

AJK was massively impacted by partition, we along with the Northern kin were the only ones who fought a war of liberation.
Many Pakistanis on here claim Pakistan never fought one, yes we did, our people did from the Dogra and the Indian army. Had our forefathers sat around and did nothing or waited for the Pakistani army Pakistan's borders would have started at Rawalpindi.....
 
The sweat on my forehead is more Islamic than those who champion this Ghairat-Shitrat. Now what if your sister also stares back at the man ? Will you honor-kill her or imprison her ? Islam gives the female the right to choose her mate so who are you to stop her ? Leave aside Islam who are you to impose on her your misogyny, anti-democracy and anti-humanity ? She is a human in her own right.

It is often the case that those who hide away their family's females are the first ones to use foul words against females and the ones to form gangs and harass females and to be Talibanic. All this ghairat-shitrat thing is not from Islam but from pre-Islamic South Asian culture so right now stop indulging in it. Where goes your "Ghairat" when your neighborhood boy gets raped by a mullah in your own neighborhood ? Why do you associate your family honor with only the thoughts and acts of your family females ? What if your brother rapes a boy or becomes a mullah ? Shouldn't you go paani-paani with shame ? Shouldn't your ghairat be besmirched ? Your member name is Thinker3 so Think !
I don't argue with the ignorant.
 
This just give boob tube indians some relevance

- partition was in general a happy thing for us . Good riddance to those oppressive Hindus .. this is some thing Imran Khan keeps reminding us in his political rallies

- most of the massacre were planned and provoked by Hindus putting sikhs ahead mass murder and rape immigrating Muslims. Hindus were deeply upset with partition and Muslims were not.

- our weddings certainly do not look like this


Sure a few families may do this but the vast overwhelming majority does not do this .. this just Indian crap culture slapped on this
 

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