Most Dangerous Battle Tanks in Pakistani Service: From Al Khalid I to the T-80

[Zarvan]

By the way anyone has any idea how many VT 4 Pakistan plans to induct.

 

[Raja Porus]

By the way anyone has any idea how many VT 4 Pakistan plans to induct.

Almost 320 initially, for 6th armoured div. It is also expected that if AK production doesn't catch up then more may be bought to replace t59/69s

 

[blueazure]

irrelevant -

1. tank combat is a thing of the past

2. tanks offer hardly any advantage to any military planner for the modern battle field

3. syria, iraq, yemen, armenia = the most advanced MBTs were stopped dead in tracks even with primitive ATGMs . the issue here is the massive proliferation of ATGMs and not the systems themselves

4. drones will finish off what an ATGM killer team cant ( ie a tank hiding behing a wall etc) ( as we saw in armenia)

5. india - pakistan defensive lines are criss crossed with ATGM line of fires, ditches, mine fields, more ditches and more minefields.... tanks will be relegated to glorified pill boxes in any future south asian conflict

 

[Raja Porus]

irrelevant -

1. tank combat is a thing of the past

2. tanks offer hardly any advantage to any military planner for the modern battle field

3. syria, iraq, yemen, armenia = the most advanced MBTs were stopped dead in tracks even with primitive ATGMs . the issue here is the massive proliferation of ATGMs and not the systems themselves

4. drones will finish off what an ATGM killer team cant ( ie a tank hiding behing a wall etc) ( as we saw in armenia)

5. india - pakistan defensive lines are criss crossed with ATGM line of fires, ditches, mine fields, more ditches and more minefields.... tanks will be relegated to glorified pill boxes in any future south asian conflict

Please yar this topic has been discussed to death. Why you people always quote assymetrical conflicts with conventional ones.

 

[HRK]

Please discuss new features of T85UG i.e upgraded ones,

 

[HRK]

They get the engine from the AZ (730 HP).

T-85 always had 730 hp engine, it has not received engine upgrade

In fact If I am not mistaken it was AZ series which received T-85 engine as part of upgrade package

though ERA is missing on these tanks, I wonder if it can be added

it is optional as shown above in brochure of T-85-IIAP same can be seen below attached pic t the side and front of the turret

 

[khanmubashir]

Recent Azerbaijan Armenia conflict showed drone's supremacy over tanks
And they cost fraction of em

Pak should focus more on these emerging technologies


This also questions the logic of buying a new tank like VT 4

Electronic can be installed in old ones

And even heavy armour can only provide limited protection
And with fast developing munitions
That protection too is degrading

 

[Signalian]

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I think I found HRK in the pic

1. tank combat is a thing of the past

Lets disband all the Armored Divs of all armies Scrap business will boom.

What will be your offensive punch in ground force then ? Is the alternative ground Robots ? Cyborg Infantry ?

 

[Raja Porus]

Recent Azerbaijan Armenia conflict showed drone's supremacy over tanks
And they cost fraction of em

Pak should focus more on these emerging technologies


This also questions the logic of buying a new tank like VT 4

Electronic can be installed in old ones

And even heavy armour can only provide limited protection
And with fast developing munitions
That protection too is degrading

We've got another one

 

[Dazzler]

1. VT-4

2. AK-1

3. AK

4. Type-85UG

5. T-80UD

6. AZ

T-85 always had 730 hp engine, it has not received engine upgrade
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In fact If I am not mistaken it was AZ series which received T-85 engine as part of upgrade package

it is optional as shown above in brochure of T-85-IIAP same can be seen below attached pic t the side and front of the turret

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Type-85III storm 2 during trials with UD with the background.

 

[Inception-06]

1. VT-4

2. AK-1

3. AK

4. Type-85UG

5. T-80UD

6. AZ



Type-85III storm 2 during trials with UD with the background.

That means T-80 UDs aren’t in any upgrade programs just overhaul and maintainance.

 

[Zarvan]

1. VT-4

2. AK-1

3. AK

4. Type-85UG

5. T-80UD

6. AZ



Type-85III storm 2 during trials with UD with the background.

Why you have placed T 85 on fourth and T 80 on 5th.

 

[Dazzler]

Why you have placed T 85 on fourth and T 80 on 5th.

UG has better fcs/gcs, optics, ecs etc. UD has better armor, engine.

 

[Zarvan]

UG has better fcs/gcs, optics, ecs etc. UD has better armor, engine.

Any chance of T 80 getting upgraded locally. May be with Ukraine help or help from Turkey.

 

[khanmubashir]

We've got another one

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