MQM Target killer Nadeem took training from RAW & Indian Army :- Mubashir Lucman shows JIT Report

[Wolf]

O chunnu munnu, stick to history which Afghan shat on which rock on earth, which baloch pissed where and when...do that.

Open your mouth about India's daughters, and I will rip you a new one and no one will be able to tell which is for eating and which is for shitting. Ok ?

I did give you the warning.

and how will u do that by sitting on this forum and what warning? Whatever you say u will be replied in kind and we all will end up abusing each other mothers and daughters. what is being said in this thread is far less. i have seen far filthy statements on your websites so better not get too touchy. you know and we know if badmouthing gets started there will be no end to it. yeah if u think u can do what u can by facing anybody of us one on one then your words can be given a serious thought.

 

[rockstar08]

For now i see all of them on the same page... i agree that Oprn like 92 should not be on the cards, Gov is also voiding that due to political reasons, Rangers are very careful in their oprn and raids are conducted on intel reports ... MQM is also avoiding a direct clash with the state and is expressing their reservation against the current oprn thru media and in NA

ufffffffffffffffffffff brother ... probably the best post so far
but just one thing i disagree , and that is , i dont trust NS , i know he dont like AH , so he dont like Army either , he will do anything to ruin the reputation of Army , and that is why he can take hard steps against certain community , i think its best in interest of MQM and karachi people that they should not directly confront with Rangers, because people still have respect left for rangers as compared to police , MQM can take legal way to launch their protests , and can go to Courts , but i hope MQM will not do anything stupid , cause if they do , than they will loose much of their supporters , if MQM take that same old blood path , or closing Karachi and hurting Pakistan's economy , i will seriously stop Supporting even good people who are in MQM ...

 

[Devil Soul]

ufffffffffffffffffffff brother ... probably the best post so far
but just one thing i disagree , and that is , i dont trust NS , i know he dont like AH , so he dont like Army either , he will do anything to ruin the reputation of Army , and that is why he can take hard steps against certain community , i think its best in interest of MQM and karachi people that they should not directly confront with Rangers, because people still have respect left for rangers as compared to police , MQM can take legal way to launch their protests , and can go to Courts , but i hope MQM will not do anything stupid , cause if they do , than they will loose much of their supporters , if MQM take that same old blood path , or closing Karachi and hurting Pakistan's economy , i will seriously stop Supporting even good people who are in MQM ...

Well people want peace & the way things have moved after a raid on 90 suggest that people are standing by rangers, thats why we have'nt seen MQM protesting on the streets as they did before... Political parties will also go by the mood of gen public which is pretty much favoring a targeted operation against the thugs rather than a complete all out war, in which gen public suffers... so far the approach taken by the state & security agencies is working in their favor ..

 

[rockstar08]

Well people want peace & the way things have moved after a raid on 90 suggest that people are standing by rangers, thats why we have'nt seen MQM protesting on the streets as they did before... Political parties will also go by the mood of gen public which is pretty much favoring a target operation against the thugs rather that a complete all out war, in which gen public suffers... so far the approach taken by the state & security agencies is working in their favor ..

MQM is on the back foot because of some reasons ..
1. they were the first to call Rangers and Army to do Operation ..
2. they still enjoy the large number of Supporters .
3. they know that their Party is been hijacked by Criminals and run by a ********* leader ..
4. they know any confrontation with Ranger will lead to Army , and no matter how much MQM is beloved , when it comes to Army , majority of Urdu speaking Community will stand with Army ..
5. the more intensely they react , can and will be used against them ..

conclusion .. stay quite and let the rangers do their work , but if they think Rangers take some Innocent workers into custody , they should take the legal way .. aka Judiciary .

 

[Secur]

Come on! The Pakistan rangers is operating on the same principle now as the Pakistani armed forces in the country's North-West. I.e trying to drive a distinction between good and bad terrorists, for now the MQM is the devil - needs to be dealt with (no arguments there) while the rest have just arrived after a bath in the Ganges and need to be left alone (hence it so happens that even after a raid on 90 which is being pointed like some sort of terror GHQ when all it was just another militant wing of a political party, the dead count in this city is refusing to go below 9-10). Maybe now you can understand why. And well, pointing to an Indian/American/Israeli conspiracy is a favorite pastime of my countrymen, nothing new and nothing extraordinary there. Wake me up and try to rub all this in our face, when you start to raid at Pir Pagara house-Bilawal house-Bacha khan markaz-Noor Haq and operate against all militant wings of political parties, banned religious organization and dozens of mafias. Otherwise, I have seen a lot of killers of 100-200-300-500-1000 people who received training (of all countries) in India. Selective justice is not good at all, what you are doing by operating against one and sparing others is doing damage which is beyond the comprehension of your single digit mentality.

