Most BRUTAL Military Drills in the World

[Mugwop]

 

[Mugwop]

@Moonlight @Akheilos @Armstrong @jhungary @Horus @MilSpec @lastofthepatriots
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@Indos @Oscar @Levina

 

[jhungary]

@Moonlight @Akheilos @Armstrong @jhungary @Horus @MilSpec @lastofthepatriots
@MastanKhan @Chinese-Dragon @ChineseTiger1986 @SinoSoldier @Martian2 @Sinan

@Indos @Oscar @Levina

look pretty usual to me..........

The worse part of any training is not physical training, but psychological.

I remember once I was training in Ranger School? (Forgot if that is ranger school or SERE........) The whole bunch of us have nothing but water for 2 and a half day, extremely tired and extremely hungry, to a point I can and we did eat mud out of nothing. The black hat come by and bring a bunch of food (MRE, Junk food so on) and picked one of us and his job is to eat it infront of us, while the rest of us looked on.

I can endure a lot of pain and exercise and even exhaustion, but these psychological torture is nothing you can prepare, because that's how you, as a person, work.

 

[Indos]

@Moonlight @Akheilos @Armstrong @jhungary @Horus @MilSpec @lastofthepatriots
@MastanKhan @Chinese-Dragon @ChineseTiger1986 @SinoSoldier @Martian2 @Sinan

@Indos @Oscar @Levina

Hai sis, long time not see....


Yup, I am agree with @jhungary

We should focus more on psychological one to make a real warrior........

 

[Icarus]

look pretty usual to me..........

The worse part of any training is not physical training, but psychological.

I remember once I was training in Ranger School? (Forgot if that is ranger school or SERE........) The whole bunch of us have nothing but water for 2 and a half day, extremely tired and extremely hungry, to a point I can and we did eat mud out of nothing. The black hat come by and bring a bunch of food (MRE, Junk food so on) and picked one of us and his job is to eat it infront of us, while the rest of us looked on.

I can endure a lot of pain and exercise and even exhaustion, but these psychological torture is nothing you can prepare, because that's how you, as a person, work.

I swear man, hunger and sleep deprivation will kill you faster than physical pain ever can. I once tried to eat the hair off my arms out of hunger/boredom. Have also tried eating body lotion, can confirm it tastes like shit.

 

[Muhammad Omar]

Crawling on stones without using your hands tough

 

[jhungary]

I swear man, hunger and sleep deprivation will kill you faster than physical pain ever can. I once tried to eat the hair off my arms out of hunger/boredom. Have also tried eating body lotion, can confirm it tastes like shit.

lol, yeah, most people misunderstood (or rather it's one of the way to weed out the imposter) that Special Force or Ranger are usually full of fit people, those one you normally see in a Mr. International Competition. Have a lot of muscle and his bicep in the arms is bigger than my thigh....

Well, everyone can fight well if you are fed well and in a favourable position. It's always catch up to you when you are hungry, dehydrated and exhausted. Those who are in the Special Force are trained to fight in these condition. Those meathead Mr international I saw in selection or Ranger School usually won't last long, just as they said, it take a lot of upkeep to be that bulk, but in SF Training, that is everything BUT.

I eat like crap and always hungry, I know how that feel and I can function under those condition as I was like these since I am 14. I can eat bug, grass, mud and I would still survive, that is the different between Normal Soldier and Special Force, you fight super unfit in Special Force, because that can get more out of your mileage.

 

[Icarus]

lol, yeah, most people misunderstood (or rather it's one of the way to weed out the imposter) that Special Force or Ranger are usually full of fit people, those one you normally see in a Mr. International Competition. Have a lot of muscle and his bicep in the arms is bigger than my thigh....

Well, everyone can fight well if you are fed well and in a favourable position. It's always catch up to you when you are hungry, dehydrated and exhausted. Those who are in the Special Force are trained to fight in these condition. Those meathead Mr international I saw in selection or Ranger School usually won't last long, just as they said, it take a lot of upkeep to be that bulk, but in SF Training, that is everything BUT.

I eat like crap and always hungry, I know how that feel and I can function under those condition as I was like these since I am 14. I can eat bug, grass, mud and I would still survive, that is the different between Normal Soldier and Special Force, you fight super unfit in Special Force, because that can get more out of your mileage.

