Move over, F-22 Raptor !

[Hafizzz]

Sukhoi PAK FA T-50 much more powerful than USA's F-22 Raptor
Sukhoi PAK FA T-50 much more powerful than USA's F-22 Raptor - English pravda.ru

Russia's new fifth-generation PAK FA T-50 fighter jet performed its first demonstration flight at MAKS-2011 international air and space show in the town of Zhukovsky, near Moscow. The flight was conducted for the arrival of Prime Minister Putin at the show.

Putin had an opportunity to take a close look at the aircraft to see that hundreds of millions of rubles invested in the project had not been wasted. The designers of the new fighter jet say that the performance of the T-50 exceeds the US analogue. However, the USA is about to unveil something new for this class of aircraft.

Two T-50 jets appeared in the sky above Zhukovsky at 16:00 o'clock yesterday. The jets performed aerial stunts and then landed.

The official press release says that the T-50 will combine the functions of the assault aircraft and fighter jet. The aircraft is equipped with a new complex of avionics which integrates the electronic function and a prospective phased-array radar. The new equipment gives the pilot an opportunity to concentrate more on the execution of combat tasks, the Rossiiskaya Gazeta wrote.

The on-board equipment allows to exchange data both with mission control centers and within the aviation groups in the air in the mode of real time. The use of composite materials and innovative technologies, the aerodynamic configuration of the aircraft and engine signature reduction measures provide the unexampled low level of radar, optic and infrared signature.

The Russian fifth-generation aircraft can be compared to the USA's F-22.

"One may say that the T-50 exceeds the foreign analogues on certain specifications, the maneuverability, first and foremost. The artificial intellect system will also surprise the competitors," official said.

For the time being, there is only one fifth-generation aircraft in the world - the US F-22 Raptor. The tests of the Raptor were launched in 1997. The jet was passed into service in 2005.

Unlike the F-22, which uses stealth technology, 85 percent of the surface of Russian T-50 is covered with unique nanotechnological materials that decrease both the visibility of the plane and the air drag. The technical specifications of the missiles for the jet exceed the analogues of the US aircraft. In addition, the T-50 can fire the missiles hidden in internal departments at hypersonic speed. The US fifth-generation aircraft can not do this and has to decelerate for the purpose.

In the meantime, the USA continues the development of a new fifth-generation aircraft - F-35. The new plane can be passed into service in the United States in 2016.

According to experts' estimates, the value of all contracts that can be concluded during MAKS-2011 air show may exceed $10 billion. Sky Aviation of Indonesia signed the contract worth $380 million during the first day of the show to purchase 12 Sukhoi SuperJet-100. The liners will be delivered to the customer before 2015.

Go Russia Go !!!

 

[Patrician]

USA is probably working on a sixth gen aircraft now.

Seventh gen would also be in the pipeline somewhere down the decade.

...this when the world is still to move to fifth gen.

BTW, the source is Russian.

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

alhamdollilah ... Good for India if true .

 

[jdme]

F-22 was conceived 25-30 years ago. Awesome job Russia, beating a plane that is flying for last 8 years.

 

[Hafizzz]

USA is probably working on a sixth gen aircraft now.

Seventh gen would also be in the pipeline somewhere down the decade.

...this when the world is still to move to fifth gen.

Uncle SAM wasting money......

 

[jdme]

USA is probably working on a sixth gen aircraft now.

Seventh gen would also be in the pipeline somewhere down the decade.

...this when the world is still to move to fifth gen.

Basically a Boeing that can shoot laser Another stupid white elephant.

 

[Broccoli]

I know that work force in Russia is cheap, but it does not explain that huge cost difrences between F-22 and T-50. Yanks used over 60 billion to make F-22... According state run media T-50 project has cost only 6-10 billion so far.

T-50 = SU-35 in a new shell?

 

[Zabaniyah]

Heh, marketing - Russian style

The Russian military will use new MiG-35D multirole fighters as an equal to the U.S. F-35 fighters, the Air Force chief said on Tuesday.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-forum/125310-mig-35-equal-u-s-f-35-russia.html

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I know that work force in Russia is cheap, but it does not explain that huge cost difrences between F-22 and T-50. Yanks used over 60 billion to make F-22... According state run media T-50 project has cost only 6-10 billion so far.

T-50 = SU-35 in a new shell?

With the money spent on the F-22 by the Americans, that same money can be used by the Russians to develop a craft that can transport a man to the moon and back again

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Yeah they spent 60 bills on raptor and the russian spent 6............ Sure russians can compare their maruti with the F1.

 

[CardSharp]

Pravda... I'm not making a value judgement on which is better but I certainly wouldn't take Pravda's word for it.

 

[Chogy]

Russia has a ways to go with the PAK-FA project. It is still a prototype.

Compare the lines, the fit and finish, especially around the cockpit, the radome, the exhaust area. The PAK-FA isn't quite there yet. Look at the gap between inlet and fuselage, the protuberances near the canopy. The PAK-FA canopy isn't even tinted with radar-reflective materials, yet. It will be eventually, but the canopy bow will remain.

It is undoubtedly very capable, but not F-22 class. To say "Move over" is premature.

 

[below_freezing]

Russia has a ways to go with the PAK-FA project. It is still a prototype.

Compare the lines, the fit and finish, especially around the cockpit, the radome, the exhaust area. The PAK-FA isn't quite there yet. Look at the gap between inlet and fuselage, the protuberances near the canopy. The PAK-FA canopy isn't even tinted with radar-reflective materials, yet. It will be eventually, but the canopy bow will remain.

It is undoubtedly very capable, but not F-22 class. To say "Move over" is premature.

Is there also not a gap between the F-22's intakes and fuselage?

If you use gaps between fuselage and intake as an indicator of lack of stealth (which is completely justified, seeing that constructive interference of radio waves can occur when it reflects off the interior of the gap) then the J-20 is the best of all with its fused intake.

 

[siegecrossbow]

Is there also not a gap between the F-22's intakes and fuselage?

If you use gaps between fuselage and intake as an indicator of lack of stealth (which is completely justified, seeing that constructive interference of radio waves can occur when it reflects off the interior of the gap) then the J-20 is the best of all with its fused intake.

I think Chogy was referring to the large "dip" on the underside of the T-50, which kinda ruins the radar cross section from the below. The bottom of the F-22, on the other hand, is flat.

 

[Broccoli]

Thats why those conventional inlets need heavy RAM treatment. Of course F-35 and J-20 do not have that problem (thanks to DSI) since they don't have those gaps.

 

[Chogy]

My impression is just an overall "feel" on details that affect RCS, and the picture I posted is a good one. That's all we can do anyhow, is speculate based upon published images and what little data there is. The F-22 is a cleaner airplane.

Fit/finish is critical. Seams and panels have to be perfect. It's a very subtle thing. Remember, the F-117 needed special putty on certain areas every flight, or it'd light up like a beacon. Getting a hugely reduced RCS is very hard to do.