@Samandri I will tell you a secret, the first murder on the face of the Earth was committed by a MQM activist on direct orders of Altaf Hussain.

You know what, whenever I watch the speech of Altaf Hussain. I always think that how a sane person can follow this guy.

I myself wonder the same, a drunkard with loosened inhibition uttering everything that comes in his mind. But yet there are millions of party's supporters in this city, why?

 

[QAMARSHAZADQURESHI]

O chunnu munnu, stick to history which Afghan shat on which rock on earth, which baloch pissed where and when...do that.

Open your mouth about India's daughters, and I will rip you a new one and no one will be able to tell which is for eating and which is for shitting. Ok ?

I did give you the warning.

 

[Secur]

Particularly, I remember something about a certain alleged Jinnah-pur during the 90's operation against a particular race in Karachi, what was the end result? The same commanders later admitting that it was all a hoax. JIT you say, as in Joint Investigation Team, Monsieur?

 

[SQ8]

Particularly, I remember something about a certain alleged Jinnah-pur during the 90's operation against a particular race in Karachi, what was the end result? The same commanders later admitting that it was all a hoax. JIT you say, as in Joint Investigation Team, Monsieur?

What was worse was that reports of similar atrocities such as those committed in Bangladesh emerged in the aftermath of that operation.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

kash itni training RAW apni indian army ko b day gay.

 

[QAMARSHAZADQURESHI]

mqm mandate

 

[Samandri]

Come on! The Pakistan rangers is operating on the same principle now as the Pakistani armed forces in the country's North-West. I.e trying to drive a distinction between good and bad terrorists, for now the MQM is the devil - needs to be dealt with (no arguments there) while the rest have just arrived after a bath in the Ganges and need to be left alone (hence it so happens that even after a raid on 90 which is being pointed like some sort of terror GHQ when all it was just another militant wing of a political party, the dead count in this city is refusing to go below 9-10). Maybe now you can understand why. And well, pointing to an Indian/American/Israeli conspiracy is a favorite pastime of my countrymen, nothing new and nothing extraordinary there. Wake me up and try to rub all this in our face, when you start to raid at Pir Pagara house-Bilawal house-Bacha khan markaz-Noor Haq and operate against all militant wings of political parties, banned religious organization and dozens of mafias. Otherwise, I have seen a lot of killers of 100-200-300-500-1000 people who received training (of all countries) in India. Selective justice is not good at all, what you are doing by operating against one and sparing others is doing damage which is beyond the comprehension of your single digit mentality.

@Samandri I will tell you a secret, the first murder on the face of the Earth was committed by a MQM activist on direct orders of Altaf Hussain.



I myself wonder the same, a drunkard with loosened inhibition uttering everything that comes in his mind. But yet there are millions of party's supporters in this city, why?

Stop being an apologist of MQM , also crying victim wont work as Karachi operation is going on for year and half and in that duration other areas of Karachi have been targeted.......Just one raid on nine zero aur itna shor o ghol?

 

[Secur]

What was worse was that reports of similar atrocities such as those committed in Bangladesh emerged in the aftermath of that operation.

Is that why Bangladesh separated from Pakistan? Atrocities, you say, bon ami? I learned from my textbooks that two prominent factors of that were the geographical distance and the Indian conspiracy and that of Hindus living inside the erstwhile East Pakistan These people never learn, they haven't an ounce of idea of the thinking pattern inside the city at the moment, what happened during the 1992 when an entire race was targeted on the idea of every Muhajir being an MQM activist and most elders will not hesitate to point it out that the current episode is no different with new youngsters who didn't support the party before rallying in support now because of insecurity, since they see the others involved in the same still enjoying tea at Piyala Hotel, Karachi. Let the elections come, you will see for yourself.