Definitely, though I've never been part of the special forces, I think its only best for me to clarify that. My time with hunger and sleep deprivation was spent in PMA, the West Point of Pakistan. Its probably one of the most merciless academies out there but they have a solid rationale, they need us to be able to resist an enemy five times our size, we can't do that if we aren't trained to the absolute limits of human endurance.
I once heard John McCain say that the absolute worst torture he had to withstand at the Hanoi Hilton was "The Wall", where captives would be made to stand in absolute silence with their face towards a wall for hours at a time.
They upped the ante on that in PMA and they made us stand about 2.5 feet away from the wall and then come to rest our forehead on it, then for the entirety of the night, there would be no sleep, our entire body weight being supported by our necks. There was not a sound, once every 10 or so minutes, our corporal would flip the page of a book he would be reading and we would know that some time has passed and we are about a hundred or so such page flips away from being relieved. Once in a while, someone would just break, they'd break down, fall to the floor and start crying only to be "splashed" and set right back up.
You've reminded of some days mate. :-D

 

[jhungary]

Definitely, though I've never been part of the special forces, I think its only best for me to clarify that. My time with hunger and sleep deprivation was spent in PMA, the West Point of Pakistan. Its probably one of the most merciless academies out there but they have a solid rationale, they need us to be able to resist an enemy five times our size, we can't do that if we aren't trained to the absolute limits of human endurance.
I once heard John McCain say that the absolute worst torture he had to withstand at the Hanoi Hilton was "The Wall", where captives would be made to stand in absolute silence with their face towards a wall for hours at a time.
They upped the ante on that in PMA and they made us stand about 2.5 feet away from the wall and then come to rest our forehead on it, then for the entirety of the night, there would be no sleep, our entire body weight being supported by our necks. There was not a sound, once every 10 or so minutes, our corporal would flip the page of a book he would be reading and we would know that some time has passed and we are about a hundred or so such page flips away from being relieved. Once in a while, someone would just break, they'd break down, fall to the floor and start crying only to be "splashed" and set right back up.
You've reminded of some days mate. :-D

lol, me neither, I was never Special Force, I went to Ranger School but were never deployed as a Ranger I am not a Green Beret, not even a Tan Beret lol. The only thing I did which were remotely Special Operation Capable is the LRS Platoon I commanded in between, but that's just for 6 months......

For me, I was a ROTC and OCS person, I wanted to get in the Point, but that would require me to go do SAT (I did HKAL, which is something like GCE A Level) So I just enlisted and get my scholarship and went in ROTC instead, problem with ROTC and OCS is that you were taught in the first part by the enlisted, those NCO will take a pot shot at you every which way they can because once you graduated, you outrank them and they cannot mess with you anymore, nothing better to mess with Officer when they still have a chance....

And yes, in most case, they wanted you to last longer, go further and get faster so that you always keep an edge over your enemy. That is usually how you survive behind enemy line. I did not learn how to conduct psychological warfare (Well, let put it this way) until I serve with Military Intelligence. The whole purpose for Psychological Warfare is to break down your enemy will to fight or resist, the only reason why they fight or resist your interrogation is because they still believe in their force, if you can break that, then they won't care about it anymore, and you can get whatever you want from him.

What you describe is a kind of stress test, which used to determine the limit of endurance of a person, how he conduct himself under stress, if you know how well he fare with this, you will know a person's baseline, and you can get directly to the point and use whatever method suitable to try to torn down that man wills....

There are many other ways, I remember someone told me a story (I never experience it) in SF training, the team will sit around camp fire, tired as hell, and then the instructor will pass each one a grenade, pull the pin and have you hold onto it, and then that instructor will start reading and try to bore you to sleep, and when you did, you drop the grenade.....

I don't know if that is true, but it seems like a good way to learn how to stay awake.... lol

And yes, what I said bring me back my old days too

 

[Icarus]

There are many other ways, I remember someone told me a story (I never experience it) in SF training, the team will sit around camp fire, tired as hell, and then the instructor will pass each one a grenade, pull the pin and have you hold onto it, and then that instructor will start reading and try to bore you to sleep, and when you did, you drop the grenade.....

I don't know if that is true, but it seems like a good way to learn how to stay awake.... lol

Holy Shit man, that's pretty hardcore. Can't imagine sitting with squad mates with a live grenade, primed to blow held in my hands.