MQM is everything alleged, I do not object to the operation against it, what it isn't however is no different than the rest of the political parties. Pakistanis dont even hate equally, as it happens.

 

[Gazi]

when was the last time you visited Lahore.. i think you are assuming that Lahore is not diverse.. please visit lahore before we discuss of who is how much diverse. people of sindh or local parties suppose to run those projects if you elect currept people who we sud blame lahori or peshawari.. and you talked about police buddy then i think you havent heard stories of punjab police lets just remember of model town for an example.. urdu speaking can call or non urdu speaking is beating us where does punjabi go for complain. Bribe is in routs of everyone i bet if you just take a close look you will find your own relatives involve in bribe..did you ever raiz your voice against them. i am not judging you but claiming Karachi only have grievence and rest of the country is like paris and london. not correct.
i am totally against quota system .. who ever is eligible sud deserve post.. we are so hypocrate..
every other big city in the world does have mafia with in.. its your police and political parties who stop them unfortunatily they devided even police for their own gain and people like you and me defending their action.. we sud be talking how to develop pakistan or answering our enemies .. but look what we have done to our time.. comparing eachother trying to be innocence and better from each other..

Last year was the time I visited Lahore but the only thing that I found is that People are quite Adaptive of Urdu Language there other then that most of everything are Homogeneous maybe your level of Diversity could be about One side of a province to another side of a province mostly but here we got all sides of a Country even those who doesnt exist any other Big City of Pakistan. As for Electing people then its not Urban Sindh that Elects PPP its Interior Sindh that do and that is the whole bone of Contention when we ask for Separate Administrative Unit because we cant live under Corrupt people Elected by Interior Sindh people say its RACIST. Do you think we can progress the way this keep going like this as Interior Sindh has shown no sign of Changing and those stupid Waderas would keep ruling the province. Karachi is actually destroyed by PPP not by MQM as MQM is trying to improve whatever they got and sudden actions from Army and Agencies are not helping here instead making it worse and giving lot of Question regarding what their intention actually are as no other Party has faced any of such issue so far.

 

[Secur]

Stop being an apologist of MQM , crying victim wont work also as Karachi operation is going on for year and half and in that duration other areas of Karachi have been targeted.......Just one raid on nine zero aur itna shor o ghol?

Either learn to answer by facts/logic or stop tagging those whom you cant handle afterwards. It isn't crying victim, since I have repeatedly stated that I have no problem with the raid in question, it is merely saying that do not target selectively. Other areas of Karachi have been targeted, sure, however no prominent/known HQ's of political parties have been raided before, 90 was an exception. That is where the problem lies, unless the Pakistan rangers is telling me (as it was telling the media on the eve of the operation that it doesn't carry 9MM Lol) that only MQM has an militant wing. I do not understand why. Why are the others safe?

Karachi operation even after the long duration has yet to prove its worth, open the news and watch the daily dead count, whats the excuse there?

 

[Samandri]

Either learn to answer by facts/logic or stop tagging those whom you cant handle afterwards. It isn't crying victim, since I have repeatedly stated that I have no problem with the raid in question, it is merely saying that do not target selectively. Other areas of Karachi have been targeted, sure, however no prominent/known HQ's of political parties have been raided before, 90 was an exception. That is where the problem lies, unless the Pakistan rangers is telling me (as it was telling the media on the eve of the operation that it doesn't carry 9MM Lol) that only MQM has an militant wing. I do not understand why. Why are the others safe?

Karachi operation has yet to prove its worth, open the news and watch the daily dead count, whats the excuse there?

Has Rangers made any announcement that they are stopping Karachi op after a raid on Nine Zero?, has Rangers issued any statement that they wont target criminals affiliated with other political parties?......
Mostly MQM runs Land Mafia, Extortion business, street crimes and Target killing in Karachi , i am actually surprised why they are not targeted from day one, why so much delay?.......Enough with "naloom afraad" and their supporters like you, Karachi needs peace and for that MQM needs to be eliminated. Not a single target killing since raid on nine zero.

And equating raid on nine zero with east pakistan episode is ridiculous. Your party kills people, packs them in boris, kill people with hattorra, instigate sectarian violence , burn buses of pathans, kill people for mobile phone............and sheds crocodile tears? what a munafiq and lowly bunch