We had this one exercise where you had to remove the pin and hold it to your chest as you shout your name, number, platoon but that didn't put your entire squad at risk and it took like 40 seconds max before you were cleared to throw.

 

[Levina]

I find it a lil funny when diff forces are pitted against each other. How difficult is it to understand that all these forces specialise in operations related to their field- they are all different. They all fight and train with different doctrines and for different purposes.
I blame the mainstream media for highlighting some training programs. I am sure, be it US marines, 75 th Rangers, Spetsnaz or Marcos, these forces don't reveal their complete training procedures to the media.
Btw as an Indian I know very lil about Marcos trainings. Lol
Few procedures the usual SF guys in India go through are shaving with stones, licking the cobwebs (yuk!) and to deprive one of sleep, guys are made to stand holding the mosquito nets,throughout the night.
Oops i know it is not as funny when experienced.
Albeit I am lil biased towards maritime special forces, for I feel their ops are the most physically demanding ones, since these guys have to first jump out of an aircraft or lock out of a submarine, then swim considerable distances to a hostile shore, and finally get on to the REAL task at hand. Gosh! The guys must be completely (physically) spent by then.

Thanks for the tag @Mugwop
Liked the video.

I swear man, hunger and sleep deprivation will kill you faster than physical pain ever can

Lolz
That's true.
It's a scientifically proven fact that you will die faster of sleep deprivation than of starvation. Death,I reckon, will occur in about 10 days without sleep whilst starvation will take a few weeks.

Once in a while, someone would just break, they'd break down, fall to the floor and start crying only to be "splashed" and set right back up

Now that I have spotted a guy from Pak army, I want to ask you something which I was very curious about all this while.
I have heard that Pashtuns are pretty tough guys, most prolly because of the tough terrain and harsh climate they are accustomed to. But afaik it's the punjabis who make up the majority in your forces. Why so???

they have a solid rationale, they need us to be able to resist an enemy five times our size,

The day you stop considering us as your enemy, will be the day when Pak and India will start progressing forward.
Right now we are stuck on a date -15th Aug 1947.

I can eat bug, grass, mud and I would still survive,

And I just fainted Gary... :/
Being a vegetarian I can not imagine such a life. Btw many of our girls in the forces are vegetarians like me. But they don't have to face such hardships I reckon.

 

[maxpayne]

look pretty usual to me..........

The worse part of any training is not physical training, but psychological.

I remember once I was training in Ranger School? (Forgot if that is ranger school or SERE........) The whole bunch of us have nothing but water for 2 and a half day, extremely tired and extremely hungry, to a point I can and we did eat mud out of nothing. The black hat come by and bring a bunch of food (MRE, Junk food so on) and picked one of us and his job is to eat it infront of us, while the rest of us looked on.

I can endure a lot of pain and exercise and even exhaustion, but these psychological torture is nothing you can prepare, because that's how you, as a person, work.

Once in my training, we had very tough drills for 24 hours without food and water at temp around 40C. At 1900 hours we were taken to dining hall where we saw plates full of food and chill drinks. We were kept standing in front of them for 1 hour. We just stared at the food watching moisture around glasses. After an hour, when were were told to start, no1 did (for atleast 2min )

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Once in my training, we had very tough drills for 24 hours without food and water at temp around 40C. At 1900 hours we were taken to dining hall where we saw plates full of food and chill drinks. We were kept standing in front of them for 1 hour. We just stared at the food watching moisture around glasses. After an hour, when were were told to start, no1 did (for atleast 2min )

Maa Sadke!

 

[Icarus]

I have heard that Pashtuns are pretty tough guys, most prolly because of the tough terrain and harsh climate they are accustomed to. But afaik it's the punjabis who make up the majority in your forces. Why so???

The very same reason that Punjabis and Sikhs make up a sizable portion of the Indian Armed Forces as well. There is a martial culture in the Punjab that encourages people to join the military. They make good soldiers. They're also a numerical majority.

The day you stop considering us as your enemy, will be the day when Pak and India will start progressing forward.

I have nothing personal against India, I am a professional and this is my job. If the government of Pakistan says that India is our best friend, I'll drop my weapon and give the nearest Indian a hug, invite him for tea.

 

[Levina]

I have nothing personal against India, I am a professional and this is my job. If the government of Pakistan says that India is our best friend, I'll drop my weapon and give the nearest Indian a hug, invite him for tea.

"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him,but because he loves what is behind him."